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Feb 23, 2024 10:49:41   #
Big Kahuna
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Coos, The only reason I can think of for this instance of Russian interference is that they wanted to do what they could to help Trump get elected. I'm pretty sure the MAGA posters on OPP, will find some crazy reason for blaming President Biden.


Hitlery started the Russian interference game when she lost to Trump in 2016. She and ovommit et al started the f**e Russian Collusion Delusion. The fact was, Putin loved Hitlery for giving him 20% of our uranium and graced Billy Bob $500,000 per speech to the politboro. Putin even donated millions$$$ to the Clinton Foundation in their quid pro quo schemes. Putin wants weak demorats in power so therefore endorses slo joe for President.

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Feb 23, 2024 11:55:20   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4481888-the-memo-gop-on-defense-over-biden-probe-after-russian-revelations/


The repubs case against Biden doesn't rely on just one informer. They have bank records and other witnesses as well as the 170 SARS reported by banks.And the shell companies that are still unexplained. But we'll wait and see how it goes. Maybe they will say Biden is too senile to prosecute like they did with his stolen documents.

Can't remember s**t but can still run the country
Only in America

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Feb 23, 2024 12:14:37   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
nonalien1 wrote:
The repubs case against Biden doesn't rely on just one informer. They have bank records and other witnesses as well as the 170 SARS reported by banks.And the shell companies that are still unexplained. But we'll wait and see how it goes. Maybe they will say Biden is too senile to prosecute like they did with his stolen documents.

Can't remember s**t but can still run the country
Only in America


We won't have good choices till 2028 --Participation in politics is increasingly becoming a bummer but we keep trying . Hope is all we have--

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Feb 23, 2024 12:54:01   #
sail375
 
This year is already at the defining moment for the end of America as a Free Nation and a functioning Society.

Democrats and Republicans from Biden and Trump to their Partisan V**ers are lined up doing Combat in an Eight year old vicious and uncivilized Psychological War neither side will win.

It has quantifiable Body Counts, Casualties, and it has Battle Damages.

During the latter year of James Buchanan's reign as the Democrat President, the situation was the same. The first Civil War began after Buchanan was ousted from office by Abraham Lincoln. Today, we are at the point of doing exactly the same thing.

Biden wins, Civil War. Trump wins, Civil War. This broken, shattered Humpty Dumpty can not be put back together. The two Parties are Vinegar and Water.

It won't matter that you might be Democrat, Republican, or Non-political. You will serve and obey the Tyrant.

Oddly enough, the brute force of S***ery is one of the significant issues today. According to Democrats, you will surrender. You will obey. And, you will be grateful, no matter who you are. Sound familiar?

Republicans are as divided as Democrats. That is obvious. So, each side has a reduced Radical Compliance issue. When it counts, dying in combat, each has much fewer Radicals than their Lies tell.

There are at least 260 million Adults in America. The math simply does not support the intended Servitude the Democrats seek. Their reality is far less that they reveal.

Then, there are the Nonparty and Non-political people? Most are likely to turn on anyone who wants to deprive them.

The extension of the Psychological War is, therefore, completely unsustainable for either Party.

This is the situation even before you get to the Constitutional issues. For the moment, America is a still a Constitutional Republic. We the People rule this Nation. Not these insane Lunatics of the Democratic or Republican Parties.

Every person, no matter who they think they are, in America must choose sides. That is what these two Domestic Enemies, Democrats and Republicans, are pushing. Neither has the capacity to be Civilized, Mature, Intelligent, and Compromising Adults. It is all about the Corrupting Evil of Power and Money with both Parties.

My view is that Democrats and Republicans are equal and separate threats that together have already inflcted a mortal wound on the Republic. As a Veteran, my Oath is to Republic, Constitution, and Freedom. I have had the experience of facing both Foreign and Domestic Enemies with loaded weapon in hand.

I know exactly what War and Civil Unrest are, and what their consequences truly mean. More innocent Dead Bodies, and many more innocent people Wounded and Maimed until the Bullets stop flying.

I never in 54 e******ns v**ed for Democrats. I have not considered v****g for Republicans when there was a Third Party candidate for the Elected Office. I have no intention of changing that.

I stand by my Oath of Service, my Family, my experiences, and this Republic. It is just that simple.

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Feb 23, 2024 13:29:09   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
David L wrote:
And please explain how Putin's dream moved forward during the Trump administration.


