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Mar 2, 2024 11:20:17   #
Liberty Tree
 
NotMAGA wrote:
ThAt is not true. Only the TOP positions are filled with people they assume will be loyal.
DJ fired everyone who wouldn't do exactly what they told him to, whether it was immoral, illegal, or contrary to their oath to abide by the Constitution.

And no, I don't think Biden is "running" this country. Our government is too big for any one man to run it.
But what do you think DJ would have done if a House committee had subpoenaed Jared over the 2 billion he got from the Chinese govt? Or if the Justice Dept had hired a Special Prosecutor to head an investigation into HIS family?

At least give Joe credit for staying hands off and not interfering in any of it. He's letting them grill and prosecute his formerly-addicted son for bad choices made while under the influence of narcotics.

I don't condone drug use - people should be smarter than that! - but I don't know if I could do what Joe is doing either. By that I mean staying out of it. It has to be crushing for a parent who has already lost two children.
ThAt is not true. Only the TOP positions are fille... (show quote)


If you think Joe is out of it you delusional.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:21:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
NotMAGA wrote:
ThAt is not true. Only the TOP positions are filled with people they assume will be loyal.
DJ fired everyone who wouldn't do exactly what they told him to, whether it was immoral, illegal, or contrary to their oath to abide by the Constitution.

And no, I don't think Biden is "running" this country. Our government is too big for any one man to run it.
But what do you think DJ would have done if a House committee had subpoenaed Jared over the 2 billion he got from the Chinese govt? Or if the Justice Dept had hired a Special Prosecutor to head an investigation into HIS family?

At least give Joe credit for staying hands off and not interfering in any of it. He's letting them grill and prosecute his formerly-addicted son for bad choices made while under the influence of narcotics.

I don't condone drug use - people should be smarter than that! - but I don't know if I could do what Joe is doing either. By that I mean staying out of it. It has to be crushing for a parent who has already lost two children.
ThAt is not true. Only the TOP positions are fille... (show quote)


He should have fired all the entrenched Obama people. Just like Obama did. He fired all the Bush people. Jared got two billion from the Saudi's not China. that's your preferred family getting rich off China. Unlike the Biden's, Kushner actually has an investment company. The Saudi's make money with Kushner. This prosecution of H****r has been done and "allowed" to proceed to keep the attention away from H****r's i***t, corrupt, demented dad.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:25:52   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Gee. I'm sorry you are incapable of rational thought and unable to follow written materials. Have you tried any of the available brain improving games or herbals to help your thinking ability?


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Seems to me what we really have is competition between two teams of WH subordinates or candidates. Biden has Obama in his corner (The Constitution H**er) and Susan Rice too (Groan!), but at the moment we do not have DJT's cabinet to mull over, which makes Biden a little ahead in this head game. It is very true that DJT had a troubled and quite disloyal staff that did not always follow his lead, and indeed, squashed some of DJT's ideas and directions, which we will never know about, now.
I wonder whether misunderstanding DJT has to do with his inability to relate to lesser minds if his reported IQ is 188? If you have ever worked around a super IQ person, it is very hard to keep up and very frustrating to understand the logic of his positions, but they usually are on the mark as time goes by.

This I lived with myself for my entire career with super IQ people in charge of major projects, especially in IBM and SAIC. Often their subordinates would undermine them subtly or sometimes openly, thinking that only they had the right answers. Perhaps this is at least partially the explanation for the disgruntled staff members DJT had to deal with. No one with a strong grasp of a major area of expertise likes to have someone come along and out-think them and make it stick in their own province, either.

After clearing away all the guff, DJT had a great production of good for the US, but Biden? Ye Gods! We are diving down now in this nation under his unkind, Puppet and lickspittle leadership. Biden's team seems to be set on ruining the country in every domain and aspect.
The progressives seem to be doing most of the driving down with Biden/Obama concurrence.

With all this in mind, it is easy to opt for the far lesser evil, DJT, even not knowing his proposed cabinet! MAGA makes sense to a lot of people, based upon what he accomplished in his 4 years, despite all the interference from staffers, the existing chaos, and the "loyal leftwing opposition". And, he respected our Constitution too, while Obama, now in his third term and gunning for his fourth as Puppet Master of Biden, deliberately violated it over 75 times during his 8 years as the official president, and continually lied to the people, too!

