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Where are we in the Middle going?
Jan 10, 2015 12:17:29   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
The Middle class that has to pay more than their fair share to hold the Nation together.

Now the middle is shrinking.

All the while we here who I feel are mostly Middle Class can not find or agree on what is truly needed to protect our self's.

The few at the top suck to much out of the system leaving to many to fall by the way side. Who then need help just to have basic support.

More from the Middle are falling lower on the economic scale.
We need to stop what is happening soon or 85% or more of the people will just be living day to day & that means more like Us from the middle will be living day to day.

Some time ago some one said of in America 85% or the people had zero assets or had minus assets.

To many of us are living a dream that just is not true.
We are not as well off as we think or told we are.

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Jan 10, 2015 12:52:16   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
The Middle class that has to pay more than their fair share to hold the Nation together.

Now the middle is shrinking.

All the while we here who I feel are mostly Middle Class can not find or agree on what is truly needed to protect our self's.

The few at the top suck to much out of the system leaving to many to fall by the way side. Who then need help just to have basic support.

More from the Middle are falling lower on the economic scale.
We need to stop what is happening soon or 85% or more of the people will just be living day to day & that means more like Us from the middle will be living day to day.

Some time ago some one said of in America 85% or the people had zero assets or had minus assets.

To many of us are living a dream that just is not true.
We are not as well off as we think or told we are.
The Middle class that has to pay more than their f... (show quote)


...if your fair share is: what? What is fair? If you make less than $50K a year and have a small family (2 children), it isn't possible to save for your retirement...mathematically inconceivable. That's why 50% of Americans have no assets, it seems like everyone gets in line for dead jobs, divorce, and no plans, so how does one get ahead if you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

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Jan 10, 2015 14:01:05   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Well one thing that needs a close look at is how the cost of a company here in the US takes most of their cost of doing business off their taxes here in the US & keeps most of their profits over seas in tax free countries.

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Jan 10, 2015 15:40:11   #
Pulfnick Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
Floyd Brown wrote:


The few at the top suck to much out of the system leaving to many to fall by the way side. Who then need help just to have basic support.



This is radical l*****t nonsense, and absolutely bassakwards. The most wealthy do NOT suck anything out of the system, nor is there any mechanism by which they can. Nobody who has more than you is a threat to you, nor did they get more than you by stealing what should have been yours. The wealthy are instrumental in carrying the rest of the population.

As of 2012,

Top 1% wage earners pay 37% of all taxes
Top 5% >$154,000/yr income) pay 59% of all income tax
Top 5% pay more in income tax than the lower 95% of all earners
Top 10% >$73,000/yr income pay 70% of income taxes
Top 5% pay more in income tax than the lower 95% of all earners


The people at the lower end of the economic scale suck unearned money from the upper half. About 48% of all pay ZERO federal income taxes, so the rest of us have to cover for them. People on welfare (food stamps, ADC, Medicaid, agricultural price supports, etc. are sucking money confiscated from what the rest of us earned and need to support ourselves. That's the problem.

Sometimes it helps to try to identify the real problem, rather than reciting absurd mantras.

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Jan 11, 2015 13:33:59   #
motive power
 
All of these view points are valid to some degree depending on which side of the fence you stand on. What we are overlooking is these vary differences are being used to divide us and make us easy pickens to the new world order headed our way. We as a people better get over our petty BS and get to work before there will be no freedom to disagree!!

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