David, It didn't. It moved forward in Biden's administration. That doesn't mean that Putin is a Biden fan. Putin never realized that the Ukrainians would put up the kind of fight that they are now. He never realized that the US would arm the Ukrainians to the extent that they are. He never realized that his aggression would cause more European countries to join NATO.
On the other hand, the former president has always been an admirer of Putin, as well as other so called strong men. I believe from everything Trump has said, that he would love to have the kind of power that Putin has. He has said that when president, he would come after all those that come after him. He has said that he would like to have complete power, because no president could do a good job without having that kind of power. He commented that he would encourage Russia to attack members of NATO that don't pay their full dues. These are not the attitudes of a man that doesn't approve of Putin. There is just too much other evidence to list here.

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Feb 23, 2024 13:31:10   #
American Vet
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
the former president has always been an admirer of Putin, .


Well, liar, you keep saying this.

So provide the quote where Trump actually said that.

Otherwise - simply another lie.

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Feb 23, 2024 14:12:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Hitlery started the Russian interference game when she lost to Trump in 2016. She and ovommit et al started the f**e Russian Collusion Delusion. The fact was, Putin loved Hitlery for giving him 20% of our uranium and graced Billy Bob $500,000 per speech to the politboro. Putin even donated millions$$$ to the Clinton Foundation in their quid pro quo schemes. Putin wants weak demorats in power so therefore endorses slo joe for President.


Kahuna..... !!!!!!!! Still this junk.. Russia never go any uranium for the USA.. the story was very different than the version right wingers pushed so hard.. You think that trump never got help from Putin/Russia, but the facts are overwhelming proof of otherwise.. no direct link to put trump in prison.. far different Point.. And NO Putin did not donated millions to the Clinton Foundation, that was done by a wealthy Russian who had at one time been part of Putin team.. but the time line proved to be as a private citizen.. the strong leadership of Biden who refused to give Putin the gifts trump bestowed on him, may well of forced Putin to start the war in order to obtain those things, some now more later.. the report that he wants Joe is the often used Russian tactic of false endorsement which is in t***h an effort to reduce support of Biden in this case and therefore bring up the v**es for the truly wanted Yes sir man pet trump...



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Feb 23, 2024 14:25:59   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
Kahuna..... !!!!!!!! Still this junk.. Russia never go any uranium for the USA.. the story was very different than the version right wingers pushed so hard.. You think that trump never got help from Putin/Russia, but the facts are overwhelming proof of otherwise.. no direct link to put trump in prison.. far different Point.. And NO Putin did not donated millions to the Clinton Foundation, that was done by a wealthy Russian who had at one time been part of Putin team.. but the time line proved to be as a private citizen.. the strong leadership of Biden who refused to give Putin the gifts trump bestowed on him, may well of forced Putin to start the war in order to obtain those things, some now more later.. the report that he wants Joe is the often used Russian tactic of false endorsement which is in t***h an effort to reduce support of Biden in this case and therefore bring up the v**es for the truly wanted Yes sir man pet trump...
Kahuna..... !!!!!!!! Still this junk.. Russia neve... (show quote)


I can remember when the Republicans fought the C****e USSR but the demorat party fought the Republicans who fought these c****e sob's. The demorats loved Kruschev and his c****es and at one time l*****t jacka$$ Teddy Kennedy went to Russia to help the c****es fight against President Nixon. The dems never wanted to tear down the Berlin Wall but fought to keep it up to subvert those who were trying to get out of East c****e Berlin to West Berlin, the free part of Germany. Thank God Reagan, Bush Sr and Pope John Paul, three Conservatives at that time freed the Eastern Berliners. Bribem is our weakest president ever and if you support that fool, you are one too.



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Feb 23, 2024 14:42:54   #
martsiva
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
David, It didn't. It moved forward in Biden's administration. That doesn't mean that Putin is a Biden fan. Putin never realized that the Ukrainians would put up the kind of fight that they are now. He never realized that the US would arm the Ukrainians to the extent that they are. He never realized that his aggression would cause more European countries to join NATO.
On the other hand, the former president has always been an admirer of Putin, as well as other so called strong men. I believe from everything Trump has said, that he would love to have the kind of power that Putin has. He has said that when president, he would come after all those that come after him. He has said that he would like to have complete power, because no president could do a good job without having that kind of power. He commented that he would encourage Russia to attack members of NATO that don't pay their full dues. These are not the attitudes of a man that doesn't approve of Putin. There is just too much other evidence to list here.
David, It didn't. It moved forward in Biden's admi... (show quote)


Oh yes Putin did realize all these things!! Realizing the strong points of adversaries is not admiration - it`s how you learn to overcome them and win wars!! Do you actually think Putin didn`t think the US would arm the Ukrainians when the US had a hand in starting this war in the first place?? YOU point out where Putin threatened to march on any European nation!! Give us quotes where Trump said he wanted the kind of power Putin has!! He said he would come after the Marxist Democrat t*****rs in our government that have done so much damage to this nation!! ONCE AGAIN - show us where we are the piggy bank of the world that we can afford to pay for our defense and the defense of those countries who do not pay what they agreed on into NATO!! You accuse Trump of admiring Putin and TOTALL Y ignore Biden`s blatant ties to c*******t China and Xi!!

