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Jan 10, 2015 09:21:08   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Stand-by for massive cost increases.

President Obama is now touting a plan to provide 2 years of free community college schooling for the masses. He has taken his message to the official White House website, and to the social media such as Facebook.

It must be borne in mind that from at least as early to 23 September 2011 until at least as late as 20 June 2013, the ObamaCare website at www.healthcare.gov was touting free health care.

via the Wayback Machine

Healthcare costs have, of course, skyrocketed following the passage of the misnamed Affordable Care Act.

Based upon Obama's abysmal track record for large-scale free social benefits programs, future staggering increases in the costs of higher education are quite foreseeable. And if the community colleges look to hire more educational personnel to meet the increased demand for education, the educational institutions will no doubt hire them as adjunct faculty in order to economize on education costs, thereby finding loopholes for denying the new educators education benefits and tax benefits alike.

Until the IRS propounds more definite guidance on the matter, the current Regulations give educational institutions a safe harbor of adding 2.25 hours to each hour of an adjunct faculty member's classroom face time for the purposes of computing hours of service under ObamaCare. This means that even if the Save American Workers Act of 1915, which has just cleared the House of Representatives, becomes law, the free education scheme now proposed by Obama would improve the lot of neither the community college students it purports to educate, nor the new faculty members who would teach them.

Kenneth H. Ryesky is a lawyer who is an Adjunct faculty member at Queens College CUNY. He formerly served as an attorney for the IRS.

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Jan 10, 2015 09:28:57   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JMHO wrote:
Stand-by for massive cost increases.

President Obama is now touting a plan to provide 2 years of free community college schooling for the masses. He has taken his message to the official White House website, and to the social media such as Facebook.

It must be borne in mind that from at least as early to 23 September 2011 until at least as late as 20 June 2013, the ObamaCare website at www.healthcare.gov was touting free health care.

via the Wayback Machine

Healthcare costs have, of course, skyrocketed following the passage of the misnamed Affordable Care Act.

Based upon Obama's abysmal track record for large-scale free social benefits programs, future staggering increases in the costs of higher education are quite foreseeable. And if the community colleges look to hire more educational personnel to meet the increased demand for education, the educational institutions will no doubt hire them as adjunct faculty in order to economize on education costs, thereby finding loopholes for denying the new educators education benefits and tax benefits alike.

Until the IRS propounds more definite guidance on the matter, the current Regulations give educational institutions a safe harbor of adding 2.25 hours to each hour of an adjunct faculty member's classroom face time for the purposes of computing hours of service under ObamaCare. This means that even if the Save American Workers Act of 1915, which has just cleared the House of Representatives, becomes law, the free education scheme now proposed by Obama would improve the lot of neither the community college students it purports to educate, nor the new faculty members who would teach them.

Kenneth H. Ryesky is a lawyer who is an Adjunct faculty member at Queens College CUNY. He formerly served as an attorney for the IRS.
b Stand-by for massive cost increases. /b br br... (show quote)




The true purpose of this most recent Obama scheme is to get more people dependent on the government for all things in their lives. It has nothing to do with education. Just wait and see how quickly he writes an "executive order" to do this. It won't work if the house refuses to finance it but do they have the guts considering they will be blasted as "anti education"?
The new hymn is "All good gifts around us are sent from government above, then thank Obama, oh thank Obama for all his love"

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Jan 10, 2015 09:35:52   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
JMHO wrote:
Stand-by for massive cost increases.

President Obama is now touting a plan to provide 2 years of free community college schooling for the masses. He has taken his message to the official White House website, and to the social media such as Facebook.

It must be borne in mind that from at least as early to 23 September 2011 until at least as late as 20 June 2013, the ObamaCare website at www.healthcare.gov was touting free health care.

via the Wayback Machine

Healthcare costs have, of course, skyrocketed following the passage of the misnamed Affordable Care Act.

Based upon Obama's abysmal track record for large-scale free social benefits programs, future staggering increases in the costs of higher education are quite foreseeable. And if the community colleges look to hire more educational personnel to meet the increased demand for education, the educational institutions will no doubt hire them as adjunct faculty in order to economize on education costs, thereby finding loopholes for denying the new educators education benefits and tax benefits alike.

Until the IRS propounds more definite guidance on the matter, the current Regulations give educational institutions a safe harbor of adding 2.25 hours to each hour of an adjunct faculty member's classroom face time for the purposes of computing hours of service under ObamaCare. This means that even if the Save American Workers Act of 1915, which has just cleared the House of Representatives, becomes law, the free education scheme now proposed by Obama would improve the lot of neither the community college students it purports to educate, nor the new faculty members who would teach them.

