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Jan 24, 2024 18:47:13   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Under the American Constitution one can practice free speech. This has always meant that really good, really bad, and even really nasty ideas could be cast into the public discourse. Really nasty ideas using the most reprehensible language is allowed. Yes, free speech is sacrosanct.

There is the one exception and that is one must not yell “fire” in a theater unnecessarily, and in similar situations.

But the reason for this exception is its effect on the audience, who may well make a rush towards the exits, create a jam and cause many deaths, all of which has happened in the past, allowing this exception to the law to be written for the safety of the people.

Today, there are a number of yellings in public that ultimately have the same or similar effects on the public, but are not recognized for their lethal nature in our laws. This is due to the nature of these yellings being at first hand seemingly non-lethal, and they are not uniformly lethal in the long run depending upon the individuals ability to assimilate, rationalize, and reject what they heard.

Then too, the lethality involved is not necessarily that of the listeners themselves, but of third parties nearby that had nothing to do with the yellings. This is based upon what actions some of the listeners may take during or after the fact of the yellings as a direct influence of what they heard, or thought they heard.

This brings up the concept of the charismatic leader whose very words are commands to his followers. There are many examples of such people to cite, notably Hitler, Genghis Kan, and James Jones, as instances. Each of these leaders ordered their people to die for them, and they did, in droves.

But today, we have leaders and followers of great dedication too. They are yelling at us ideas, slogans, and precepts that quite a few of our people listen to unaware of the ultimate consequences that would follow should these wannabe charismatic souls achieve power over us.
There are quite a few of them, some even in our government right now.

Their power must come from a shift in our government structure of devastating import, and it begins with convincing enough of us that they have the right solution to our problems. It begins with the idea of Socialism is the cure for unemployment, for reducing the power of major corporations, for taxing the rich, and for solving our service, healthcare and infrastructure deficits all in one big swoop.

Of course this does not work

So the next step is to nationalize all of our industry to turn their profits into revenue for the state to spend as they wish. Control of the industries means control of the jobs, and control of the products and their distribution.
The only proper label for this form of government is Marxist C*******m.

And then the pogroms start. You are a good Marxist or you will be imprisoned or shot. You may be shot anyway because someone in power didn't like you.

Our society ends up with c*******t leaders and their helpers, a relatively strong military, a myriad of Marxist followers, prisons full of dissenters, and a whole lot of dead people.

And it all began years ago when we allowed the Marxists, fellow travelers, and others the freedom of speech to sell their poisonous ideas to an unsuspecting and naive public.

We are thus hoist by our own [free speech] petard.

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Jan 26, 2024 06:52:51   #
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manning5me wrote:
Under the American Constitution one can practice free speech. This has always meant that really good, really bad, and even really nasty ideas could be cast into the public discourse. Really nasty ideas using the most reprehensible language is allowed. Yes, free speech is sacrosanct.

There is the one exception and that is one must not yell “fire” in a theater unnecessarily, and in similar situations.

But the reason for this exception is its effect on the audience, who may well make a rush towards the exits, create a jam and cause many deaths, all of which has happened in the past, allowing this exception to the law to be written for the safety of the people.

Today, there are a number of yellings in public that ultimately have the same or similar effects on the public, but are not recognized for their lethal nature in our laws. This is due to the nature of these yellings being at first hand seemingly non-lethal, and they are not uniformly lethal in the long run depending upon the individuals ability to assimilate, rationalize, and reject what they heard.

Then too, the lethality involved is not necessarily that of the listeners themselves, but of third parties nearby that had nothing to do with the yellings. This is based upon what actions some of the listeners may take during or after the fact of the yellings as a direct influence of what they heard, or thought they heard.

This brings up the concept of the charismatic leader whose very words are commands to his followers. There are many examples of such people to cite, notably Hitler, Genghis Kan, and James Jones, as instances. Each of these leaders ordered their people to die for them, and they did, in droves.

But today, we have leaders and followers of great dedication too. They are yelling at us ideas, slogans, and precepts that quite a few of our people listen to unaware of the ultimate consequences that would follow should these wannabe charismatic souls achieve power over us.
There are quite a few of them, some even in our government right now.

