1882 Winchester rifle found in Great Basin National Park (Page 2): in answer to your second question, yes...

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

PoppaGringo wrote:

No. Why would anyone try doing that, and under what circumstances? Are you inferring someone was doing what bears do in the woods and was surprised by a bear? Marines know to pull their trousers up when walking or running. I don't know about other branches such as those that travel by water.

in answer to your second question, yes

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

A novice to the outdoors perhaps ? It does happen and in particular heavily forested areas. Many a beginning h****r has lost their way back to pick up their rifle from its rest against a tree they just knew they could never forget. Juniper trees are yum yum treats to deer. Could have been deer hunting.

In some terrain its wise to frequently mark your vehicle's location while trekking away from it in todays world.
Possible explanation. ;-)

Or a big cat got in a first strike.

Dummy Boy wrote:

...yes it fell and leaned up a against a tree...it didn't report any corpse near it, so it must of been forgotten or lost. Obviously I don't know.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

missinglink wrote:

A novice to the outdoors perhaps ? It does happen and in particular heavily forested areas. Many a beginning h****r has lost their way back to pick up their rifle from its rest against a tree they just knew they could never forget. Juniper trees are yum yum treats to deer. Could have been deer hunting.

In some terrain its wise to frequently mark your vehicle's location while trekking away from it in todays world.
Possible explanation. ;-)

Or a big cat got in a first strike.

I suggested that and I was told something similar, like why would anyone drop their gun or leave it behind.

As for being a novice. I have only hunted on horseback once, about 25 years ago elk in Wyoming. Elk spoiled me, I can't stand venison.
The only hunting I do now is for Turkey. I have a "gimpy" leg due to a motorcycle accident, so I just don't enjoy it anymore, but my middle son is going to be my future "gun nut", so I do it for him. He can almost handle a double-barreled 410, for his size, it still kicks him like a mule.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Dummy Boy wrote:

I suggested that and I was told something similar,... (show quote)

:lol: :lol: :lol: A .410 shotgun has as much 'kick' as a .22 rifle. How old is your middle son..1 or 2 years of age?

I am unaware of anyone hunting elk on horseback. Is this something new?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

PoppaGringo wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol: A .410 shotgun has as much 'kick' as a .22 rifle. How old is your middle son..1 or 2 years of age?

I am unaware of anyone hunting elk on horseback. Is this something new?

He's twelve and little small for his age. He has shot it, but he doesn't like the kick. I don't the compression data curve, but it kicks, he only weighs about a buck.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Dummy Boy wrote:

He's twelve and little small for his age. He has shot it, but he doesn't like the kick. I don't the compression data curve, but it kicks, he only weighs about a buck.

I received a .410 for my 10th birthday and experienced no 'kick' whatsoever. In fact, as I previously stated, it has about as much 'kick' as a .22 cal. rifle...which is zero. Perhaps newer models, coupled with more powerful ammo loads, are more powerful. If that is true, which is doubtful, then I am in error. While I am not questioning your veracity or integrity, I am skeptical.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Dummy Boy wrote:

He's twelve and little small for his age. He has shot it, but he doesn't like the kick. I don't the compression data curve, but it kicks, he only weighs about a buck.

I was small for my age at 12, and had no problem with a .20. Have him hold it more tightly against his shoulder. It reduces the felt recoil. He probably held it too loosely the first couple of times he shot it. That increases the perceived recoil.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

Dummy Boy wrote:

He's twelve and little small for his age. He has shot it, but he doesn't like the kick. I don't the compression data curve, but it kicks, he only weighs about a buck.

when I was 14 I was hunting with a 20 ga. and I was 4' 10" and weighed 86 lbs.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Loki wrote:

I was small for my age at 12, and had no problem with a .20. Have him hold it more tightly against his shoulder. It reduces the felt recoil. He probably held it too loosely the first couple of times he shot it. That increases the perceived recoil.

That is the crux of the matter, IMHO, the 'perceived' kick as opposed to actual recoil.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

PoppaGringo wrote:

That is the crux of the matter, IMHO, the 'perceived' kick as opposed to actual recoil.

I was watching a buddy shoot a 30.06 and it was really kicking his ass so I ask him to let me try it so I held it tight to my shoulder and leaned into it and pulled the trigger and almost fell on my face as there wasn't any kick

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

There ya go. One would never lay their rifle down on the ground when a tree is near by. He could have left it there for any one of several reasons but the normal is he couldn't find were he left it. Some years ago a friend of mine found a 30-06 in near pristine condition at a heavily hunted mule deer location in a juniper tree location.

I agree, elk is hard to beat. In my opinion the only wild four legged game better is moose and not by much.

Dummy Boy wrote:

I suggested that and I was told something similar,... (show quote)

Loki Loc: Georgia

missinglink wrote:

There ya go. One would never lay their rifle down on the ground when a tree is near by. He could have left it there for any one of several reasons but the normal is he couldn't find were he left it. Some years ago a friend of mine found a 30-06 in near pristine condition at a heavily hunted mule deer location in a juniper tree location.

I agree, elk is hard to beat. In my opinion the only wild four legged game better is moose and not by much.

Moose is much better, HMHO.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Dummy Boy wrote:

...we have so many guns in this country...they just "pop up" out of nowhere...

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=33093460&nid=

No bigotry or r****m suggested here Alex, ok?

The person was burying treasure and leaned the gun against the tree while he dug the hole.Someone needs to go there and dig up the treasure.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Loki wrote:

I was small for my age at 12, and had no problem with a .20. Have him hold it more tightly against his shoulder. It reduces the felt recoil. He probably held it too loosely the first couple of times he shot it. That increases the perceived recoil.

He's very sensitive to sound, but he sure likes to shoot. He has bow as well, which he and I have a lot fun with target practice.

I think would probably like to hit a turkey with a bow...not sure if anyone bow hunts turkeys :D