Guilty!—But Not Really Guilty? (Page 5): PROVE its crap!!!

martsiva

publican wrote:

You will find it more enlightening if you provide such a proof yourself. If I spoon-feed it to you, you will just go on believing the crap the VDH is spewing.

PROVE its crap!!!

publican

martsiva wrote:

The Biden created and Democrat supported border cr... (show quote)

I haven't the time to address all your talking points so I will just do a few:

The border "crisis": it has been around for a long time and was hardly created by Biden or the Democrats. it doesn't cost $150 billion per year - quite the opposite, these "i******s" are a net plus to the economy.
Censorship: I have no clue wtf you are talking about. I haven't noticed any. I am still drowning in right-wing talking points filling up the air all the time.
Intervention in Ukraine: have you ever heard about defending the West? have you ever heard of WWII? I we allow Ukraine to fall to Putin, guess what happens next.

The other things you mentioned are just fever dreams taken from who knows where, but it is not reality.

American Vet

[quote=publican]I haven't the time to address all your talking points so I will just do a few:

The border "crisis": it has been around for a long time and was hardly created by Biden or the Democrats. it doesn't cost $150 billion per year - quite the opposite, these "i******s" are a net plus to the economy.
This falls under the heading of "I say so - so it is a fact. Given that you are not trustworthy, you need to provide links/evidence of this.

Censorship: I have no clue wtf you are talking about. I haven't noticed any. I am still drowning in right-wing talking points filling up the air all the time.

Apparently you don't have a clue - it was all over the news.

A federal judge’s order Tuesday prohibiting various Biden administration agencies and officials from communicating with social media companies about certain content thrust an under-the-radar lawsuit into the national spotlight.

The preliminary injunction issued by US District Judge Terry Doughty in Louisiana ordered a slew of federal agencies and more than a dozen top officials not to communicate with social media companies about taking down “content containing protected free speech” that’s posted on the platforms.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/06/politics/social-media-misinformation-biden-administration-injunction-explainer/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/09/08/biden-administration-coerced-facebook-court-rules/70800723007/

Two federal courts have ruled that the Biden Administration unduly influenced social media moderation during the C****-** p******c
https://www.acsh.org/news/2024/02/25/c***d-censorship-yes-biden-admin-suppressed-free-speech-during-p******c-17678

biden's "Ministry of Disinformation"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-establishes-a-ministry-of-t***h-disinformation-governance-board-partisan-11651432312

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61502509

Intervention in Ukraine: have you ever heard about defending the West? have you ever heard of WWII? I we allow Ukraine to fall to Putin, guess what happens next.
Debatable.

The other things you mentioned are just fever dreams taken from who knows where, but it is not reality.
According to you.

martsiva

publican wrote:

I haven't the time to address all your talking poi... (show quote)

We have NEVER had a border crisis like this before so don`t even go there with that BS!! It HAS cost his country $150 BILLION EVERY YEAR since Biden took office and that is NOT your 'net plus to the economy' garbage!! I know you were living under a rock when the Twitter files came out proving censorship of free speech! It figures - you`re just another one spewing out that Putin is going to attack NATO countries insuring the destruction of his own country!! How utterly ludicrous!! You PROVE that the other things I`ve mentioned are 'fever dreams and not reality'!!

publican

[quote=American Vet]

publican wrote:

I haven't the time to address all your talking points so I will just do a few:

The border "crisis": it has been around for a long time and was hardly created by Biden or the Democrats. it doesn't cost $150 billion per year - quite the opposite, these "i******s" are a net plus to the economy.
This falls under the heading of "I say so - so it is a fact. Given that you are not trustworthy, you need to provide links/evidence of this.

Censorship: I have no clue wtf you are talking about. I haven't noticed any. I am still drowning in right-wing talking points filling up the air all the time.

Apparently you don't have a clue - it was all over the news.

A federal judge’s order Tuesday prohibiting various Biden administration agencies and officials from communicating with social media companies about certain content thrust an under-the-radar lawsuit into the national spotlight.

