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Jan 12, 2015 06:41:42   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
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Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits on Their First Day in Power


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Dear Americans: this is what you got when you skipped out on v****g last November:


Republican opponents of Social Security have not wasted even a single day in their plan to dismantle Social Security brick by brick. What should be a dry, mundane exercise -- the adoption of new rules by the newly convening House of Representatives -- has turned into a stealth attack on America's working families.
As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:


The House on Tuesday passed legislation laying out parliamentary rules for the year. The bill included a little-noticed provision blocking Congress from shifting funds to prevent a 2016 shortfall in Social Security's disability insurance program.
The Social Security Administration's actuaries have projected that the disability insurance program's trust fund will run out of money next year, resulting in a 20 percent benefit reduction for nearly 11 million Americans.
Because the Republicans will never agree to raise taxes (specifically on high-income earners or corporations), what that does is set the stage for benefit cuts in the coming two years. Because the disability trust fund is set to run dry next year, allowing the program to collect payroll taxes sufficient to pay only about 80% of benefits. In real-world terms, that means those eleven million people who receive SS Disability will likely see their benefits cut as much as 20% by the Republican Party.
Such reallocations are part of the normal course of administering the Social Security Trust fund and have occurred eleven times since 1968. There is nothing "unusual" about the reallocation procedure. What is unusual is a Congress occupied by fanatics who couldn't care less about the needs of ordinary Americans:


Reallocating the income, however, would keep both the old-age and disability programs solvent until at least 2033, giving Congress plenty of time to assess the programs' needs and work out a long-term fix.
Advocates for Social Security are nothing less than horrified at what the Republicans have done, and what it portends for the future of Social Security under a GOP Congress:

Social Security advocates are almost universally aghast at the change. "It is hard to believe that there is any purpose to this unprecedented change to House rules," wrote Max Richtman, president of the committee, in an open letter Tuesday, "other than to cut benefits for Americans who have worked hard all their lives, paid into Social Security and rely on their Social Security benefits, including Disability Insurance, in order to survive."
The rule change reflects the burgeoning demonization of disability recipients, a trend we've reported on in the past. it's been fomented by conservative Republicans and abetted by sloppy reporting by institutions such as NPR and "60 Minutes."
The "demonization" of those receiving Disability payments is part of the broader overall GOP strategy of shifting money out of Social Security to pay for the Republicans' main priority--tax cuts for corporations and multi-millionaires. It's telling that both the new rule effectively preventing reallocation of Social Security Funds was included in the same piece of legislation that favorably altered the way the GOP's tax cuts for the rich can be scored and accounted for in the budget process. Either way, it boils down to the Republicans declaring war on middle class Americans, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest.
And anyone who doesn't think this sets the stage for further cuts to retirees is whistling past the graveyard:

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) sharply criticized the measure in a Tuesday statement that argued shifting Social Security funds from retirement insurance to disability insurance has been routine in the past.
“Reallocation has never been controversial, but detractors working to privatize Social Security will do anything to manufacture a crisis out of a routine administrative function,” Brown said. "Rather than solve the short-term problems facing the Social Security Disability program as we have in the past, Republicans want to set the stage to cut benefits for seniors and disabled Americans."
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What a silly concept. Gutting something that has always been gutted and should have never been started, social program that it is. Oppressive governments can seldom do anything right, and SS was never right and should have never been instituted, c*******t philosophy was apparently in vogue at the time.

Message to the c*******ts: government does not own the people like some folks own pets. No one's body belongs to government. No one's intellect belongs to government. No one's soul belongs to government. That is why each of us has a body, a brain, and a soul..........because each of us is responsible for our own bodies, intellect, and soul. Government has absolutely NO authority over my body, soul, or intellect, nor any other citizen. It is not responsible for ANY ONE.

It IS responsible for protecting the nation from foreign invasion, which it has famously failed at. It is responsible for being fiscally responsible....which it has failed miserably at. It is responsible for following the Constitution which it seems none of them has ever read. Who in hell wants an incompetent overbearing GOVERNment dictating to them when it is so totally incompetent?

