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Jan 21, 2015 01:29:32   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in rhetoric? I noticed he had a different persona in the SOTU speech. I didn't notice any indication that he is going to rethink any policy change. Rather, he made a case that his policy is the one to continue. It seems like he is going to veto anything sent to him with a position that it doesn't go far enough or that it goes back to a policy that he says doesn't work.

I picked up that any Keystone pipeline bill will be vetoed on the grounds that it does not go far enough. No matter what is in it, he will probably argue that it doesn't do enough to be worthwhile.

Any obamacare bill will be vetoed with him claiming that it doesn't save this or save that or that it will make matters worse.

Tax bills will be met similarly, making the condition that it isn't paid for unless taxes are raised on the rich because the deficit is on track or the budget will get messed up, affecting the improving employment figures.

There were words about Iran sanctions as being non-negotiable and quite a slap about his position on Russia being a victory to those who had admired Putin.

I think there will be more division and nothing will get done in a bipartisan approach. He certainly didn't come across as being ready to endorse any conservative idea.

Unless there's a rise in gas prices or threat of another recession, it will be tough to make the case against him.

He wants to supplement the stagnant middle income wage growth with tax breaks and sick leave along with a low income minimum wage raise. If the conservatives don't buy-in, I don't see much incentive for him to compromise and there may actually be an incentive for him to d**g his feet, blaming them for inaction.

It's somewhat ironic that conservatives have the Congress but are even more powerless to do anything as long as the economic and employment numbers rise.

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Jan 21, 2015 01:37:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
"Bolder" isn't the word for how he will go forward. The RINOs are kissing his ass, only a courageous few are standing up against him. Obama has Carte Blanche now, and he's out to kick America's ass.

I found this on another forum:

Quote:
Funded and supported with personnel, materiel, and weapons from Iran, Al Queda / ISIS has taken over Yemen and its government. Iraq is about to fall to this Iranian backed campaign, Al Queda / ISIS is growing forces in Afghanistan and cells have infiltrated into Israel. All over the ME, ISIS is growing, and all this escalation of Islamic Jihad can be traced directly to the Islamic Regime of Iran, the very same regime that Obama, through negotiations and lifting of sanctions, is trying to befriend.

Obama has authorized espionage of governments and leaders of our allies (?), such as Germany, France, Britain, and Israel. NSA, for instance, has hacked into Angela Merkel's computers. He has, with open invitation and financial support, opened our borders to any and all comers, and done so without a single safeguard in place. His concept of the "fundamental t***sformation of America" far exceeds simply turning us into a socialist country. He truly does h**e America, a hatred so diabolical that I believe he envisions us as an Islamic state. He will be coming for our guns in earnest surely within the next two years.

Jesus told us, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat . . . ."

That's where we are going if Obama isn't stopped, and soon.
Funded and supported with personnel, materiel, and... (show quote)

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Jan 21, 2015 01:37:57   #
W8_4_It
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in rhetoric? I noticed he had a different persona in the SOTU speech. I didn't notice any indication that he is going to rethink any policy change. Rather, he made a case that his policy is the one to continue. It seems like he is going to veto anything sent to him with a position that it doesn't go far enough or that it goes back to a policy that he says doesn't work.

I picked up that any Keystone pipeline bill will be vetoed on the grounds that it does not go far enough. No matter what is in it, he will probably argue that it doesn't do enough to be worthwhile.

Any obamacare bill will be vetoed with him claiming that it doesn't save this or save that or that it will make matters worse.

Tax bills will be met similarly, making the condition that it isn't paid for unless taxes are raised on the rich because the deficit is on track or the budget will get messed up, affecting the improving employment figures.

There were words about Iran sanctions as being non-negotiable and quite a slap about his position on Russia being a victory to those who had admired Putin.

I think there will be more division and nothing will get done in a bipartisan approach. He certainly didn't come across as being ready to endorse any conservative idea.

Unless there's a rise in gas prices or threat of another recession, it will be tough to make the case against him.

He wants to supplement the stagnant middle income wage growth with tax breaks and sick leave along with a low income minimum wage raise. If the conservatives don't buy-in, I don't see much incentive for him to compromise and there may actually be an incentive for him to d**g his feet, blaming them for inaction.

It's somewhat ironic that conservatives have the Congress but are even more powerless to do anything as long as the economic and employment numbers rise.
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in... (show quote)


Congress gave away any bargaining position they had when they passed the Cromnibus.

But RINO's always find a way to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"

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Jan 21, 2015 07:59:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
W8_4_It wrote:
Congress gave away any bargaining position they had when they passed the Cromnibus.

But RINO's always find a way to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"


People do not realize that the consequences of economic policies do not manifest overnight, or in a month or even a year. The US economy is a ponderous thing. Some policies take years to make their effects felt. The current temporary improvement has little to do with anything Obama has done, but in classic Obama fashion, he takes credit for anything that is positive, and denies responsibility for everything else. The next time he owns up to a mistake will be the first.

