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Mar 30, 2024 23:57:03   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Hey, Tom, Reba's damn good


But outspoken and fiesty

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Mar 31, 2024 09:21:06   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


**Another thing: The "Old days", there were "good Democrats"! Remember? The Democrats, "did not waste time"

*hating a ghost, *chasing their tails endlessly, & those "Old", Democrats, actually fought for the 'People", & did

very good things! [ Every Day] **** [lament for the "past", for it is dead]

Today?...those democrats, are just a memory! *Demo'rats, of today, are vermin, to be despised!

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Mar 31, 2024 15:53:42   #
pegw
 
archie bunker wrote:
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that, I'm not sure of the point of this post.
I think my generation had it better myself. We stayed outside, and, anyone in the neighborhood could beat the everything s**t out of you if you screwed up.
If you tripped running to second base, and skinned your knee, get up, rub some dirt on it, and get back in the game.
Myself, and the other kids in the neighborhood had no clue about desegregation until it happened. Then, those black kids were belligerent about being bussed in. Fisticuffs with them was an every day occurrence. Not because of us, but because they were bitter, h**eful, and violent.
Q***rs were where they belong.
In the closet, as they say.
My home wasn't a happy one, so I bailed at 17. Never went back. I've made my way ever since.
Now......I'm a codger, a misanthrope, and don't have any s**ts left to give.
Wait till I become a geezer like you!!
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that,... (show quote)


I remember being in kindergarten and seeing r****t white people attacking a kindergartener in Alabama. It probably affected how I thought about race my entire life. The men attacking the poor little girl scared me, and I perceived them as a threat to my little blond me. It took my father to explain to me that I would not be a target when I went to school. I see everyone who believes in MAGA as a threat. America was not great for everyone in the 50's.

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Mar 31, 2024 17:09:30   #
pegw
 
Rose42 wrote:
I remember the good old days when it wasn’t made so easy for sexual predators to go after children, when kids were allowed to be kids rather than being pushed into g****r dysphoria, when kids didn’t have such easy access to pornographic material, when children’s movies were clean, when family was more important, when there was less of a sense of victimhood and entitlement, when people didn’t go nuts over politics…I can think of many more

None of that is fantasy - it was real


You are looking at the past through rose colored glasses. I remember my mother having to go to work to make ends meet. She was not treated respectfully at work all the time. There were abused children that nobody talked about.

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Mar 31, 2024 17:17:07   #
WEBCO
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


I still don't lock my house, or car. I never had a key to the house I grew up in.

It's not a fantasy.

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Mar 31, 2024 17:55:16   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
pegw wrote:
I remember being in kindergarten and seeing r****t white people attacking a kindergartener in Alabama. It probably affected how I thought about race my entire life. The men attacking the poor little girl scared me, and I perceived them as a threat to my little blond me. It took my father to explain to me that I would not be a target when I went to school. I see everyone who believes in MAGA as a threat. America was not great for everyone in the 50's.


I grew up with-- colored fountains -colored rooms -The green River ordinance and sundown towns . I don't think anybody today wants to go back to that time .

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Mar 31, 2024 17:58:58   #
Rose42
 
pegw wrote:
You are looking at the past through rose colored glasses. I remember my mother having to go to work to make ends meet. She was not treated respectfully at work all the time. There were abused children that nobody talked about.


No I’m not. There have always been abused children but p********a is slowly being normalized as is the sexualization of children in numerous ways. Open your eyes

Not being respected at work also happened to both sexes

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Mar 31, 2024 21:13:49   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


Good point slatten

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Mar 31, 2024 22:49:09   #
F.D.R.
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


YES, I WOULD. Your last paragraph describes the life I knew coming of age in Bayonne, N.J. in the 50's. There were no race issues as I had good friends of every description including interracial couples, the immigrants I saw were mostly old women who scrubbed the sidewalks outside their homes and old men like my grandfathers who worked in the factories, most of the women like my mom, aunts and neighbors felt it was their place to be home to raise the kids and take care of the house. Neighbors looked after neighbors, we kids couldn't get away with much because virtually every adult in the neighborhood watched out for you and reported wrong doing to your mom. There was one gay man in our neighborhood but he never bothered anyone and no one bothered him. It was the height of the Cold War and we had an anti-aircraft battery set up in our county park and there were air raid drills, in school we were told to duck under the desk when an A bomb exploded. And last but not least I don't recall anything about non-Christians spreading anything because to us there was only Christians and Jews and we got along just fine. So maybe I was just fortunate but the 50's were fantastic.

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Apr 1, 2024 18:12:04   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
pegw wrote:
I remember being in kindergarten and seeing r****t white people attacking a kindergartener in Alabama. It probably affected how I thought about race my entire life. The men attacking the poor little girl scared me, and I perceived them as a threat to my little blond me. It took my father to explain to me that I would not be a target when I went to school. I see everyone who believes in MAGA as a threat. America was not great for everyone in the 50's.


1. MAGA, IS ONLY A THREAT TO THE CRIMINAL MIND, & DEMO'RAT BABY K**LERS!

2. R****M IN THE LATE 1800'S...[ *YOUR REFERENCE OF *YOUR YOUTH]....IT JusT AIN'T THE SAME ANYMORE, SINCE REPUBLICANS, INSISTED oN TREATING THEM LIKE HUMAN BEINGS! [ Look up that t***h]

3. Rememeber, you are not a "kid anymore", so grow up! Be a part of our "be kind" movement!

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