Having unelected Nood nicks running the country is definitely not my idea of sanity.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:34:37   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Part of the problem is what Trump’s staff encountered after a few weeks of working with him: There is very little cognitive ability and there is even less desire in him to even want to understand anything. All of those problems were then compounded by his decline due to age, unhealthy diet, and other poor health decisions, along with his emotional and psychological instability. There is really no logical way to compare the two men.

Biden is rational and functioning. He can understand and explain complex problems and policies. He can read long reports and comprehend situations. He can write clear and concise messages. He understands our Constitution and our history. He can still ride a bicycle and walk long distances.

By contrast, Trump refused to read any report and resisted writing anything. In briefings, his staff said they had to explain even simple concepts in the most basic terms and use pictures to help him understand. He would not read or attend briefings. He boasted that he had never read the Constitution and did not intend to read it. He constantly struggled with his staff because he expected to rule like a king and didn’t understand that our Constitution gives the president administrative powers, not anything more. He often made false statements because he never cared to know our history or science or anything he had to know to do his job.That is how he ran up a total of over 20,000 lies in his 4 years as president. He needs to use a golf cart to get from a chip shot to the putting green and from one building to the next at the G7 summit meeting. He needed the assistance of an elderly gentleman to walk him down a handicap ramp. His poor health and psychological dysfunction has combined with age to make all of his inherent problems even worse.

The reality is that Trump was never fit for any government office even several decades ago and he is even less so now.

Addendum: The above response includes publicly known actions and statements by Trump or his direct staff and are readily available from many sources too numerous to post here with a simple internet search from credible sources.

These comments come from a lifelong Conservative, who worked on President Reagan’s campaign and other conservative causes and campaigns and currently serves on a civics education nonprofit’s board, and are shared by MILLIONS of other REAL conservative patriots, who fully recognize that DJT was never a Conservative, does not fit any former Republican platform, and could never live up to our Founders’ requirements for virtuous leaders.
Part of the problem is what Trump’s staff encounte... (show quote)


This is OPP a mostly hard right wing dominated site . only right wing "facts" are recognized as the "t***h" by most of the respondents here . Good luck with your thread .

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Mar 2, 2024 11:41:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
This is OPP a mostly hard right wing dominated site . only right wing "facts" are recognized as the "t***h" by most of the respondants here . Good luck with your thead .


That's not the t***h. Most on here are considered "right", simply because the democrats have gone so far left. JFK would not have been welcome in today's Democrat leadership and you know it. The real battle is not between Democrats and Republicans. It's between traditionalists and progressives.
I'm a traditionalist. I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God as my Savior. I believe in the Founders vision of the Constitution. I believe in family values. I believe in Individual rights and responsibility. I believe in smaller government, more freedom of choice and states rights. I believe in war, only when Americas interests are in danger. I believe there are two g****rs. I believe taking from someone and giving to someone else just because they don't have as much is immoral. I could go on, but if that makes me hard right then I guess I am.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:51:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
He should have fired all the entrenched Obama people. Just like Obama did. He fired all the Bush people. Jared got two billion from the Saudi's not China. that's your preferred family getting rich off China. Unlike the Biden's, Kushner actually has an investment company. The Saudi's make money with Kushner. This prosecution of H****r has been done and "allowed" to proceed to keep the attention away from H****r's i***t, corrupt, demented dad.


No Jim, no one is making money with Kushner.. other than Kushner spending what SA gave him to start up, opposed by the SA board they were overruled by the prince who had the journalist dismembered..

https://therealdeal.com/national/2023/08/18/jared-kushners-investment-firm-not-making-many-investments/

Jared Kushner’s controversial investment firm is missing something: investments.

The former president’s son-in-law hasn’t done much with the nearly $3 billion that various Gulf nations, particularly Saudi Arabia, pledged to Affinity Partners, the Wall Street Journal reported. The firm has been collecting millions in management fees in the interim.



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Mar 2, 2024 11:51:36   #
Radar OReilly
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Part of the problem is what Trump’s staff encountered after a few weeks of working with him: There is very little cognitive ability and there is even less desire in him to even want to understand anything. All of those problems were then compounded by his decline due to age, unhealthy diet, and other poor health decisions, along with his emotional and psychological instability. There is really no logical way to compare the two men.