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Feb 23, 2024 15:59:41   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I care about the t***h more than which side wins . I expect my politicians to be a cut above . . That means no c***ting or lying or dirty tricks .


Share some of that "stuff" with me? I love hallucinations.

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Feb 23, 2024 16:07:39   #
pegw
 
So the person who supposedly had the goods on Biden turns out to be a Russian mole. The Republicans seem to be ignoring this fact and going forward on trying to hang Biden without a shred of evidence. Sad!

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Feb 23, 2024 16:25:39   #
pegw
 
Biden has been a politician since the 60's. All that time, nobody said he was crooked until he was elected president, and Trump accused him of grifting. Since Trump is the man of 30,000 lies, I bet Biden is very innocent.

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Feb 23, 2024 16:37:35   #
American Vet
 
pegw wrote:
Biden has been a politician since the 60's. All that time, nobody said he was crooked until he was elected president, and Trump accused him of grifting. Since Trump is the man of 30,000 lies, I bet Biden is very innocent.


170 SARs

Millions paid to biden family members thru shell companies.

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Feb 23, 2024 16:39:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
pegw wrote:
So the person who supposedly had the goods on Biden turns out to be a Russian mole. The Republicans seem to be ignoring this fact and going forward on trying to hang Biden without a shred of evidence. Sad!



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Feb 23, 2024 16:41:54   #
American Vet
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:



COMMENTARY: More on FBI informant Smirnov that doesn’t add up

In breaking news Tuesday evening, Alexander Smirnov, the longtime FBI informant whose alleged lies relating to Biden bribery were immortalized in that “1023” is now being said by Special Counsel David Weiss to have ties with Russian intelligence. Those ties, he says, were “involved in passing a story about H****r B***n that has been critical to congressional Republicans’ efforts to investigate the first family.”

Actually, as we’ll get to below, it’s not so critical. But Democrats want us to believe it is. And mainstream media is running with the “Russia” theme. Note the headline on ABC NEWS…

https://abcnews.go.com/US/h****r-biden-informant-charged-lying-high-level-russian/story?id=107389985

The filing by Weiss sounds suspiciously like yet another of the intelligence community’s “Russian disinformation” tales: "Smirnov's efforts to spread misinformation about a candidate of one of the two major parties in the United States continues," the filing states. "What this shows is that the misinformation he is spreading is not confined to 2020. He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. e******ns after meeting with Russian intelligence officials in November.”

Aside from the now-tired references to “Russian disinformation,” there’s something about this story that just isn’t right. For years, this individual was a highly-paid and utilized confidential human source (CHS) for the FBI. As recently as last summer, they were refusing to release the “1023” because, they claimed, it would compromise a valuable source. Did they still not know last summer that he had lied to them in 2017? About something so consequential?

House Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer of Kentucky said, “When asked by the committee about their confidence in the confidential human source, the FBI told the committee the [CHS] was credible and trusted.” Smirnov, he said, “had worked with the FBI for over a decade and had been paid six figures.” Of course, Smirnov was also well aware that lying to a federal agent is against the law.

So, “Did Smirnov really lie about this or not?” is just the first of the questions we have. Why did the DOJ not charge Christopher Steele with the same crime, when he seemingly committed it with his “dossier” falsely tying Trump to Russia? And why did they wait years to charge Smirnov with lying, or even just to change their tune on the matter of his reliability?

We all understood when the “1023” story broke that the notes of an FBI agent in such a report constitute raw intelligence that still requires investigation and verification. Without that next step, it wasn’t solid evidence of the Biden family’s wrongdoing, yet the media and Democrats (same thing) are now talking as if all the evidence the committee has gathered had just gone away somehow. Au contraire. Plenty of evidence is there, mostly in the form of financial records and sworn testimony.

So...drop the impeachment inquiry? Are they kidding?

It’s easy to speculate, so let’s. Perhaps Smirnov used to be a trusted source but was found out by the Russians and c*********d somehow, made to pass along certain information. But why would Russia want him to pass along a story damaging to Biden, when we now have good reason to believe that Putin really did NOT want Trump in the White House due to his unpredictability. (Note: this is just the opposite of what our intelligence community was telling us.) Again, it doesn’t make sense.

FOX NEWS reports that Smirnov has been released from custody in Las Vegas after turning in his passport; he’s wearing an ankle monitor. If he disappears, the one way to find out if Burisma founder Mikola Zlochevsky really said he “paid $5 million to one Biden and $5 million to another Biden” is to hear it from Zlochevsky himself.

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