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Jan 12, 2015 08:20:22   #
stevenkalka
 
As far as the Disability insurance, benefits paid for psychological reasons are exploding. Maybe we should require that all these new recognized conditions cannot be officialized without sufficient revenue, and not just reallocate it from the old age portion.

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Jan 12, 2015 09:01:59   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
Glaucon wrote:
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits on Their First Day in Power


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DartagnanFollow .




333 Comments / 333 New
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Dear Americans: this is what you got when you skipped out on v****g last November:


Republican opponents of Social Security have not wasted even a single day in their plan to dismantle Social Security brick by brick. What should be a dry, mundane exercise -- the adoption of new rules by the newly convening House of Representatives -- has turned into a stealth attack on America's working families.
As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:


The House on Tuesday passed legislation laying out parliamentary rules for the year. The bill included a little-noticed provision blocking Congress from shifting funds to prevent a 2016 shortfall in Social Security's disability insurance program.
The Social Security Administration's actuaries have projected that the disability insurance program's trust fund will run out of money next year, resulting in a 20 percent benefit reduction for nearly 11 million Americans.
Because the Republicans will never agree to raise taxes (specifically on high-income earners or corporations), what that does is set the stage for benefit cuts in the coming two years. Because the disability trust fund is set to run dry next year, allowing the program to collect payroll taxes sufficient to pay only about 80% of benefits. In real-world terms, that means those eleven million people who receive SS Disability will likely see their benefits cut as much as 20% by the Republican Party.
Such reallocations are part of the normal course of administering the Social Security Trust fund and have occurred eleven times since 1968. There is nothing "unusual" about the reallocation procedure. What is unusual is a Congress occupied by fanatics who couldn't care less about the needs of ordinary Americans:


Reallocating the income, however, would keep both the old-age and disability programs solvent until at least 2033, giving Congress plenty of time to assess the programs' needs and work out a long-term fix.
Advocates for Social Security are nothing less than horrified at what the Republicans have done, and what it portends for the future of Social Security under a GOP Congress:

Social Security advocates are almost universally aghast at the change. "It is hard to believe that there is any purpose to this unprecedented change to House rules," wrote Max Richtman, president of the committee, in an open letter Tuesday, "other than to cut benefits for Americans who have worked hard all their lives, paid into Social Security and rely on their Social Security benefits, including Disability Insurance, in order to survive."
The rule change reflects the burgeoning demonization of disability recipients, a trend we've reported on in the past. it's been fomented by conservative Republicans and abetted by sloppy reporting by institutions such as NPR and "60 Minutes."
The "demonization" of those receiving Disability payments is part of the broader overall GOP strategy of shifting money out of Social Security to pay for the Republicans' main priority--tax cuts for corporations and multi-millionaires. It's telling that both the new rule effectively preventing reallocation of Social Security Funds was included in the same piece of legislation that favorably altered the way the GOP's tax cuts for the rich can be scored and accounted for in the budget process. Either way, it boils down to the Republicans declaring war on middle class Americans, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest.
And anyone who doesn't think this sets the stage for further cuts to retirees is whistling past the graveyard:

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) sharply criticized the measure in a Tuesday statement that argued shifting Social Security funds from retirement insurance to disability insurance has been routine in the past.
“Reallocation has never been controversial, but detractors working to privatize Social Security will do anything to manufacture a crisis out of a routine administrative function,” Brown said. "Rather than solve the short-term problems facing the Social Security Disability program as we have in the past, Republicans want to set the stage to cut benefits for seniors and disabled Americans."
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits o... (show quote)

IN A PIGS ASS

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Jan 12, 2015 09:04:50   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
son of witless wrote:
SS and Medicare will go bankrupt and Democrats will find a way to blame Republicans. It is like the tide coming in. Predictable as Obama lying when in front of a microphone.


Werent the LIB/DEM C****Ecrats , the ones who were the First to start STEALING said Funds from that Supposed SS LOCK BOX , that They said would NEVER be touched ?? A few Decades ago , if Im not mistaken !!! ???

