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Jan 10, 2015 10:20:40   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DennisDee wrote:
No he was not referring to Islamic Extremist. He was referring to those who slander Islam with cartoons etc.

What they are called is Important. Why? Lets take the FT HOOD shooter. Calling it workplace violence ignored his connections to Anwar Awlaki


Believe me, if you "know" the guy had connections to Anwar Awlaki, so does the state dept. As to his comments, here is some more of that speech for context. I might agree with you to a certain extent.

"The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs; workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the men and women that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the h**e we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. ""

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Jan 10, 2015 10:23:17   #
VladimirPee
 
Correct. And he was wrong. He was basically opposing free speech. He justified the actions of the Paris terrorists

He should have said " The FUTURE must Belong to those who are FREE to slander a religion without fear of violence".



nwtk2007 wrote:
Believe me, if you "know" the guy had connections to Anwar Awlaki, so does the state dept. As to his comments, here is some more of that speech for context. I might agree with you to a certain extent.

"The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs; workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the men and women that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the h**e we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. ""
Believe me, if you "know" the guy had co... (show quote)

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Jan 10, 2015 10:27:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DennisDee wrote:
Correct. And he was wrong. He was basically opposing free speech. He justified the actions of the Paris terrorists

He should have said " The FUTURE must Belong to those who are FREE to slander a religion without fear of violence".


He was saying we should not be swayed by the stupidity of those who exercise their free speech. In other words, don't believe all the dribble; don't let it change how we behave or how we treat people.

I don't think there is anything implied that they should not have free speech.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:32:12   #
VladimirPee
 
You are putting words in his mouth. He never said any of those things. He was trying to discourage people from slandering religions. That my friend is everyone's right in a free nation
If I think Mohammed was a p*******e for sex with a 9 year old wife I want the freedom to say so.

nwtk2007 wrote:
He was saying we should not be swayed by the stupidity of those who exercise their free speech. In other words, don't believe all the dribble; don't let it change how we behave or how we treat people.

I don't think there is anything implied that they should not have free speech.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:39:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DennisDee wrote:
You are putting words in his mouth. He never said any of those things. He was trying to discourage people from slandering religions. That my friend is everyone's right in a free nation
If I think Mohammed was a p*******e for sex with a 9 year old wife I want the freedom to say so.


I agree ding dong. That is essentially what I said and the words I "put in his mouth" are exactly the words he spoke. You're as bad as Fox, as if calling it terrorism would change who we react to it or how we might fight it. You just want an out spoken president who goes around talking all tough so you can puff up your chest as if you are better than everyone else.

A dud on Fox this morning was doing exactly that, making the grandiose claim that America is better than everyone else and better than ever has been on the earth. If we are that, we certainly don't have to proclaim it; it would be obvious.

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Jan 10, 2015 10:44:37   #
VladimirPee
 
Sorry but you are the one making things up not FOX.

" He was saying we should not be swayed by the stupidity of those who exercise their free speech."

Bulls**t. He never said any such thing


nwtk2007 wrote:
I agree ding dong. That is essentially what I said and the words I "put in his mouth" are exactly the words he spoke. You're as bad as Fox, as if calling it terrorism would change who we react to it or how we might fight it. You just want an out spoken president who goes around talking all tough so you can puff up your chest as if you are better than everyone else.

A dud on Fox this morning was doing exactly that, making the grandiose claim that America is better than everyone else and better than ever has been on the earth. If we are that, we certainly don't have to proclaim it; it would be obvious.
I agree ding dong. That is essentially what I sai... (show quote)

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Jan 10, 2015 12:09:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DennisDee wrote:
Sorry but you are the one making things up not FOX.

" He was saying we should not be swayed by the stupidity of those who exercise their free speech."

Bulls**t. He never said any such thing


That is what he is implying in addition to wanting people to stop ridiculing religion. I'll bet he says the same thing about Fox "news".

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Jan 10, 2015 15:54:52   #
VladimirPee
 
Anyone who mentions any sort of opposition to free speech scares me. Short of inciting violence


nwtk2007 wrote:
That is what he is implying in addition to wanting people to stop ridiculing religion. I'll bet he says the same thing about Fox "news".

