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Mar 21, 2024 20:52:02   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
WEBCO wrote:
Won't 8 million i*****l i*******ts suppress wages?

Tax cuts help everyone. All the people I know were much better off financially under Trump than Biden. Tax revenue actually increases with lower taxes. Your "theory" that capitalism creates c*******m is pretty of target. You keep saying that without any evidence to back it up. If you have any you might want to post it.



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Mar 21, 2024 21:18:26   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
WEBCO wrote:
Won't 8 million i*****l i*******ts suppress wages?

Tax cuts help everyone. All the people I know were much better off financially under Trump than Biden. Tax revenue actually increases with lower taxes. Your "theory" that capitalism creates c*******m is pretty of target. You keep saying that without any evidence to back it up. If you have any you might want to post it.


It has been posted numerous times in both articles and comments. Look for my recent posts. It is absolutely factual. And tax cuts trump passed actually contained time limits for many of the deductions working class people take, and many of those have now expired. Trump's tax cut has almost entirely helped the rich get richer, which is a major part of what is wrong with America today. Go take a college class in economics and learn facts for a change. The evidence for what caused c*******m has been presented multiple times with the relevant facts every time. So, either you missed them every time or you failed world history. 8 million i*****l a***ns will have little effect on holding down wages. We had over 11 million back in the 60s. They create demand and typically work minimum wage jobs most Americans refuse to do, such as picking strawberries. And they add to the economy at the bottom rung. Don't misunderstand. I prefer a tighter border as well. And I am against giving away money by the government. That generates an increase in the economy, but people need to work for their money.

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Mar 22, 2024 08:56:36   #
WEBCO
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
It has been posted numerous times in both articles and comments. Look for my recent posts. It is absolutely factual. And tax cuts trump passed actually contained time limits for many of the deductions working class people take, and many of those have now expired. Trump's tax cut has almost entirely helped the rich get richer, which is a major part of what is wrong with America today. Go take a college class in economics and learn facts for a change. The evidence for what caused c*******m has been presented multiple times with the relevant facts every time. So, either you missed them every time or you failed world history. 8 million i*****l a***ns will have little effect on holding down wages. We had over 11 million back in the 60s. They create demand and typically work minimum wage jobs most Americans refuse to do, such as picking strawberries. And they add to the economy at the bottom rung. Don't misunderstand. I prefer a tighter border as well. And I am against giving away money by the government. That generates an increase in the economy, but people need to work for their money.
It has been posted numerous times in both articles... (show quote)


Read your posts. Your opinions are not facts

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Mar 22, 2024 09:32:57   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
WEBCO wrote:
Read your posts. Your opinions are not facts


Read a history book and try to learn some facts for a change. History is factual. Not an opinion. I guess you don't know the difference.

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Mar 22, 2024 09:43:43   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
It has been posted numerous times in both articles and comments. Look for my recent posts. It is absolutely factual. And tax cuts trump passed actually contained time limits for many of the deductions working class people take, and many of those have now expired. Trump's tax cut has almost entirely helped the rich get richer, which is a major part of what is wrong with America today. Go take a college class in economics and learn facts for a change. The evidence for what caused c*******m has been presented multiple times with the relevant facts every time. So, either you missed them every time or you failed world history. 8 million i*****l a***ns will have little effect on holding down wages. We had over 11 million back in the 60s. They create demand and typically work minimum wage jobs most Americans refuse to do, such as picking strawberries. And they add to the economy at the bottom rung. Don't misunderstand. I prefer a tighter border as well. And I am against giving away money by the government. That generates an increase in the economy, but people need to work for their money.
It has been posted numerous times in both articles... (show quote)


Time limits on new policies is common, look it up.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/29/us-news/data-prove-it-the-trump-tax-cuts-soaked-the-rich/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/05/30/claim-overstates-trump-tax-cuts-impact-on-national-debt/70270322007/

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Mar 22, 2024 10:55:19   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
WEBCO wrote:
Read your posts. Your opinions are not facts


your ignorance of history is not my responsibility. Read a book and try to learn some facts for a change. Learn about the historic cause of c*******m. In every case, it has been caused by uncontrolled capitalism. The rich get more and more wealthy year by year, while the working class gets poorer and poorer. The standard of living for the working class gets worse and worse. Eventually, in every case, the working class revolts, k**ls the wealthy and the educated, and initiates c*******m as the government. Eventually, that doesn't work out well, and capitalism is reinstated, and the cycle starts over. Educate yourself. Educating you is not my responsibility. The only way to stop the cycle has been done time and again in Europe by adding social programs to help the working class and stop the wealthy from abusing the working class. In America, over the last 55 years, the wealthy have been doing exatly what is described above. Getting wealthier and wealthier as the working class gets poorer and poorer, watching their standard of living drop year by year. If you do not learn from history, you are bound to repeat it. Do you understand now? If not, go check out a world history book and educate yourself. That might help you cease making false comments.