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Jan 21, 2015 08:07:48   #
Liberty Tree
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in rhetoric? I noticed he had a different persona in the SOTU speech. I didn't notice any indication that he is going to rethink any policy change. Rather, he made a case that his policy is the one to continue. It seems like he is going to veto anything sent to him with a position that it doesn't go far enough or that it goes back to a policy that he says doesn't work.

I picked up that any Keystone pipeline bill will be vetoed on the grounds that it does not go far enough. No matter what is in it, he will probably argue that it doesn't do enough to be worthwhile.

Any obamacare bill will be vetoed with him claiming that it doesn't save this or save that or that it will make matters worse.

Tax bills will be met similarly, making the condition that it isn't paid for unless taxes are raised on the rich because the deficit is on track or the budget will get messed up, affecting the improving employment figures.

There were words about Iran sanctions as being non-negotiable and quite a slap about his position on Russia being a victory to those who had admired Putin.

I think there will be more division and nothing will get done in a bipartisan approach. He certainly didn't come across as being ready to endorse any conservative idea.

Unless there's a rise in gas prices or threat of another recession, it will be tough to make the case against him.

He wants to supplement the stagnant middle income wage growth with tax breaks and sick leave along with a low income minimum wage raise. If the conservatives don't buy-in, I don't see much incentive for him to compromise and there may actually be an incentive for him to d**g his feet, blaming them for inaction.

It's somewhat ironic that conservatives have the Congress but are even more powerless to do anything as long as the economic and employment numbers rise.
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in... (show quote)


He still thinks he was annointed as king and not elected as President. He believes he is above Congress and not just a co-equal branch of government.

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Jan 21, 2015 08:31:45   #
WhatIt'sWorth Loc: Methane Sea, Jupiter
 
Right after the mid-terms, when Republicans took the senate and more seats in the house - Obama said "I hear you - I get the message", in speaking "to the people" about what they had just v**ed.

It is clear that he has totally reversed himself from any such sentiment now.

It is just "I will veto - I will veto"

The SOTU address -- I felt he must have been talking about SOME OTHER COUNTRY.

"We're doing so great - we'll continue to be tough on terrorists"

We are NOT doing great - and terrorists are having a field day; while Obama continues to avoid ever using the phrase "Islamic Terrorist"

"Less dependent on foreign oil than in a million years, blah blah blah"

uh

are we tapping into Strategic Petroleum Reserve?

once it's gone -- it's gone, ya know

good grief

what WORLD are all these people in who gave him standing ovation after standing ovation?

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Jan 21, 2015 08:38:33   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in rhetoric? I noticed he had a different persona in the SOTU speech. I didn't notice any indication that he is going to rethink any policy change. Rather, he made a case that his policy is the one to continue. It seems like he is going to veto anything sent to him with a position that it doesn't go far enough or that it goes back to a policy that he says doesn't work.

I picked up that any Keystone pipeline bill will be vetoed on the grounds that it does not go far enough. No matter what is in it, he will probably argue that it doesn't do enough to be worthwhile.

Any obamacare bill will be vetoed with him claiming that it doesn't save this or save that or that it will make matters worse.

Tax bills will be met similarly, making the condition that it isn't paid for unless taxes are raised on the rich because the deficit is on track or the budget will get messed up, affecting the improving employment figures.

There were words about Iran sanctions as being non-negotiable and quite a slap about his position on Russia being a victory to those who had admired Putin.

I think there will be more division and nothing will get done in a bipartisan approach. He certainly didn't come across as being ready to endorse any conservative idea.

Unless there's a rise in gas prices or threat of another recession, it will be tough to make the case against him.

He wants to supplement the stagnant middle income wage growth with tax breaks and sick leave along with a low income minimum wage raise. If the conservatives don't buy-in, I don't see much incentive for him to compromise and there may actually be an incentive for him to d**g his feet, blaming them for inaction.

It's somewhat ironic that conservatives have the Congress but are even more powerless to do anything as long as the economic and employment numbers rise.
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in... (show quote)


Biggest bunch of blatant lies yet...this man is incapble of telling the t***h about anything. If you believed any of that B.S. last night, you're a fool, pal.

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Jan 21, 2015 08:46:38   #
W8_4_It
 
JMHO wrote:
Biggest bunch of blatant lies yet...this man is incapble of telling the t***h about anything. If you believed any of that B.S. last night, you're a fool, pal.


Please tell me you didn't waste time watching that.

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Jan 21, 2015 08:48:20   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
W8_4_It wrote:
Please tell me you didn't waste time watching that.


It was good comedy!

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Jan 21, 2015 10:36:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
JMHO wrote:
It was good comedy!
I can't imagine finding anything entertaining or funny about listening to a constant string of lies, the consequences of which are unimaginable.