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Jan 12, 2015 10:39:35   #
Ve'hoe
 
NO,,,,
Obama took $500 billion from SS to set up Obamacare,,,, then the media and he began a "GRUBER" campaign to deny it,,,, then the actual GRUBER came out and said it!! And said they lied about putting it together, and in the end the money is still gone..... but since it came out of Dr's payments,, evil rich guys,, its ok to rob them,,,, even though the govt still took SS from them, and you, and spent it even though it is illegal..

You know, same old obama sh-t

shipfitter wrote:
Werent the LIB/DEM C****Ecrats , the ones who were the First to start STEALING said Funds from that Supposed SS LOCK BOX , that They said would NEVER be touched ?? A few Decades ago , if Im not mistaken !!! ???

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Jan 12, 2015 10:46:38   #
vernon
 
Glaucon wrote:
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits on Their First Day in Power


by
DartagnanFollow .




333 Comments / 333 New
.


Dear Americans: this is what you got when you skipped out on v****g last November:


Republican opponents of Social Security have not wasted even a single day in their plan to dismantle Social Security brick by brick. What should be a dry, mundane exercise -- the adoption of new rules by the newly convening House of Representatives -- has turned into a stealth attack on America's working families.
As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:


The House on Tuesday passed legislation laying out parliamentary rules for the year. The bill included a little-noticed provision blocking Congress from shifting funds to prevent a 2016 shortfall in Social Security's disability insurance program.
The Social Security Administration's actuaries have projected that the disability insurance program's trust fund will run out of money next year, resulting in a 20 percent benefit reduction for nearly 11 million Americans.
Because the Republicans will never agree to raise taxes (specifically on high-income earners or corporations), what that does is set the stage for benefit cuts in the coming two years. Because the disability trust fund is set to run dry next year, allowing the program to collect payroll taxes sufficient to pay only about 80% of benefits. In real-world terms, that means those eleven million people who receive SS Disability will likely see their benefits cut as much as 20% by the Republican Party.
Such reallocations are part of the normal course of administering the Social Security Trust fund and have occurred eleven times since 1968. There is nothing "unusual" about the reallocation procedure. What is unusual is a Congress occupied by fanatics who couldn't care less about the needs of ordinary Americans:


Reallocating the income, however, would keep both the old-age and disability programs solvent until at least 2033, giving Congress plenty of time to assess the programs' needs and work out a long-term fix.
Advocates for Social Security are nothing less than horrified at what the Republicans have done, and what it portends for the future of Social Security under a GOP Congress:

Social Security advocates are almost universally aghast at the change. "It is hard to believe that there is any purpose to this unprecedented change to House rules," wrote Max Richtman, president of the committee, in an open letter Tuesday, "other than to cut benefits for Americans who have worked hard all their lives, paid into Social Security and rely on their Social Security benefits, including Disability Insurance, in order to survive."
The rule change reflects the burgeoning demonization of disability recipients, a trend we've reported on in the past. it's been fomented by conservative Republicans and abetted by sloppy reporting by institutions such as NPR and "60 Minutes."
The "demonization" of those receiving Disability payments is part of the broader overall GOP strategy of shifting money out of Social Security to pay for the Republicans' main priority--tax cuts for corporations and multi-millionaires. It's telling that both the new rule effectively preventing reallocation of Social Security Funds was included in the same piece of legislation that favorably altered the way the GOP's tax cuts for the rich can be scored and accounted for in the budget process. Either way, it boils down to the Republicans declaring war on middle class Americans, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest.
And anyone who doesn't think this sets the stage for further cuts to retirees is whistling past the graveyard:

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) sharply criticized the measure in a Tuesday statement that argued shifting Social Security funds from retirement insurance to disability insurance has been routine in the past.
“Reallocation has never been controversial, but detractors working to privatize Social Security will do anything to manufacture a crisis out of a routine administrative function,” Brown said. "Rather than solve the short-term problems facing the Social Security Disability program as we have in the past, Republicans want to set the stage to cut benefits for seniors and disabled Americans."
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits o... (show quote)


this is just a demorat ploy to start an attack on republicans,just like the attack on the kock brothers were attacked by reid ,and the lie about romney not paying taxes,this is the way demorats operate.
GLOCON TALK ABOUT OBAMA NOT WANTING KEYSTONE BECAUSE ONE OF OBAMAS BUNDLERS WANTS TO BUILD HIS OWN PIPE LINE.