Kenneth H. Ryesky is a lawyer who is an Adjunct faculty member at Queens College CUNY. He formerly served as an attorney for the IRS.
b Stand-by for massive cost increases. /b br br... (show quote)


Here is another of Obama's Socialist/C*******t, ideas, that take money from the taxpayers, & distribute it to the "poor!"

Who would keep the Prof's, & Teachers, honest re: to giving grades to students, that would be self promoting to the teachers employment? There is "no oversight" in this administration, & Obama, is running amok, with illegality, un-constitutional activities, & there seems to be no stopping him!

America, has to get rid of Obama, by Impeachment, or wh**ever else can be done, before he completely destroys over 250 years of Democracy, in our Republic!

SENIOR CITIZENS, LIKE MYSELF........ don't have much time left on this earth, & thank God, I won't be here to witness the total crumbling, & destruction of my country......It now is up to this Generation to save American humanity, for generations coming down the road. ***WARNING: You Americans, had better get your s**t right, or your kids, will all be speaking "Farsi", & living under Sharia law!...........& very soon }........{ BETTER BELIEVE THAT }...................... :hunf: :shock: :arrow:

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Jan 10, 2015 09:58:27   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
Where does it end? Free college, why not room and board, free car, free child care? We tax payers can afford it.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:08:32   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Where does it end? Free college, why not room and board, free car, free child care? We tax payers can afford it.


How about the "professors", work for $15.00 an hour.....{minimum wage}.......so many of them don't even go to class.....they just "appoint" a substitute instructor! They {most of them }, are anti Government...{ that pay their salaries }......Anti Patriotism, & have "angst" for American law, & the Constitution!

If they aren't "in the class rooms".......they "don't get paid"!

Look at just 2 of these "professional i***ts: Bill Ayers.....Ward Churchill.......some are "convicted murderers"....that served their time......Are they "good enough" to teach our children?......."NO"!

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Jan 10, 2015 10:11:47   #
bahmer
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Where does it end? Free college, why not room and board, free car, free child care? We tax payers can afford it.


I'm sure he is already considering these plus many more. Hang on to your hat we are entering a whirlwind in these last two years. All hell will be breaking lose.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:20:38   #
L.E. Liesner Loc: New Mexico
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Here is another of Obama's Socialist/C*******t, ideas, that take money from the taxpayers, & distribute it to the "poor!"

Who would keep the Prof's, & Teachers, honest re: to giving grades to students, that would be self promoting to the teachers employment? There is "no oversight" in this administration, & Obama, is running amok, with illegality, un-constitutional activities, & there seems to be no stopping him!

America, has to get rid of Obama, by Impeachment, or wh**ever else can be done, before he completely destroys over 250 years of Democracy, in our Republic!

SENIOR CITIZENS, LIKE MYSELF........ don't have much time left on this earth, & thank God, I won't be here to witness the total crumbling, & destruction of my country......It now is up to this Generation to save American humanity, for generations coming down the road. ***WARNING: You Americans, had better get your s**t right, or your kids, will all be speaking "Farsi", & living under Sharia law!...........& very soon }........{ BETTER BELIEVE THAT }...................... :hunf: :shock: :arrow:
Here is another of Obama's Socialist/C*******t, id... (show quote)


I'm in total agreement with you. It won't be long before this runaway government is going to make it unaffordable to work for a living. If something doesn't happen soon, the good old USA is going to be worse than all the third world nations put to gather.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:30:58   #
Tyster
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
How about the "professors", work for $15.00 an hour.....{minimum wage}.......so many of them don't even go to class.....they just "appoint" a substitute instructor! They {most of them }, are anti Government...{ that pay their salaries }......Anti Patriotism, & have "angst" for American law, & the Constitution!

If they aren't "in the class rooms".......they "don't get paid"!

Look at just 2 of these "professional i***ts: Bill Ayers.....Ward Churchill.......some are "convicted murderers"....that served their time......Are they "good enough" to teach our children?......."NO"!
How about the "professors", work for $15... (show quote)



Why pay them at all? Most are liberal do-gooders anyway... so if they believe in "free" education, they should provide it.

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Jan 10, 2015 13:25:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
bahmer wrote:
I'm sure he is already considering these plus many more. Hang on to your hat we are entering a whirlwind in these last two years. All hell will be breaking lose.


:thumbup:

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Jan 10, 2015 13:26:05   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
bahmer wrote:
I'm sure he is already considering these plus many more. Hang on to your hat we are entering a whirlwind in these last two years. All hell will be breaking lose.