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Mar 22, 2024 13:01:00   #
WEBCO
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Read a history book and try to learn some facts for a change. History is factual. Not an opinion. I guess you don't know the difference.


I have read your posts. They are disjointed and lack reasoning and any basis in facts. You simply support socialism and try to MAKE history and facts support your ideology. You've failed, in my view.

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Mar 22, 2024 13:05:15   #
WEBCO
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
your ignorance of history is not my responsibility. Read a book and try to learn some facts for a change. Learn about the historic cause of c*******m. In every case, it has been caused by uncontrolled capitalism. The rich get more and more wealthy year by year, while the working class gets poorer and poorer. The standard of living for the working class gets worse and worse. Eventually, in every case, the working class revolts, k**ls the wealthy and the educated, and initiates c*******m as the government. Eventually, that doesn't work out well, and capitalism is reinstated, and the cycle starts over. Educate yourself. Educating you is not my responsibility. The only way to stop the cycle has been done time and again in Europe by adding social programs to help the working class and stop the wealthy from abusing the working class. In America, over the last 55 years, the wealthy have been doing exatly what is described above. Getting wealthier and wealthier as the working class gets poorer and poorer, watching their standard of living drop year by year. If you do not learn from history, you are bound to repeat it. Do you understand now? If not, go check out a world history book and educate yourself. That might help you cease making false comments.
your ignorance of history is not my responsibility... (show quote)


Calling me ignorant doesn't make you right. Was c*******m installed after the French revolution?

You believe in socialism, another branch of the Marxist tree, I don't. It's as simple as that.
Have a nice weekend

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Mar 22, 2024 13:07:38   #
WEBCO
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
your ignorance of history is not my responsibility. Read a book and try to learn some facts for a change. Learn about the historic cause of c*******m. In every case, it has been caused by uncontrolled capitalism. The rich get more and more wealthy year by year, while the working class gets poorer and poorer. The standard of living for the working class gets worse and worse. Eventually, in every case, the working class revolts, k**ls the wealthy and the educated, and initiates c*******m as the government. Eventually, that doesn't work out well, and capitalism is reinstated, and the cycle starts over. Educate yourself. Educating you is not my responsibility. The only way to stop the cycle has been done time and again in Europe by adding social programs to help the working class and stop the wealthy from abusing the working class. In America, over the last 55 years, the wealthy have been doing exatly what is described above. Getting wealthier and wealthier as the working class gets poorer and poorer, watching their standard of living drop year by year. If you do not learn from history, you are bound to repeat it. Do you understand now? If not, go check out a world history book and educate yourself. That might help you cease making false comments.
your ignorance of history is not my responsibility... (show quote)


I do admire your commitment and passion. Just believe you are completely wrong. You've shown me nothing to change my mind...which means your argument isn't persuasive, which isn't MY fault.

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Mar 22, 2024 21:13:01   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
WEBCO wrote:
I have read your posts. They are disjointed and lack reasoning and any basis in facts. You simply support socialism and try to MAKE history and facts support your ideology. You've failed, in my view.


Then it appears you are incapable of following logic or a discussion of history. That would be your inability or simple refusal to follow history or logic. Your view, based on incompetence, appears to have deliberately failed to understand plain English.

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Mar 23, 2024 12:11:39   #
WEBCO
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Then it appears you are incapable of following logic or a discussion of history. That would be your inability or simple refusal to follow history or logic. Your view, based on incompetence, appears to have deliberately failed to understand plain English.


If you say so. You have a crackpot theory, that nobody agrees with, and I'm the dolt...

Did the French revolution lead to c*******m? The answer is NO. Your "theory" is debunked. It's very simple...

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Mar 23, 2024 12:34:46   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
WEBCO wrote:
Calling me ignorant doesn't make you right. Was c*******m installed after the French revolution?

You believe in socialism, another branch of the Marxist tree, I don't. It's as simple as that.
Have a nice weekend


Calling you ignorant doesn't make him right, but it still means you are ignorant, and he is still right because he is right.

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Mar 23, 2024 14:10:37   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Then it appears you are incapable of following logic or a discussion of history. That would be your inability or simple refusal to follow history or logic. Your view, based on incompetence, appears to have deliberately failed to understand plain English.


Throwing rocks isn't going to prove your point, even though you apparently feel that it will. How about some good, old-fashioned reasoning.

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Mar 23, 2024 17:25:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Throwing rocks isn't going to prove your point, even though you apparently feel that it will. How about some good, old-fashioned reasoning.


Didn't you mean this message for WEBCO?

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Mar 23, 2024 18:57:39   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Didn't you mean this message for WEBCO?


No, I meant it for Nick.

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