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Jan 12, 2015 12:53:36   #
gnmn
 
If the dems are so concerned about ss disability why didn't they do something about it before the reps came to power. I'll tell you why, they will use this to gain controll in the next e******ns. That makes them just as guilty as the reps !!!!!!!!!!

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Jan 12, 2015 13:19:06   #
Molly2399 Loc: Ohio
 
Social Security was already gutted by the Dems. What a crock of bull.

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Jan 12, 2015 14:37:25   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Glaucon wrote:
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits on Their First Day in Power


by
DartagnanFollow .




333 Comments / 333 New
.


Dear Americans: this is what you got when you skipped out on v****g last November:


Republican opponents of Social Security have not wasted even a single day in their plan to dismantle Social Security brick by brick. What should be a dry, mundane exercise -- the adoption of new rules by the newly convening House of Representatives -- has turned into a stealth attack on America's working families.
As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:


The House on Tuesday passed legislation laying out parliamentary rules for the year. The bill included a little-noticed provision blocking Congress from shifting funds to prevent a 2016 shortfall in Social Security's disability insurance program.
The Social Security Administration's actuaries have projected that the disability insurance program's trust fund will run out of money next year, resulting in a 20 percent benefit reduction for nearly 11 million Americans.
Because the Republicans will never agree to raise taxes (specifically on high-income earners or corporations), what that does is set the stage for benefit cuts in the coming two years. Because the disability trust fund is set to run dry next year, allowing the program to collect payroll taxes sufficient to pay only about 80% of benefits. In real-world terms, that means those eleven million people who receive SS Disability will likely see their benefits cut as much as 20% by the Republican Party.
Such reallocations are part of the normal course of administering the Social Security Trust fund and have occurred eleven times since 1968. There is nothing "unusual" about the reallocation procedure. What is unusual is a Congress occupied by fanatics who couldn't care less about the needs of ordinary Americans:


Reallocating the income, however, would keep both the old-age and disability programs solvent until at least 2033, giving Congress plenty of time to assess the programs' needs and work out a long-term fix.
Advocates for Social Security are nothing less than horrified at what the Republicans have done, and what it portends for the future of Social Security under a GOP Congress:

Social Security advocates are almost universally aghast at the change. "It is hard to believe that there is any purpose to this unprecedented change to House rules," wrote Max Richtman, president of the committee, in an open letter Tuesday, "other than to cut benefits for Americans who have worked hard all their lives, paid into Social Security and rely on their Social Security benefits, including Disability Insurance, in order to survive."
The rule change reflects the burgeoning demonization of disability recipients, a trend we've reported on in the past. it's been fomented by conservative Republicans and abetted by sloppy reporting by institutions such as NPR and "60 Minutes."
The "demonization" of those receiving Disability payments is part of the broader overall GOP strategy of shifting money out of Social Security to pay for the Republicans' main priority--tax cuts for corporations and multi-millionaires. It's telling that both the new rule effectively preventing reallocation of Social Security Funds was included in the same piece of legislation that favorably altered the way the GOP's tax cuts for the rich can be scored and accounted for in the budget process. Either way, it boils down to the Republicans declaring war on middle class Americans, to pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest.
And anyone who doesn't think this sets the stage for further cuts to retirees is whistling past the graveyard:

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) sharply criticized the measure in a Tuesday statement that argued shifting Social Security funds from retirement insurance to disability insurance has been routine in the past.
“Reallocation has never been controversial, but detractors working to privatize Social Security will do anything to manufacture a crisis out of a routine administrative function,” Brown said. "Rather than solve the short-term problems facing the Social Security Disability program as we have in the past, Republicans want to set the stage to cut benefits for seniors and disabled Americans."
Republicans Move To Gut Social Security Benefits o... (show quote)


The only way that I can see Social Security running out of money by 2016, is if the criminals in office pull an L.B.J.!