The preliminary injunction issued by US District Judge Terry Doughty in Louisiana ordered a slew of federal agencies and more than a dozen top officials not to communicate with social media companies about taking down “content containing protected free speech” that’s posted on the platforms.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/06/politics/social-media-misinformation-biden-administration-injunction-explainer/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/09/08/biden-administration-coerced-facebook-court-rules/70800723007/

Two federal courts have ruled that the Biden Administration unduly influenced social media moderation during the C****-** p******c
https://www.acsh.org/news/2024/02/25/c***d-censorship-yes-biden-admin-suppressed-free-speech-during-p******c-17678

biden's "Ministry of Disinformation"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-establishes-a-ministry-of-t***h-disinformation-governance-board-partisan-11651432312

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61502509

Intervention in Ukraine: have you ever heard about defending the West? have you ever heard of WWII? I we allow Ukraine to fall to Putin, guess what happens next.
Debatable.

The other things you mentioned are just fever dreams taken from who knows where, but it is not reality.
According to you.

I haven't the time to address all your talking poi... (show quote)

The border "crisis": here's a few links
https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/facts-not-fear-how-welcoming-immigrants-benefits-new-york-city/
https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/mobilizing-against-ine******y/post/five-ways-undocumented-immigrants-are-powering-american-economy
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs

Censorship: yes, there was some noise about the administration's clumsy attempts to shut down some of the more egregious cases of mis- or dis-information. And they were shot down for doing so. Hooray for the American system! That's how it is supposed to work. Nevertheless, it is not so simple as "free speech good, censorship bad". We are in a new world where misinformation can spread so rapidly as to distort reality in dangerous ways. It is not obvious how to deal with this unprecedented situation, but simple minded shouting about first amendment rights is not sufficient.

Intervention in Ukraine: there is nothing debatable here, unless you are a Russian agent. Are you a Russion agent?

The other things I mentioned as fever dreams: so what would you call them?

publican

martsiva wrote:

PROVE its crap!!!

Whose crap would you like me to prove?

microphor Loc: Home is TN

publican wrote:

I could, but it would be pearls before swine, so I won't.

So you have nothing? Its what we're use to from you so no big deal!

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

publican wrote:

VDH claims that Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Clinton, Holder, or Willis all received passes for their crimes. He doesn't like that and, no doubt, neither do you. So why should tfg receive a pass for his crimes?

https://feedsnorth.com/watch-mark-levin-meticulously-layout-the-dems-goal-for-one-party-rule-and-imprison-trump/

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

publican wrote:

I am not confused about anything. As I already said (please pay attention) I am not going to refute VDH's tendentious claims because it would be like casting pearls before swine. In case that is too much for you to understand, here is a glossary:

pearls = the t***h
swine = the Trumpistas

You aren't confused about anything because you know nothing. Ignorance is bliss in your case.

publican

dtucker300 wrote:

https://feedsnorth.com/watch-mark-levin-meticulously-layout-the-dems-goal-for-one-party-rule-and-imprison-trump/

Oh, please. Mark Levin is just a lunatic screecher. He poses as a constitutional scholar, but he abuses his "scholarship" to make his fringe-right-wing points.

publican

dtucker300 wrote:

You aren't confused about anything because you know nothing. Ignorance is bliss in your case.

Are you in 7th grade? Your insults need work.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

American Vet wrote:

And you have failed to prove any of those outlandish claims that you have made.

You seem to have a propensity to "fabricate" things from thin air. I suppose those on the left consider that a real talent.

Publican is the fabulist. Also suffers from coprophagia. Everything Publican says here is BS.

F.D.R.

publican wrote:

I could, but it would be pearls before swine, so I won't.

Meaning you can't.

publican

dtucker300 wrote:

Publican is the fabulist. Also suffers from coprophagia. Everything Publican says here is BS.

Prove it!

Knightlady