Now, oldroy, I haven't started calling you names, so just hold your horses and we can debate, but if you can't control yourself better, I will have to stop posting to you. Please don't think that you will hurt my feelings if you stop saying anything to me.What I can't understand is why you are such an Israel-firster. What causes you to h**e the Palestinians so much that you get so upset about criticism of the Israeli N**is? Who is calling who names? You call me an Israel-firster and then go out and call them Israeli N**is.

The Jewish kingdoms were only one of many periods in ancient Palestine
“The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Z*****ts base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David’s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.”

Tell me what you mean by crying Pelosi while I am doing your research on "my" numbers for you.

Here you go, it is really simple to find out things. Maybe that's why I am more knowledgeable than you.

The Impact of the Conflict
on Children
129 Israeli children and 1,519 Palestinian children
have been k**led since September 29, 2000.

Hover over each bar for exact numbers.

“The majority of these [Palestinian] children were k**led and injured while going about normal daily activities, such as going to school, playing, shopping, or simply being in their homes. Sixty-four percent of children k**led during the first six months of 2003 died as a result of Israeli air and ground attacks, or from indiscriminate fire from Israeli soldiers.”

More:
According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies "The fundamentals of Israel’s nuclear capabilities and policies, though never officially confirmed, are accepted as fact throughout the world.
Israel initiated a nuclear programme in the mid 1950s and crossed the weapons threshold about a decade later.
Today, remaining outside the NPT, Israel is considered to be a de facto nuclear weapons state with an advanced and sizeable arsenal."

Estimates vary,but Israel is estimated to possess anywhere between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads of varying yields,with 100 to 200 being cited most frequently in my experience.

Israel also has well-developed undeclared offensive chemical and biological capabilities.

I have to wonder how many camel jockey Arabs lived in Palestine before outsiders came in and tried to establish what is there now. Arabs really weren't involved in the people of Palestine in the period you want to talk about.

Okay, I'll do your research again on that subject, but it's high time you learned to do your own, old sport:

Here we go:
Palestinian refugees leaving the Galilee in October–November 1948The 1948 Palestinian exodus, known in Arabic as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة‎, an-Nakbah, lit. "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"),[1] occurred when approximately 711,000 to 725,000 Palestinian Arabs left, fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.[2]
As of 1948 the population was approximately 30% Jewish,20% Christian and 50% Muslim. Most of the Christians were Palestinians,principally Eastern Orthodox. They have largely left - driven out would be a more realistic term - although churches and clergy continue to operate unmolested to extremely small congregations. The Jewish population before 1919 was about 6%,almost entirely in Jerusalem,with the exception of a few early Z*****t enclaves. Currently every effort is being made to drive out the remaining Muslims. Christian and Muslim immigration to Palestine is forbidden under "Israeli" law. Many personal accounts of their years in Palestine by American clergy from the turn of the century through the early 1950's are available in any large library; they present a very different picture of Palestine than the Desolate Wasteland of Z*****t lore. Haifa was a thriving seaport. The Galilee was under full cultivation and was predominately Christian. Nablus and Hebron were thriving mercantile communities. Native Jews were extremely hostile to Z*****ts since they were invariably atheists with nothing but contempt for Judaism. The Gaza was considered a large garden,producing oranges,figs and vegetables in great abundance. Today so much water has been drained from it's natural supply to irrigate the Negev that wells have been penetrated by seawater. Jaffa,which no longer exists,was considered the producer of the finest oranges on earth; they were exported to gourmet suppliers in Europe. So was Palestinian soap and olive oil produced in Hebron.



One more time let me ask you how long it has been since your graduation from the last progressive controlled school you attended. When was it?

I will have to ask you for some kind of link to your info since you may have made the whole thing up.

You proved that nobody can really prove that Israel has nuclear weapons but so many are sure they do. Is that the reason the Egyptians were so easy in the Six Day War in 1967? I think the Egyptians just got their butts whipped by inferior weapons. In case you don't know they were fighting with the best the Soviets had and the Israelis were using US leftovers from WW II. The Sherman tank wasn't much in WW II and the Soviets ended that one with the best tanks, even better than the German Tiger tanks.

I don't think the Palestinians can do a lot by themselves and I really believed the professor who had lived among Arabs for over 15 years working for some horrible British oil companies when she told me that the Muslims of the world could never defeat anybody because they follow that old rule of tell the commander wh**ever will placate him. That would be like the Egyptian tank commander who promised that they were destroying the Israeli column when, in fact, the Egyptians had deserted their tanks and were running as fast as they could for the canal.

Please try to get me some links since I don't actually believe you at all.

oldroy, you ignorant s**t (and I wouldn't resort to name-calling if you hadn't started it), you requested the information, and now you denigrate it by saying it isn't true. It isn't my fault if you are so set in your mind-conditioned way that you have a one-track mind on this particular subject. Take a break from your constant posting in here and deign to do some research on your own. Also, show me why the data I gave isn't true if you can. It is excruciatingly difficult to discuss anything with someone who is so adamantly dogmatic as you are and not lose interest in the matter.