Biden is rational and functioning. He can understand and explain complex problems and policies. He can read long reports and comprehend situations. He can write clear and concise messages. He understands our Constitution and our history. He can still ride a bicycle and walk long distances.

By contrast, Trump refused to read any report and resisted writing anything. In briefings, his staff said they had to explain even simple concepts in the most basic terms and use pictures to help him understand. He would not read or attend briefings. He boasted that he had never read the Constitution and did not intend to read it. He constantly struggled with his staff because he expected to rule like a king and didn’t understand that our Constitution gives the president administrative powers, not anything more. He often made false statements because he never cared to know our history or science or anything he had to know to do his job.That is how he ran up a total of over 20,000 lies in his 4 years as president. He needs to use a golf cart to get from a chip shot to the putting green and from one building to the next at the G7 summit meeting. He needed the assistance of an elderly gentleman to walk him down a handicap ramp. His poor health and psychological dysfunction has combined with age to make all of his inherent problems even worse.

The reality is that Trump was never fit for any government office even several decades ago and he is even less so now.

Addendum: The above response includes publicly known actions and statements by Trump or his direct staff and are readily available from many sources too numerous to post here with a simple internet search from credible sources.

These comments come from a lifelong Conservative, who worked on President Reagan’s campaign and other conservative causes and campaigns and currently serves on a civics education nonprofit’s board, and are shared by MILLIONS of other REAL conservative patriots, who fully recognize that DJT was never a Conservative, does not fit any former Republican platform, and could never live up to our Founders’ requirements for virtuous leaders.
Part of the problem is what Trump’s staff encounte... (show quote)


Great article that does seem to point out the t***h.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:53:46   #
Radar OReilly
 
NotMAGA wrote:
The problem is, though these are FACTS, coming from people who knew him best during his time in office, most of the true DJ fans will either never see or hear them. And even if they did, would call it BS.

And because of that, we are in danger of having the US saddled with a true incompetent for another 4 years - if a heart attack doesn't k**l him off first.



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Mar 2, 2024 11:55:24   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
JFlorio wrote:
That's not the t***h. Most on here are considered "right", simply because the democrats have gone so far left. JFK would not have been welcome in today's Democrat leadership and you know it. The real battle is not between Democrats and Republicans. It's between traditionalists and progressives.
I'm a traditionalist. I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God as my Savior. I believe in the Founders vision of the Constitution. I believe in family values. I believe in Individual rights and responsibility. I believe in smaller government, more freedom of choice and states rights. I believe in war, only when Americas interests are in danger. I believe there are two g****rs. I believe taking from someone and giving to someone else just because they don't have as much is immoral. I could go on, but if that makes me hard right then I guess I am.
That's not the t***h. Most on here are considered ... (show quote)


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Very well put, JF!

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Mar 2, 2024 11:56:36   #
Radar OReilly
 
NotMAGA wrote:
This is not fear. This is trying to help people open their eyes to the t***h of what DJs ree******n would mean for this country.

It wouldn't be the bed of roses imagined by MAGAs.



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Mar 2, 2024 11:57:25   #
Radar OReilly
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Think, J, really THINK about what happens IF DJ gets reelected and he only picks people he knows won't argue with him even to tell him the t***h about something. That goes for ANY position in the Executive branch (and remember, he said he was replacing all of them). Every cabinet position, every Secretary or under-Secretary, ever Ambassador and everyone ELSE in the State Dept., or the Interior, or the IRS, or Justice or... Well, you name it, he will fill them with people who will be loyal to HIM over the country or Constitution

Nothing wrong with that....
Right?
Think, J, really THINK about what happens IF DJ ge... (show quote)



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Mar 2, 2024 11:57:35   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
JFlorio wrote:
He should have fired all the entrenched Obama people. Just like Obama did. He fired all the Bush people. Jared got two billion from the Saudi's not China. that's your preferred family getting rich off China. Unlike the Biden's, Kushner actually has an investment company. The Saudi's make money with Kushner. This prosecution of H****r has been done and "allowed" to proceed to keep the attention away from H****r's i***t, corrupt, demented dad.


