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Democrats are against the criminalization of homeless people
Apr 3, 2024 11:51:30   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4572076-democrats-argue-against-criminalization-of-unhoused-people-in-supreme-court-brief/

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Apr 3, 2024 12:55:21   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4572076-democrats-argue-against-criminalization-of-unhoused-people-in-supreme-court-brief/


I agree that being poor or homeless should not be a crime. But their actions most certainly COULD be criminal, and they should be held accountable for them. Being poor and/or homeless does not provide an excuse for harassing or committing crimes against others, as the Democrats want established into law.

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Apr 3, 2024 13:42:12   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I agree that being poor or homeless should not be a crime. But their actions most certainly COULD be criminal, and they should be held accountable for them. Being poor and/or homeless does not provide an excuse for harassing or committing crimes against others, as the Democrats want established into law.


I do not know of any Democrats who wish to legalize squatting in unoccupied homes and property . That is blatantly a crime . So is stealing shopping carts and indecent exposure . . Democrats do support rehabilitation housing with supervision and guidelines . Democrats support missions and homeless shelters . Republicans h**e that (Not in my neighborhood ) .Just my observations .

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Apr 3, 2024 14:48:49   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I do not know of any Democrats who wish to legalize squatting in unoccupied homes and property . That is blatantly a crime . So is stealing shopping carts and indecent exposure . . Democrats do support rehabilitation housing with supervision and guidelines . Democrats support missions and homeless shelters . Republicans h**e that (Not in my neighborhood ) .Just my observations .


Yes, they do. As long as it is Other People's Money. With much respect Tom, it has been MY observation that Republicans like and encourage individual and group VOLUNTARY donations to good causes. In my small town, county, and throughout Texas, the HUGE majority of charitable donations come from conservatives, and many Republicans. The donations from Democrats are few and sparse. The Democrats spend their efforts trying to pass laws taxing the more well off members of society so that the DEMOCRATS can control where ALL the money is spent.
The same policy that President Biden and the Democrat leadership espouses. Currently Biden's administration is spending a trillion dollars every three months, most of it on interest and solutions to problems they created.
Tom, we really REALLY do not want more of that.
Homelessness? I******s overrunning available resources? Too many jobs that can not support a family? Inflation? Sky-rocketing debt?
These are all problems DIRECTLY caused by President-by-committee Biden within the last three and a half years.

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Apr 3, 2024 15:14:12   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Yes, they do. As long as it is Other People's Money. With much respect Tom, it has been MY observation that Republicans like and encourage individual and group VOLUNTARY donations to good causes. In my small town, county, and throughout Texas, the HUGE majority of charitable donations come from conservatives, and many Republicans. The donations from Democrats are few and sparse. The Democrats spend their efforts trying to pass laws taxing the more well off members of society so that the DEMOCRATS can control where ALL the money is spent.
The same policy that President Biden and the Democrat leadership espouses. Currently Biden's administration is spending a trillion dollars every three months, most of it on interest and solutions to problems they created.
Tom, we really REALLY do not want more of that.
Homelessness? I******s overrunning available resources? Too many jobs that can not support a family? Inflation? Sky-rocketing debt?
These are all problems DIRECTLY caused by President-by-committee Biden within the last three and a half years.
Yes, they do. As long as it is Other People's Mon... (show quote)
Have it your way Any efforts to end the homelessness are welcome and needed . It is not about who does it better it is about who does it .

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Apr 3, 2024 17:38:01   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Have it your way Any efforts to end the homelessness are welcome and needed . It is not about who does it better it is about who does it .


I would think it is about getting it DONE. I don't believe the Democrat leadership cares. So many of their programs are designed to fail, and they don't care THEN. IMHO, to them such efforts are for show with no intention of succeeding. Just another means to the end of gaining more power and control. I'm sorry my friend, but I can give examples going back to the 70's supporting that opinion. We just see different events and their application very differently.

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Apr 3, 2024 17:52:23   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I would think it is about getting it DONE. I don't believe the Democrat leadership cares. So many of their programs are designed to fail, and they don't care THEN. IMHO, to them such efforts are for show with no intention of succeeding. Just another means to the end of gaining more power and control. I'm sorry my friend, but I can give examples going back to the 70's supporting that opinion. We just see different events and their application very differently.

Well I live in a more or less rural area -not effected by societys ills on the scale you have seen it . Thank God I'm a country boy .

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Apr 3, 2024 22:37:08   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Well I live in a more or less rural area -not effected by societys ills on the scale you have seen it . Thank God I'm a country boy .



I have always lived in a few smallish towns in South Texas, so while not exactly a country boy, I have rubbed shoulders with some mighty fine ones. My education in big city politics came from almost thirty years in a union. I finally had my face rubbed in the fact that they were not only lying to the members, but openly shilling for the Democrat party. When I went to Dallas and confronted the President of our Local, and the President of CWA, visiting from Washington, about the things they were saying about Republicans and their goals in the 1996 e******n cycle, they admitted that there were some definite falsehoods being told plus invalid exaggerations, but they said, and I kid you not, "the end in politics justifies the means." And "what we are doing is ethical and moral because the members Just Don't Understand Politics, so we need to manipulate them into Doing The Right Thing."
Tom this is LITERALLY what they said to me, just before trying to coax me into 'playing ball'.
I did not leave the union, but I stopped any and all political contributions, and refused to support in any way, my members donating to support Democrats.
Do I think those honchos in CWA in Texas would resort to v***r f***d to elect and re-elect Biden? Hell YEAH! Not a doubt in my mind. The same for almost any other union established in Texas.

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Apr 4, 2024 18:24:51   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I agree that being poor or homeless should not be a crime. But their actions most certainly COULD be criminal, and they should be held accountable for them. Being poor and/or homeless does not provide an excuse for harassing or committing crimes against others, as the Democrats want established into law.


I Agree Randy being homeless should not be a crime. However if crimes are committed while homeless the guilty should absolutely be prosecuted, tried and punished under law.

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Apr 4, 2024 18:29:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I Agree Randy being homeless should not be a crime. However if crimes are committed while homeless the guilty should absolutely be prosecuted, tried and punished under law.



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