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Fact check: Trump makes false claims in New Hampshire victory speech
Daniel Dale
CNN — none
Former President Donald Trump made several false claims in a speech Tuesday night after CNN and other media outlets projected that he would win the Republican p**********l primary in New Hampshire.
CNN also watched rival candidate Nikki Haley’s Tuesday night speech in New Hampshire; Haley’s claims were either accurate or too general to fact check. Here is a fact check of some of Trump’s assertions.
The 2020 e******n
Trump repeated some of his familiar lies about the 2020 p**********l e******n.
At one point, he claimed, as he has repeatedly in the past, that “they used C***d to c***t.” At another point, he claimed that in addition to winning in 2016, “we also won in 2020 – by more. And we did much better in 2020 than we did in 2016.” He dismissively said, “But as they said, we lost by a whisker.”
Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. He lost the 2020 e******n fair and square to Joe Biden, by a 306 to 232 margin in the E*******l College, and also lost New Hampshire in that e******n. There remains no evidence of any fraud even close to widespread enough to have changed the outcome in any state.
Democrats and taxes
Trump Tuesday night said, “Do they h**e our country? They must h**e our country. Because there’s no other reason that they can be doing the things they do. Take a look – the taxes, they want to raise your taxes times four.”
Facts First: This is false. Neither Biden nor other top Democrats are proposing anything close to quadrupling people’s taxes.
CNN previously fact-checked a similar Trump claim that “they want to double, triple everything.”
Howard Gleckman, senior fellow in the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center at the Urban Institute think tank, said in a November email: “I don’t know what ‘they want to double, triple everything’ means. But if he’s suggesting that Biden would ‘double, triple’ federal income taxes, he’s just making up numbers. There is no evidence to support that claim.”
Gleckman said his organization’s analysis of Biden’s budget proposal for fiscal 2024, which included his most recent tax plan, found that the major tax provisions would “would raise taxes by an average of $2,290, or reduce taxable income by 2.3 percent.”
General e******ns in New Hampshire
Trump claimed that he has always won the state – not only in Republican primaries but in general e******ns.
“You know we won New Hampshire three times now three. We win it every time. We win the primary. We win the generals. We won it and it’s a very, very special place to me.” Trump said.
Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. He lost New Hampshire to Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the 2016 general e******n and to Democratic candidate Joe Biden in the 2020 general e******n, though he did win the Republican primary each time.
Primary v**ers
Criticizing Republican New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a supporter of Haley, Trump said that because of Sununu’s incompetence, “in the Republican primary, they accepted Democrats to v**e. In fact, I think they had 4,000 Democrats – Democrats before October 6 – they already v**ed. Now, they’re only v****g because they want to make me look as bad as possible.”
Facts First: Trump’s claims are misleading at best. People registered as Democrats were not allowed to v**e in New Hampshire’s Republican primary. Only registered Republicans and independents (people registered as “undeclared”) were allowed to cast b****ts in that primary. While it’s true that nearly 4,000 people who had been registered as Democrats switched their affiliation to either undeclared or Republican by October 6, the last day to switch in time to potentially cast a b****t in the GOP primary, it’s not yet clear how many of these people actually ended up v****g. And it’s important to note that New Hampshire made its primaries open to independents decades before Sununu became governor in 2017.
Also, while Trump was complaining about people formerly registered as Democrats being permitted to v**e in the Republican primary, it is standard for states to allow people to switch affiliations by a certain date in order to participate in another party’s primary – and some states have switching deadlines closer to an e******n day than New Hampshire does. In Trump’s state of Florida, to name one, v**ers can switch from Democratic to Republican by February 20 and cast a b****t in the Republican primary in the early v****g window that begins less than three weeks later or in person a month later on the March 19 e******n day. (Unlike in New Hampshire, independents can’t cast Republican primary b****ts there.)
XXX
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TJKMO wrote:
Fact check: Trump makes false claims in New Hampshire victory speech
Daniel Dale
CNN — none
Former President Donald Trump made several false claims in a speech Tuesday night after CNN and other media outlets projected that he would win the Republican p**********l primary in New Hampshire.
CNN also watched rival candidate Nikki Haley’s Tuesday night speech in New Hampshire; Haley’s claims were either accurate or too general to fact check. Here is a fact check of some of Trump’s assertions.
The 2020 e******n
Trump repeated some of his familiar lies about the 2020 p**********l e******n.
At one point, he claimed, as he has repeatedly in the past, that “they used C***d to c***t.” At another point, he claimed that in addition to winning in 2016, “we also won in 2020 – by more. And we did much better in 2020 than we did in 2016.” He dismissively said, “But as they said, we lost by a whisker.”
Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. He lost the 2020 e******n fair and square to Joe Biden, by a 306 to 232 margin in the E*******l College, and also lost New Hampshire in that e******n. There remains no evidence of any fraud even close to widespread enough to have changed the outcome in any state.
Democrats and taxes
Trump Tuesday night said, “Do they h**e our country? They must h**e our country. Because there’s no other reason that they can be doing the things they do. Take a look – the taxes, they want to raise your taxes times four.”
Facts First: This is false. Neither Biden nor other top Democrats are proposing anything close to quadrupling people’s taxes.
CNN previously fact-checked a similar Trump claim that “they want to double, triple everything.”
Howard Gleckman, senior fellow in the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center at the Urban Institute think tank, said in a November email: “I don’t know what ‘they want to double, triple everything’ means. But if he’s suggesting that Biden would ‘double, triple’ federal income taxes, he’s just making up numbers. There is no evidence to support that claim.”
Gleckman said his organization’s analysis of Biden’s budget proposal for fiscal 2024, which included his most recent tax plan, found that the major tax provisions would “would raise taxes by an average of $2,290, or reduce taxable income by 2.3 percent.”
General e******ns in New Hampshire
Trump claimed that he has always won the state – not only in Republican primaries but in general e******ns.
“You know we won New Hampshire three times now three. We win it every time. We win the primary. We win the generals. We won it and it’s a very, very special place to me.” Trump said.
Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. He lost New Hampshire to Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the 2016 general e******n and to Democratic candidate Joe Biden in the 2020 general e******n, though he did win the Republican primary each time.
Primary v**ers
Criticizing Republican New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a supporter of Haley, Trump said that because of Sununu’s incompetence, “in the Republican primary, they accepted Democrats to v**e. In fact, I think they had 4,000 Democrats – Democrats before October 6 – they already v**ed. Now, they’re only v****g because they want to make me look as bad as possible.”
Facts First: Trump’s claims are misleading at best. People registered as Democrats were not allowed to v**e in New Hampshire’s Republican primary. Only registered Republicans and independents (people registered as “undeclared”) were allowed to cast b****ts in that primary. While it’s true that nearly 4,000 people who had been registered as Democrats switched their affiliation to either undeclared or Republican by October 6, the last day to switch in time to potentially cast a b****t in the GOP primary, it’s not yet clear how many of these people actually ended up v****g. And it’s important to note that New Hampshire made its primaries open to independents decades before Sununu became governor in 2017.
Also, while Trump was complaining about people formerly registered as Democrats being permitted to v**e in the Republican primary, it is standard for states to allow people to switch affiliations by a certain date in order to participate in another party’s primary – and some states have switching deadlines closer to an e******n day than New Hampshire does. In Trump’s state of Florida, to name one, v**ers can switch from Democratic to Republican by February 20 and cast a b****t in the Republican primary in the early v****g window that begins less than three weeks later or in person a month later on the March 19 e******n day. (Unlike in New Hampshire, independents can’t cast Republican primary b****ts there.)
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Consider the source, duh!
TJKMO
Loc: Bicycle Heaven
XXX wrote:
Consider the source, duh!
Yes.
Trump is a serial liar.
He always has been even before politics.
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
TJKMO wrote:
Yes.
Trump is a serial liar.
He always has been even before politics.
That don't ruin the fact he was a better president. Oh for world peace again.
TJKMO
Loc: Bicycle Heaven
XXX wrote:
That don't ruin the fact he was a better president. Oh for world peace again.
Character Matters.
The USA is not at war.
When was it declared if you think it is?
We were still fighting in Afghanistan under trump.
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
TJKMO wrote:
Character Matters.
The USA is not at war.
When was it declared if you think it is?
We were still fighting in Afghanistan under trump.
There are airstrikes in yemen. Battles in red sea. I never said it was declared. The world does not respect Biden.
TJKMO
Loc: Bicycle Heaven
XXX wrote:
There are airstrikes in yemen. Battles in red sea. I never said it was declared. The world does not respect Biden.
Prove your accusation with verifiable documentation!
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
TJKMO wrote:
Prove your accusation with verifiable documentation!
OMG you're ignorant it's all over this forum. 😂
TJKMO
Loc: Bicycle Heaven
XXX wrote:
OMG you're ignorant it's all over this forum. 😂
Pardon me?
Why are you making this about me?
Stay on topic.
TJKMO
Loc: Bicycle Heaven
XXX wrote:
I am on topic. 🙄
I am Not the topic being discussed.
You are highly conflicted if you FEEL I am the topic.
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
I feel like i got away from his original topic but then again i was pointing out why i'll v**e for trump even if his memory isn't the best. It's still better than Bidens.
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