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Apr 2, 2024 08:54:46   #
WEBCO
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Ok It's a mental Illness that is a condition suffered by many Americans with all manner of diagnoses. If the Man who is an adult wants to become the opposite g****r that is his/her business. (S*x c****es have been around for over 50yrs I think) A Lifetime of therapy is no guarantee to change how that person thinks of themself. It could lead this person to suicide if forced to be miserable. I guess you think they should be comitted to an assylym for life and removed from society. I only hope if any more think that t***s should be removed from society I cringe to think who will be next to be removed from society....Not A Very Christian ideal.
Ok It's a mental Illness that is a condition suff... (show quote)


Then why are you suggesting that "they be removed from society"?

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Apr 2, 2024 08:55:36   #
WEBCO
 
Knightlady wrote:
I, personally, have no time to worry about someomes sexual identity, over the age of 21. You have to be 21 to buy a beer.
Just leave the Kids out of it


Thank you...for the sanity

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Apr 2, 2024 09:16:14   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
Knightlady wrote:
I, personally, have no time to worry about someomes sexual identity, over the age of 21. You have to be 21 to buy a beer.
Just leave the Kids out of it


I Totally agree Knightlady. I will however say that one of my husbands grandsons who is 15 and has thought about t***sitioning with his mother's approval +support. He has agreed to continue therapy until he is at least 18 before making his final decison to proceed. (I will add that he is otherwisw a normal 15yo straight "A" student who wants to become a psychiatrist).

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Apr 2, 2024 09:22:25   #
EmilyD
 
Rose42 wrote:
I believe we choose - free will to do so - but I’m not going to argue that point

I am with you on this. We are given the free will to choose how we live our lives.

Like a good parent, God shows us clearly what He expects from us: right from wrong, good from evil….many ways with many examples. But He leaves the decision of whether we follow His laws (and therefore Him) up to us.

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Apr 2, 2024 09:28:08   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
Rose42 wrote:
This is where you people go wrong. They shouldn’t be driven from society they should be helped - especially those who were abused by their parents as children and pushed into it.


I am not suggesting that Rose. I was asking who might think that way since many see it as a mental illness.

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Apr 2, 2024 09:30:07   #
EmilyD
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Ok It's a mental Illness that is a condition suffered by many Americans with all manner of diagnoses. If the Man who is an adult wants to become the opposite g****r that is his/her business. (S*x c****es have been around for over 50yrs I think) A Lifetime of therapy is no guarantee to change how that person thinks of themself. It could lead this person to suicide if forced to be miserable. I guess you think they should be comitted to an assylym for life and removed from society. I only hope if any more think that t***s should be removed from society I cringe to think who will be next to be removed from society....Not A Very Christian ideal.
Ok It's a mental Illness that is a condition suff... (show quote)

Supporting the rejection of one’s God-given g****r is not a Christian ideal either.

There is a reason why God is adamant about showing us how we can be tempted by Satan.

And He is very clear about what to do if we are tempted!

That’s why we say “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil” When we pray the Lords Prayer.

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Apr 2, 2024 09:34:26   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
EmilyD wrote:
Supporting the rejection of one’s God-given g****r is not a Christian ideal either.

There is a reason why God is adamant about showing us how we can be tempted by Satan.

And He is very clear about what to do if we are tempted!

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You are right Emily but many especially the young are tempted to do what they think is right and that decision they often have is right in their minds and heart.

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Apr 2, 2024 09:49:16   #
EmilyD
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
You are right Emily but many especially the young are tempted to do what they think is right and that decision they often have is right in their minds and heart.

They have weak guidance. And the voice of evil is strong.

You say they become suicidal if they do not take action with the temptation that goes against God.

I believe many of them commit suicide after they go with the temptation, and then realize it was a bad mistake. The sad part is at that point they can’t fix their bodies if they have surgically changed them. However, they may be able to ease their anguished minds if they learn that the love of God and all it represents for them is far more important - and beautiful - than the ugliness that Satan has to offer.

