Steve700

Harpooner1

maybe you have not studied history so much. The original settlers of Jamestown tried a version of c*******m. Yes, they tried a collective. Everyone would share in the crops, the labor, all means of production. They nearly died out. Then someone came up with a brilliant idea...Capitalism. Yeah, the settlers were given their piece of land to do with what they needed to do. Bartering was then the norm as common currency was useless. The value of wh**ever you, as an individual, could produce was weighed against what others could produce and a value was determined by the people. Thus, if could grow corn, you could then trade that for another commodity of value. The colony flourished. It was individual responsibility to survive, yet, the community had it's own safety net. You had to actually work the land...No internet. They learned quickly that if there is no incentive to produce, that is, your hard efforts go to someone else who does not put the effort out, the society produces less to the detriment of all. Whether some produce more compared to the others, they do not produce something that people don't want or need. Or, that they can't produce efficiently. It works this way. If I have a bumper crop of corn, an abundance, that sounds good. But, the exchange of corn for another good becomes a barter that I either have to give more corn for less, or, I may not be able to trade the corn at all. What to do? I look at the market and see what is in demand.
Maybe it's eggs. So, I supplement my corn with a chicken farm...Now I have a diversified business. Perhaps I trade for some milk cows.
C*******m takes the incentive away and everyone is equally poor. But, as always, some are more equal than others.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Creds for being an honest Prog, anyway.

rkevin Loc: florida

Our country started out c*******t; until the Pilgrims realized that the hard workers were doing all the work for those who's families are now on Welfare!!! The Pilgrims changed THAT around quick, and in later years many of the non-working class invented education and "entitlements;" so [they] would never have to work. [They] later became politicians and remain as such today. The end!!!

sweetlips

hey rumi, how is this about your comrades
In 1992, the newspaper Literaturnaya Rossiya estimated that, including starvation and civil war, Soviet c*******m left 147 million dead. Even accepting the more moderate claim of Harvard University Press’s Black Book of C*******m – that c*******m murdered “only” 100 million worldwide – what these numbers represent is beyond comprehension. Stalin reportedly said: “One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic.”
• By December 1917, the Bolsheviks established their instrument of terror, the Cheka (the KGB’s precursor). Lina writes: “Lists of those shot and otherwise executed were published in the Cheka’s weekly newspaper. In this way it can be proved that 1.7 million people were executed during the period 1918-19. A river of blood flowed through Russia. The Cheka had to employ body counters.” By contrast, under the czars, 467 people were executed between 1826 and 1904.
• Trotsky declared: “We will reduce the Russian intelligentsia to a complete idiocy.” Lina writes: “1,695,604 people were executed from January 1921 to April 1922. Among these victims were bishops, professors, doctors, officers, policemen, gendarmes, lawyers, civil servants, journalists, writers, artists…” The Bolsheviks considered the intelligentsia the greatest threat to their dictatorship. This sheds light on the Marxist buzzword “proletariat.” The Illuminati knew nations are easier to ens***e if only peasants and laborers remain. But even the proletariat wasn’t spared. The Cheka brutally suppressed hundreds of peasant uprisings and labor strikes, executing victims as “counter-revolutionaries.”
• Satanic torture often accompanied k*****gs. Many priests were crucified. Some victims had eyes put out, or limbs chopped off, or were otherwise mutilated, while the next victims were forced to watch.

W8_4_It

Oh Sweet Jesus in heaven! Just when I think you can't make a post more misguided than the one I was reading, you manage to top yourself.

Please put down the crack pipe, and back away slowly.

That stuff is going to k**l you.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

It's already destroyed his mind.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Amen and Amen!!!! I suppose SOMETHING floats around in his head.........I just haven't figured out WHAT yet.
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Hemiman Loc: Communist California

I don't know what it is either but I know where he can put it.....🚽 🚽 🚽 🚽

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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JMHO Loc: Utah

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no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Excellent points, and your Jamestown reference is correct, but no longer taught in American history. Your explanation of free markets is easy to understand even for the left.

cold iron Loc: White House

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Tell me one society that has been successful under C*******m? Cuba? USSR? It's to early for China.

pafret Loc: Northeast

The first C*******t in the USA.

Harmony Society
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Harmony Society church in Old Economy Village, Pennsylvania.

The Harmony Society was a Christian theosophy and pietist society founded in Iptingen, Germany, in 1785. Due to religious persecution by the Lutheran Church and the government in Württemberg, the group moved to the United States,[1] where representatives initially purchased land in Butler County, Pennsylvania. On February 15, 1805, the group of approximately 400 followers formally organized the Harmony Society, placing all their goods in common.

Under its founder and spiritual leader, Johann Georg Rapp (1757–1847); Frederick (Reichert) Rapp (1775–1834), his adopted son who managed its business affairs; and their associates, the Society existed for one hundred years; roughly from 1805 until 1905. Members were known as Harmonists, Harmonites, or Rappites. The Society is best known for its worldly successes, most notably the establishment of three model communities, the first at Harmony, Pennsylvania; the second, also called Harmony, in the Indiana Territory, now New Harmony, Indiana; and the third and final town at Economy, now Ambridge, Pennsylvania.

On February 15, 1805, the settlers at Harmony, Pennsylvania, signed articles of association to formally establish the Harmony Society in the United States. In this document, Society members agreed to hold all property in a common fund, including working capital of $23,000 to purchase land, livestock, tools, and other goods needed to establish their town.[19] The agreement gave the Society legal status in the United States and protected it from dissolution. Members contributed all of their possessions, pledged cooperation in promoting the interests of the group, and agreed to accept no pay for their services. In return, the members would receive care as long as they lived with the group. Under this agreement, if a member left the Society, their funds would be returned without interest or, if they had not contributed to the Society's treasury, they would receive a small monetary gift.[20]

The Society was a religious congregation who submitted to submit to spiritual and material leadership under Rapp and his associates and worked together for the common good of all its members.[21] Believing that the Second Coming of Christ would occur during their lifetimes, the Harmonists contented to live simply under a strict religious doctrine, gave up tobacco, and advocated celibacy.[18]