Oops, sorry. You're right. Jared was the Saudis. After Kashoghi was tortured and k**led by them.
Jared had business with them worth $2 billion??
Guess we'll never know for sure.

China was DJ and Ivanka and their clothing or wh**ever it was they had the Chinese making them to sell here.

I have a different idea than you do about Jared's prosecution. I think the idea was to try to get his notoriously tender hearted dad to resign. I guarantee you, if Joe had stepped down, the House GOL would have moved on to Kamala, or whoever became VP, trying to find something to impeach them for - even though it would be as big a waste of time as their impeachment of the Homeland Security Secretary.

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Mar 2, 2024 11:59:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
manning5me wrote:
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Seems to me what we really have is competition between two teams of WH subordinates or candidates. Biden has Obama in his corner (The Constitution H**er) and Susan Rice too (Groan!), but at the moment we do not have DJT's cabinet to mull over, which makes Biden a little ahead in this head game. It is very true that DJT had a troubled and quite disloyal staff that did not always follow his lead, and indeed, squashed some of DJT's ideas and directions, which we will never know about, now.
I wonder whether misunderstanding DJT has to do with his inability to relate to lesser minds if his reported IQ is 188? If you have ever worked around a super IQ person, it is very hard to keep up and very frustrating to understand the logic of his positions, but they usually are on the mark as time goes by.

This I lived with myself for my entire career with super IQ people in charge of major projects, especially in IBM and SAIC. Often their subordinates would undermine them subtly or sometimes openly, thinking that only they had the right answers. Perhaps this is at least partially the explanation for the disgruntled staff members DJT had to deal with. No one with a strong grasp of a major area of expertise likes to have someone come along and out-think them and make it stick in their own province, either.

After clearing away all the guff, DJT had a great production of good for the US, but Biden? Ye Gods! We are diving down now in this nation under his unkind, Puppet and lickspittle leadership. Biden's team seems to be set on ruining the country in every domain and aspect.
The progressives seem to be doing most of the driving down with Biden/Obama concurrence.

With all this in mind, it is easy to opt for the far lesser evil, DJT, even not knowing his proposed cabinet! MAGA makes sense to a lot of people, based upon what he accomplished in his 4 years, despite all the interference from staffers, the existing chaos, and the "loyal leftwing opposition". And, he respected our Constitution too, while Obama, now in his third term and gunning for his fourth as Puppet Master of Biden, deliberately violated it over 75 times during his 8 years as the official president, and continually lied to the people, too!

Having unelected Nood nicks running the country is definitely not my idea of sanity.
==================== br Seems to me what we really... (show quote)


Strange post Manning.. you missed a bunch.. Only trump has proposed the ending of our constitution.. for one.. no need to go further, but I can not help but comment also that only trump attempted to o*******w our elected government..



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Mar 2, 2024 12:03:34   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
manning5me wrote:
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Very well put, JF!


I still don't understand how people who say they believe in "family values" can support a thrice-married man who c***ted on every one of his wives and has been accused many times of sexual assault - once, by his own words.
A man who never showed .much interest in ANY of his children except Ivanka - except to put them against one another.
A man so brutal and foul-mouthed and cruel he would mimic someone with a physical disability and make jokes about parents who lost a son in the service of our country.
I cannot and will not ever understand it.

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Mar 2, 2024 12:04:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
permafrost wrote:
No Jim, no one is making money with Kushner.. other than Kushner spending what SA gave him to start up, opposed by the SA board they were overruled by the prince who had the journalist dismembered..

https://therealdeal.com/national/2023/08/18/jared-kushners-investment-firm-not-making-many-investments/

Jared Kushner’s controversial investment firm is missing something: investments.

The former president’s son-in-law hasn’t done much with the nearly $3 billion that various Gulf nations, particularly Saudi Arabia, pledged to Affinity Partners, the Wall Street Journal reported. The firm has been collecting millions in management fees in the interim.
No Jim, no one is making money with Kushner.. othe... (show quote)


If true why haven’t the Saudi’s sued? The fact remains. It’s a legitimate, properly licensed firm. As usual you are missing the point. The Biden’s received millions and had no business.

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