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Apr 2, 2024 10:02:11   #
son of witless
 
Bruce123 wrote:
You have willingly chosen to defy Gods plan for mankind. You are a reprobate at worst or completely deceived at best.
People in t***sition are also defying Gods Plan. They are choosing their will and their desires over Gods plan .
Only the Word of God is to be obeyed .
It’s like pulling teeth to get answers from you. Your theology seems to be based in man’s wisdom and will lead to despair and death.
Many men throughout history have overcome terrible circumstances to remain faithful to God and His Word.
It’s painfully obvious that the majority of t***ssexuals want to fulfill their own desires no matter the cost.
Given the authority even now our elected leaders are supporting the t***sition of children.
Their ultimate goal is a society steeped in complete darkness and depravity.
You are just a footnote in Satans plan to destroy what God has created .
You have already lost the battle before it started.
Jesus death on the cross destroyed once and for all any plans satan has for mankind.
Jesus is calling you to repentance for your sins just like me and everyone else.
You would do well to accept this rebuke and repent.
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He does not answer your questions directly. There is always a deflection, a twist in the answer.

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Apr 2, 2024 10:02:51   #
Rose42
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
I am not suggesting that Rose. I was asking who might think that way since many see it as a mental illness.


They are still human beings though some treat them as subhuman. That is wrong. They sure won’t be helped by people treating them like pariahs

I do see it as mental illness and don’t see how it could be considered otherwise.

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Apr 2, 2024 11:27:10   #
WEBCO
 
TJKMO wrote:
I espouse LOVE.
What do you espouse?


T***h

What is currently being done to young children, mostly girls, is the biggest case of medical malpractice in human history. It is worse than what we did to the Tuskegee soldiers, it is worse than lobotomizing the mentally disturbed, and it's even worse than unit 731 of the Japanese army or Dr. Josef Mengele. This ideology you believe in is permanently destroying children's lives. It is morally reprehensible and many people, Dr.s included, will go to prison for what they've done to these innocent children.

You are confusing empathy and compassion with enabling. You are cheering on, normalizing, and affirming someone's mental illness. You are only harming these children, wh**ever else you think you are doing, ie helping them, you most certainly are not. I emplore you to please listen to sane adults and stop hurting children.

Do you give drug addicts drugs and cheer on drunk alcholics, too? Because that is exactly what you are doing to these confused children. What you are doing is not brave, it is cowardice and inexcusable.

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Apr 2, 2024 11:29:22   #
WEBCO
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
I am not suggesting that Rose. I was asking who might think that way since many see it as a mental illness.


It IS a mental illness/disorder

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Apr 2, 2024 11:29:44   #
Bruce123
 
WEBCO wrote:
T***h

What is currently being done to young children, mostly girls, is the biggest case of medical malpractice in human history. It is worse than what we did to the Tuskegee soldiers, it is worse than lobotomizing the mentally disturbed, and it's even worse than unit 731 of the Japanese army or Dr. Josef Mengele. This ideology you believe in is permanently destroying children's lives. It is morally reprehensible and many people, Dr.s included, will go to prison for what they've done to these innocent children.

You are confusing empathy and compassion with enabling. You are cheering on, normalizing, and affirming someone's mental illness. You are only harming these children, wh**ever else you think you are doing, ie helping them, you most certainly are not. I emplore you to please listen to sane adults and stop hurting children.

Do you give drug addicts drugs and cheer on drunk alcholics, too? Because that is exactly what you are doing to these confused children. What you are doing is not brave, it is cowardice and inexcusable.
T***h br br What is currently being done to young... (show quote)



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Apr 2, 2024 11:30:31   #
WEBCO
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
You are right Emily but many especially the young are tempted to do what they think is right and that decision they often have is right in their minds and heart.


That is why parents must protect their children from this despicable new ideology.

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Apr 2, 2024 11:31:49   #
WEBCO
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
I Totally agree Knightlady. I will however say that one of my husbands grandsons who is 15 and has thought about t***sitioning with his mother's approval +support. He has agreed to continue therapy until he is at least 18 before making his final decison to proceed. (I will add that he is otherwisw a normal 15yo straight "A" student who wants to become a psychiatrist).


It's OK, he is probably just gay. 70% of "t*********r" males realize that they are simply homosexual

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