Their power must come from a shift in our government structure of devastating import, and it begins with convincing enough of us that they have the right solution to our problems. It begins with the idea of Socialism is the cure for unemployment, for reducing the power of major corporations, for taxing the rich, and for solving our service, healthcare and infrastructure deficits all in one big swoop.

Of course this does not work

So the next step is to nationalize all of our industry to turn their profits into revenue for the state to spend as they wish. Control of the industries means control of the jobs, and control of the products and their distribution.
The only proper label for this form of government is Marxist C*******m.

And then the pogroms start. You are a good Marxist or you will be imprisoned or shot. You may be shot anyway because someone in power didn't like you.

Our society ends up with c*******t leaders and their helpers, a relatively strong military, a myriad of Marxist followers, prisons full of dissenters, and a whole lot of dead people.

And it all began years ago when we allowed the Marxists, fellow travelers, and others the freedom of speech to sell their poisonous ideas to an unsuspecting and naive public.

We are thus hoist by our own [free speech] petard.
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Jan 26, 2024 21:00:38   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
When , we as a nation, turned our backs on the wisdom of the founders of this nation, - simultaneously rejecting the eternal wisdom of He who enlightened them, we ceased to perform our duty to properly forewarn, prepare, educate and innoculate our youth against the tactics of the failed tyrants and their ideologies of the past...

We passively allowed an unsuspecting and naive public to develope. It is past time to educate them... with the Wisdom of the ages, available from only One legitimate source.

manning5me wrote:
Under the American Constitution one can practice free speech. This has always meant that really good, really bad, and even really nasty ideas could be cast into the public discourse. Really nasty ideas using the most reprehensible language is allowed. Yes, free speech is sacrosanct.

There is the one exception and that is one must not yell “fire” in a theater unnecessarily, and in similar situations.

But the reason for this exception is its effect on the audience, who may well make a rush towards the exits, create a jam and cause many deaths, all of which has happened in the past, allowing this exception to the law to be written for the safety of the people.

Today, there are a number of yellings in public that ultimately have the same or similar effects on the public, but are not recognized for their lethal nature in our laws. This is due to the nature of these yellings being at first hand seemingly non-lethal, and they are not uniformly lethal in the long run depending upon the individuals ability to assimilate, rationalize, and reject what they heard.

Then too, the lethality involved is not necessarily that of the listeners themselves, but of third parties nearby that had nothing to do with the yellings. This is based upon what actions some of the listeners may take during or after the fact of the yellings as a direct influence of what they heard, or thought they heard.

This brings up the concept of the charismatic leader whose very words are commands to his followers. There are many examples of such people to cite, notably Hitler, Genghis Kan, and James Jones, as instances. Each of these leaders ordered their people to die for them, and they did, in droves.

But today, we have leaders and followers of great dedication too. They are yelling at us ideas, slogans, and precepts that quite a few of our people listen to unaware of the ultimate consequences that would follow should these wannabe charismatic souls achieve power over us.
There are quite a few of them, some even in our government right now.

Their power must come from a shift in our government structure of devastating import, and it begins with convincing enough of us that they have the right solution to our problems. It begins with the idea of Socialism is the cure for unemployment, for reducing the power of major corporations, for taxing the rich, and for solving our service, healthcare and infrastructure deficits all in one big swoop.

Of course this does not work

So the next step is to nationalize all of our industry to turn their profits into revenue for the state to spend as they wish. Control of the industries means control of the jobs, and control of the products and their distribution.
The only proper label for this form of government is Marxist C*******m.

And then the pogroms start. You are a good Marxist or you will be imprisoned or shot. You may be shot anyway because someone in power didn't like you.

Our society ends up with c*******t leaders and their helpers, a relatively strong military, a myriad of Marxist followers, prisons full of dissenters, and a whole lot of dead people.

And it all began years ago when we allowed the Marxists, fellow travelers, and others the freedom of speech to sell their poisonous ideas to an unsuspecting and naive public.

We are thus hoist by our own [free speech] petard.
Under the American Constitution one can practice f... (show quote)

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