SEMPER FI

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Jan 12, 2015 14:52:35   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
Molly2399 wrote:
Social Security was already gutted by the Dems. What a crock of bull.


They started Back in the 70s , didn't they Molly ???

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Jan 12, 2015 14:53:08   #
son of witless
 
shipfitter wrote:
Werent the LIB/DEM C****Ecrats , the ones who were the First to start STEALING said Funds from that Supposed SS LOCK BOX , that They said would NEVER be touched ?? A few Decades ago , if Im not mistaken !!! ???


There has never been or ever will be a lock box for government revenues. Many taxes are collected in anticipation of a need far down the road. SS is the best example. So while that money piles up and won't be needed until the currant bunch of crooks is out of office, it will be robbed for other things. Gasoline taxes diverted to mass t***sit are another. Then later when roads and bridges are collapsing they raise the taxes. Since 1993 16% of fuel taxes have been stolen for mass t***sit. Some money gets stolen for bicycle paths.

Never trust a politician not to steal money for pet projects.

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Jan 12, 2015 15:03:19   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
son of witless wrote:
There has never been or ever will be a lock box for government revenues. Many taxes are collected in anticipation of a need far down the road. SS is the best example. So while that money piles up and won't be needed until the currant bunch of crooks is out of office, it will be robbed for other things. Gasoline taxes diverted to mass t***sit are another. Then later when roads and bridges are collapsing they raise the taxes. Since 1993 16% of fuel taxes have been stolen for mass t***sit. Some money gets stolen for bicycle paths.

Never trust a politician not to steal money for pet projects.
There has never been or ever will be a lock box fo... (show quote)


I know that . It was the DEMONICrats , who Called it a Lock Box

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Jan 12, 2015 15:16:10   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
shipfitter wrote:
They started Back in the 70s , didn't they Molly ???


My recollection is that it was never a true set aside, but was within the general budget, which is gutted each and every year by the incompetents we are allowed by the DNC and RNC to "elect"!

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Jan 12, 2015 15:18:36   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
Tasine wrote:
My recollection is that it was never a true set aside, but was within the general budget, which is gutted each and every year by the incompetents we are allowed by the DNC and RNC to "elect"!


:thumbup:

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Jan 12, 2015 16:18:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
shipfitter wrote:
I know that . It was the DEMONICrats , who Called it a Lock Box



Shipfitter,

As in so many things, this falls mainly onto Ronald Reagan evil administration. You will not accept this, but these excerpts point out the lying intent of Reagan, his administration and Greenspan.

Ron Reagan, remember his name, one of the most evil men ever to hold office...



Ronald Reagan was one of the most popular presidents in modern history. As a former Hollywood actor, he had an uncommon degree of charisma. The conservatives absolutely loved Reagan for his efforts to reduce the size of government, but most liberals h**ed him with a passion. Reagan is still revered by a lot of Americans. This reverence for Ronald Reagan helps to explain how he was able to fool most of the American people to a degree unparalleled by any other modern president. With the help of Alan Greenspan, Reagan pulled off one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against the American people.

Instead of being a proud day for America, April 20, 1983, has become a day of shame. The Social Security Amendments of 1983 laid the foundation for 30-years of federal embezzlement of Social Security money in order to use the money to pay for wars, tax cuts and other government programs. The payroll tax hike of 1983 generated a total of $2.7 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue. This surplus revenue was supposed to be saved and invested in marketable U.S. Treasury bonds that would be held in the trust fund until the baby boomers began to retire in about 2010. But not one dime of that money went to Social Security.

The 1983 legislation was sold to the public, and to the Congress, as a long-term fix for Social Security. The payroll tax hike was designed to generate large Social Security surpluses for 30 years, which would be set aside to cover the increased cost of paying benefits when the boomers retired.

Let’s have a look at the events leading up to this proposal. Reagan and the government had big financial problems. Supply-side economics was not working like Reagan had promised. Instead of the lower tax rates generating more revenue as the supply-siders claimed would happen, there was a dramatic drop in revenue. Something had to be done, so Ronald Reagan set for himself a new mission. He would have to figure out a way to get the additional revenue he needed from another source.

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