son of witless

Now I don't know it was bad veins, but that is what I am assuming. When medical personnel cannot establish an IV, that is likely the problem. More than a few times, I've had similar problems with IVs. I never thought it could be a good thing.

A firing squad is an option. Bullets rarely fail.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-fails-execution-five-time-murder-convict-thomas-eugene-creech

" The state of Idaho was unable to execute Thomas Eugene Creech on Thursday, one of the longest-serving death row inmates in the U.S.

Medical personnel administering the lethal injection failed to establish an IV line despite trying for roughly an hour. "

" Idaho Gov. Brad Little signed legislation last year authorizing the use of a firing squad as a method of execution if lethal injection is deemed unavailable. It is unclear whether Wednesday's failure would meet that standard. "

Kevyn

I do not support Capitol punishment because of the possibility of k*****g somebody wrongly convicted. That aside an opiate overdose is fatal and thousands who have been revived have not said it was painful, in fact the opposite why not a hot shot of Heroin or f******l? It works without an IV, can be administered in a number of ways and is dirt cheap. Not attackable as cruel or unusual punishment.

son of witless

Do you believe there is a snowball's chance in Hell that this inmate was wrongfully convicted ?

Kevyn

You are missing the point of my post. An significant opiate overdose causes death without pain skirting the cruel and unusual punishment clause in our constitution. I am curious why it isn’t used for executions.

son of witless

Okay, since you want to pursue this line of discussion, I'll bite. You seem to be more knowledgeable than I am. The current lethal injection obviously requires the establishment of an IV line. Does the opiate overdose not require that or is it just that there is less pain and suffering than the standard lethal injection ?

Government bureaucrats are not known for their innovative thinking. Likely nobody is pushing for your solution because that would require extra effort on an important somebody, and that will not happen.

I am of the opposite camp when it comes to executions. There are some people for whom simple execution is far too easy or merciful. I am not talking about a simple murderer or someone who commits manslaughter in a fit of rage.

I am talking about someone who rapes and then murders and there is 1000 % proof they are guilty. Screw the cruel and unusual punishment clause.

Kevyn

A person can eat, snort, inject sub cutaneously, inner muscular or absorb topically enough opiate or synthetic opiate such as f******l to k**l them. Painless and quickly dead.

son of witless

Okay you have sold me. At the earliest opportunity I will contact my colleagues in the execution industry and inform them of your most excellent suggestion. Of course I still believe that this makes things far too humane for a lot of murderers.

I began to list my favored options of execution of especially egregious murderers, but I thought they likely would get me banned. A real shame now that I think about them.

DAV

The purpose of punishment is to set examples for other people not to do what they did. The people who have the Look-At-Me-See-How-Nice-I-Am Syndrome are self righteous hypocrites.

son of witless

The purpose of punishment is also to give victims a sense of justice. When that sense of justice is denied, the victims and the general public feel a sense of helplessness. Here is a case of justice denied, and the consequences for the judge who disrespected the victim.

https://news.yahoo.com/judge-reversed-drew-clinton-rape-193430947.html

" An Illinois judge who overturned a teen’s rape conviction and let him walk free has reportedly been removed from criminal cases.

" Adams County Judge Robert Adrian sparked nationwide outrage this week with his ruling on the case of 18-year-old Drew Clinton, who was found was found guilty of raping a 16-year-old at a graduation party in May 2021. "