good evening Al... such a wonderful day to be a liberal....

So you want to trump the thread?... OK..

follow the link, a lot more in this short story.. Have a nice night,, wake up early and we can do more back and forth...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/16/2223707/-Trump-whines-and-cries-as-he-s-spanked-on-Border-Security?detail=emaildkbow&pm_source=DKRE&pm_medium=email

Trump whines and cries as he's spanked on Border Security
Frank Vyan Walton, author
by Frank Vyan Walton

The Lincoln Project has put up a devastating ad blasting Trump for undermining border security and putting our nation at risk.

Trump wants our economy to fail and the border to be in chaos, all for his own political gain. The GOP is willing to assist him, at the cost of our national security.

The Republican Party has shown you their hand time and time again. Stop shaking it.

This has prompted the great Orange snake to spit forth even more fresh venom.

(at this point trump ranted on about facts he could not slither out of,, follow the link if you wish)

The simple fact is, nearly all of this response is a lie.

Trump claims '“They didn’t happen to mention anything about the 18,000,000 I*****l A***ns that will have invaded our Country” — but they do mention them. They accuse Trump of helping those migrants by blocking the bi-partisan border deal from the Senate which would allow the border to be closed if too many migrants arrive.

Trump claims “Nor did they talk about the drugs pouring into the USA in amounts so large that no one,” but in the ad they accuse Trump of being on the same side as the drug traffickers and the “Coyotes” who implement human trafficking.

So he didn’t watch the ad. He has no idea what’s actually in it.

Drugs and f******l are a serious problem, but in point of fact, migrants aren’t responsible for that problem.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted f******l drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of i*****l i*******ts for the same offense.

The rate of immigrants who commit crimes is dramatically less than the rate of crime by U.S. Citizens.

In 2018, the i*****l i*******t criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 i*****l i*******ts, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 native‐​born Americans. The i*****l i*******t criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of native‐​born Americans in Texas. The general pattern of native‐​born Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by i*****l i*******ts and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes.

And terrorism is a legitimate threat, but there has never been a terrorist attack attempted by someone who crossed the Southern Border.

there have been zero terrorist attacks on U.S. soil by i*****l i*******ts or asylum seekers who crossed that border.

So even though these issues involving migrants has been heavily hyped, they’re not a real problem.

Even Trump’s calling these migrants “I*****l A***ns” is wrong because “8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien” is not a criminal offense.

Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—

(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or

(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection

Crossing the border to seek asylum is a completely legal process under 8 U.S. Code § 1158.

Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

Entering the U.S. for asylum is legal. Improper entry is a CIVIL offense, it’s not criminal. It’s not a crime, It’s not illegal. It doesn’t become criminal unless someone re-enters after they’ve been deported.

Calling these people “I*****l A***ns” makes no sense because nothing here is illegal.

Even those who enter and don’t seek asylum, but are merely assigned a court date for their deportation hearing — have not broken the law. They’ve merely committed an infraction. The penalty is merely a fine.

Most importantly it’s a blatant lie that the border is “Open” because it is simply not. Most of the migrants encountered by Border Patrol are being expelled and blocked from entry. The Border Patrol’s own statistics prove this

For FY23 they have 1.505,581 Arrested under Title 8 and 550,278 Expelled under Title 42. [From Lower right corner of the chart]

That totals to 2,055,089 people for just that year.

Permafrost, I know you have a tough time understanding things so I will try to explain it to you. A legal alien applies for an entry visa at a US Embassy in their home country. After meeting certain qualifications, the visa gets approved and they are allowed to enter our country.
Everyone who enters the US by crossing our boarders by any other means is counted as an i*****l a***n and therefore, a criminal because it is ILLEGAL to just swim across the Rio Grand river and come into our country. I hope that explanation isn't too complicated for you.

True you are so lost...



Drugs and f******l are a serious problem, but in point of fact, migrants aren’t responsible for that problem.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted f******l drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of i*****l i*******ts for the same offense.

The rate of immigrants who commit crimes is dramatically less than the rate of crime by U.S. Citizens.

In 2018, the i*****l i*******t criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 i*****l i*******ts, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 native‐​born Americans. The i*****l i*******t criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of native‐​born Americans in Texas. The general pattern of native‐​born Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by i*****l i*******ts and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes.

And terrorism is a legitimate threat, but there has never been a terrorist attack attempted by someone who crossed the Southern Border.

there have been zero terrorist attacks on U.S. soil by i*****l i*******ts or asylum seekers who crossed that border.

So even though these issues involving migrants has been heavily hyped, they’re not a real problem.

Even Trump’s calling these migrants “I*****l A***ns” is wrong because “8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien” is not a criminal offense.

Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—

(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or

(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Crossing the border to seek asylum is a completely legal process under 8 U.S. Code § 1158.

Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

Entering the U.S. for asylum is legal. Improper entry is a CIVIL offense, it’s not criminal. It’s not a crime, It’s not illegal. It doesn’t become criminal unless someone re-enters after they’ve been deported.

Calling these people “I*****l A***ns” makes no sense because nothing here is illegal.

Even those who enter and don’t seek asylum, but are merely assigned a court date for their deportation hearing — have not broken the law. They’ve merely committed an infraction. The penalty is merely a fine.

Most importantly it’s a blatant lie that the border is “Open” because it is simply not. Most of the migrants encountered by Border Patrol are being expelled and blocked from entry. The Border Patrol’s own statistics prove this

For FY23 they have 1.505,581 Arrested under Title 8 and 550,278 Expelled under Title 42. [From Lower right corner of the chart]


*Title 8 Enforcement Actions refers to apprehensions or inadmissibles processed under CBP’s immigration authority. Inadmissibles refers to individuals encountered at ports of entry who are seeking lawful admission into the United States but are determined to be inadmissible, individuals presenting themselves to seek humanitarian protection under our laws, and individuals who withdraw an application for admission and return to their countries of origin within a short time frame. Apprehensions refers to the physical control or temporary detainment of a person who is not lawfully in the U.S. which may or may not result in an arrest.