:thumbup:

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Jan 11, 2015 09:05:20   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
L.E. Liesner wrote:
I'm in total agreement with you. It won't be long before this runaway government is going to make it unaffordable to work for a living. If something doesn't happen soon, the good old USA is going to be worse than all the third world nations put to gather.


This is "why" Impeachment is so important.......even if it "stalls" America for 2 years.......America, can pretty much "reverse" most of the damage Obama has caused!

IMPEACH OBAMA, NOW! BEFORE IT IS "TOO" LATE!

GIVE OBAMMY A LEGACY HE CAN FLAUNT IN THE FACE OF SLICK PERVERTED WILLIE!

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Jan 11, 2015 10:11:14   #
roy
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
This is "why" Impeachment is so important.......even if it "stalls" America for 2 years.......America, can pretty much "reverse" most of the damage Obama has caused!

IMPEACH OBAMA, NOW! BEFORE IT IS "TOO" LATE!

GIVE OBAMMY A LEGACY HE CAN FLAUNT IN THE FACE OF SLICK PERVERTED WILLIE!


I live in a state that is republican ,the governor has just come out with a plan for free 2 college, no republicans hollering about that ,we have just about give away all our money to big business to come to our state,no republicans hollering about that,this is money that can't be recovered for 100 years,closed now departments of government turned those jobs over to their buddies now costing more to pay for these jobs to be done,no republicans hollering about that,now they talking about tax increases oh no republicans don't believe in that do they.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:16:22   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
roy wrote:
I live in a state that is republican ,the governor has just come out with a plan for free 2 college, no republicans hollering about that ,we have just about give away all our money to big business to come to our state,no republicans hollering about that,this is money that can't be recovered for 100 years,closed now departments of government turned those jobs over to their buddies now costing more to pay for these jobs to be done,no republicans hollering about that,now they talking about tax increases oh no republicans don't believe in that do they.
I live in a state that is republican ,the governor... (show quote)


I think you should move to Syria! They would probably respect your opinion!

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Jan 11, 2015 10:33:50   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
JMHO wrote:
Stand-by for massive cost increases.

President Obama is now touting a plan to provide 2 years of free community college schooling for the masses. He has taken his message to the official White House website, and to the social media such as Facebook.

It must be borne in mind that from at least as early to 23 September 2011 until at least as late as 20 June 2013, the ObamaCare website at www.healthcare.gov was touting free health care.

via the Wayback Machine

Healthcare costs have, of course, skyrocketed following the passage of the misnamed Affordable Care Act.

Based upon Obama's abysmal track record for large-scale free social benefits programs, future staggering increases in the costs of higher education are quite foreseeable. And if the community colleges look to hire more educational personnel to meet the increased demand for education, the educational institutions will no doubt hire them as adjunct faculty in order to economize on education costs, thereby finding loopholes for denying the new educators education benefits and tax benefits alike.

Until the IRS propounds more definite guidance on the matter, the current Regulations give educational institutions a safe harbor of adding 2.25 hours to each hour of an adjunct faculty member's classroom face time for the purposes of computing hours of service under ObamaCare. This means that even if the Save American Workers Act of 1915, which has just cleared the House of Representatives, becomes law, the free education scheme now proposed by Obama would improve the lot of neither the community college students it purports to educate, nor the new faculty members who would teach them.

Kenneth H. Ryesky is a lawyer who is an Adjunct faculty member at Queens College CUNY. He formerly served as an attorney for the IRS.
b Stand-by for massive cost increases. /b br br... (show quote)



It does not take a rocket scientist to know there is....nothing....free.

I sure do not think it proper for everyone to be responsible for anyone else but themselves. Dipstick democraps love mooching off the labor of others. They are lazy no good rotten scumbags....all of them.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:38:20   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
roy wrote:
I live in a state that is republican ,the governor has just come out with a plan for free 2 college, no republicans hollering about that ,we have just about give away all our money to big business to come to our state,no republicans hollering about that,this is money that can't be recovered for 100 years,closed now departments of government turned those jobs over to their buddies now costing more to pay for these jobs to be done,no republicans hollering about that,now they talking about tax increases oh no republicans don't believe in that do they.
I live in a state that is republican ,the governor... (show quote)


So you live where the elected officials want business to come and provide jobs....sound like what should be a lot better than to have more people on welfare. Perhaps that bothers you and your welfare planned life.

Maybe people in your state should be "holleriing" about getting lazy azz people like you off your azz and finding a job and not being so tied into the welfare systems, right?

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