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Jan 21, 2015 11:18:33   #
WhatIt'sWorth Loc: Methane Sea, Jupiter
 
It wasn't funny - I agree with Blade_Runner

it was worth watching to REALIZE to what extent this c****e and his followers ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEIR OWN LIES

but yeah - cry - don't laugh

TWO HOURS of "glittering generalities" of how Obama has HUNG THE MOON and we all should be so grateful

I'm vomiting. But it was a wake-up call to watch/listen to all this tripe.

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Jan 21, 2015 12:01:51   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
WhatIt'sWorth wrote:
It wasn't funny - I agree with Blade_Runner

it was worth watching to REALIZE to what extent this c****e and his followers ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEIR OWN LIES

but yeah - cry - don't laugh

TWO HOURS of "glittering generalities" of how Obama has HUNG THE MOON and we all should be so grateful

I'm vomiting. But it was a wake-up call to watch/listen to all this tripe.


Do you ACTUALLY believe that the Prevaricator-in-Chief believes the crap he spouts? The adoring i***ts who idolize him certainly do, but he doesn't. He is just an astonishingly accomplished liar.

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Jan 21, 2015 14:59:19   #
WhatIt'sWorth Loc: Methane Sea, Jupiter
 
I dunno Loki - sometimes I think he really believes the delusions he perpetrates

I admit he is an astonishingly accomplished liar, but somehow he is capable of "eating his own s**t" at the same time...

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Jan 21, 2015 15:54:28   #
Liberty Tree
 
WhatIt'sWorth wrote:
Right after the mid-terms, when Republicans took the senate and more seats in the house - Obama said "I hear you - I get the message", in speaking "to the people" about what they had just v**ed.

It is clear that he has totally reversed himself from any such sentiment now.

It is just "I will veto - I will veto"

The SOTU address -- I felt he must have been talking about SOME OTHER COUNTRY.

"We're doing so great - we'll continue to be tough on terrorists"

We are NOT doing great - and terrorists are having a field day; while Obama continues to avoid ever using the phrase "Islamic Terrorist"

"Less dependent on foreign oil than in a million years, blah blah blah"

uh

are we tapping into Strategic Petroleum Reserve?

once it's gone -- it's gone, ya know

good grief

what WORLD are all these people in who gave him standing ovation after standing ovation?
Right after the mid-terms, when Republicans took t... (show quote)


He threatens to veto bills before they are even passed, even those that have bipartisan support people are always calling for. He then demands that Congress pass any proposal he puts forth. He has no intention of compromise and if Congress does not pass the bills he wants he will do it anyway.

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Jan 22, 2015 07:37:20   #
Ricktloml
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in rhetoric? I noticed he had a different persona in the SOTU speech. I didn't notice any indication that he is going to rethink any policy change. Rather, he made a case that his policy is the one to continue. It seems like he is going to veto anything sent to him with a position that it doesn't go far enough or that it goes back to a policy that he says doesn't work.

I picked up that any Keystone pipeline bill will be vetoed on the grounds that it does not go far enough. No matter what is in it, he will probably argue that it doesn't do enough to be worthwhile.

Any obamacare bill will be vetoed with him claiming that it doesn't save this or save that or that it will make matters worse.

Tax bills will be met similarly, making the condition that it isn't paid for unless taxes are raised on the rich because the deficit is on track or the budget will get messed up, affecting the improving employment figures.

There were words about Iran sanctions as being non-negotiable and quite a slap about his position on Russia being a victory to those who had admired Putin.

I think there will be more division and nothing will get done in a bipartisan approach. He certainly didn't come across as being ready to endorse any conservative idea.

Unless there's a rise in gas prices or threat of another recession, it will be tough to make the case against him.

He wants to supplement the stagnant middle income wage growth with tax breaks and sick leave along with a low income minimum wage raise. If the conservatives don't buy-in, I don't see much incentive for him to compromise and there may actually be an incentive for him to d**g his feet, blaming them for inaction.

It's somewhat ironic that conservatives have the Congress but are even more powerless to do anything as long as the economic and employment numbers rise.
Does it seem like BHO is going to be bolder now in... (show quote)


Bold?! In your face contempt would more aptly describe how he feels about Americans who sent him the message they don't want or like his extreme l*****t policies. He has two years left to radically, fundamentally t***sform America into a collectivist state, and Obama fully intends to do just that.

And Obama's rising employment numbers are deceptive to say the least- A federal report concludes that ALL NET EMPLOYMENT GAINS since the Obama recession have gone to FOREIGN workers while 1.5 million FEWER U.S. born Americans have jobs now.
As for the spineless and useless Republicans, they are d********g, but they can't match the absolute corruption of the Democrats who are aiding and abetting Obama with his agenda to destroy this country

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