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Jan 10, 2015 16:42:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
DennisDee wrote:
Anyone who mentions any sort of opposition to free speech scares me. Short of inciting violence


He was expressing an opinion. He also has free speech.

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Jan 10, 2015 18:10:50   #
VladimirPee
 
He was expressing an opinion while President of the United States at the UN. Not quite the same


nwtk2007 wrote:
He was expressing an opinion. He also has free speech.

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Jan 10, 2015 18:14:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DennisDee wrote:
Wiretapping Americans is not their job


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 10, 2015 18:14:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DennisDee wrote:
Wiretapping Americans is not their job


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Jan 10, 2015 23:24:34   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
hnealc wrote:
"Hillary, the little witch, has also converted to Islam from all I can find." I don't know if I believe that, but it would stand to reason as they all know that the terrorists are coming to America and they are trying to buy "fire" insurance.

LOL! Wait until they see the Lord and they will find out that they bought the wrong policy! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


Hi there! Tomorrow, hopefully, I will be posting a new topic you will probably want to catch. In the meantime, just a little overview:

Obama and the present administration -- including an incredible number of people in official government positions, the Congress, etc. -- are up to their ears in Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Did you know, for example, that the UN is directing the Mid East Muslim invasion of our country to states of the UN's choice, under the direction of the Hillary Clinton/John Kerry State Dept., Department of Homeland Security's Jeh Johnson, and HHS secretary, Kathleen Sibelius?

Did you know Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, CIA Director John Brennan, and Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel are all believed to be Muslim converts working with the Muslim Brotherhood, as well as Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett, born a Muslim in Iran?

Currently, we have Muslim "Refugee" Resettlement Camps in a huge number of states this country, and more Muslims are being moved into America all the time.

As far as Hillary is concerned, only one source said that "no," Hillary Clinton had not converted to Islam. All of the other sources I researched said, "yes." The most interesting (and shocking) of the sources I researched are "must see" for all concerned Americans and especially for us patriots. Caution: These are real eye-openers! You'll want to check them out.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid...

http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/

Once I get the new topic up -- as I said, hopefully tomorrow afternoon or evening -- you'll understand exactly why it makes sense for Hillary to have converted to Islam. It's all part of the UN/socialist/Islamic and c*******t interlaced agenda for America. Obama was mentored by c*******ts and he's definitely a Muslim. Hillary pretty much "speaks" out of the C*******t Manifesto.

I agree with you. One day all of these t*****rs and imposters will discover that they bought the wrong tickets to their eternal destinations. In the meantime, the American public needs to be exceptionally aware, seek the t***h, and do all we can to try to put a stop to what is happening in America. This country is in grave danger. Thankfully, the Lord has the Master plan, and we know that certain things must come to pass before the Lord returns.

God bless. Shalom

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Jan 10, 2015 23:42:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Danielle wrote:
Hi there! Tomorrow, hopefully, I will be posting a new topic you will probably want to catch. In the meantime, just a little overview:

Obama and the present administration -- including an incredible number of people in official government positions, the Congress, etc. -- are up to their ears in Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Did you know, for example, that the UN is directing the Mid East Muslim invasion of our country to states of the UN's choice, under the direction of the Hillary Clinton/John Kerry State Dept., Department of Homeland Security's Jeh Johnson, and HHS secretary, Kathleen Sibelius?

Did you know Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, CIA Director John Brennan, and Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel are all believed to be Muslim converts working with the Muslim Brotherhood, as well as Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett, born a Muslim in Iran?

Currently, we have Muslim "Refugee" Resettlement Camps in a huge number of states this country, and more Muslims are being moved into America all the time.

As far as Hillary is concerned, only one source said that "no," Hillary Clinton had not converted to Islam. All of the other sources I researched said, "yes." The most interesting (and shocking) of the sources I researched are "must see" for all concerned Americans and especially for us patriots. Caution: These are real eye-openers! You'll want to check them out.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid...

http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/

Once I get the new topic up -- as I said, hopefully tomorrow afternoon or evening -- you'll understand exactly why it makes sense for Hillary to have converted to Islam. It's all part of the UN/socialist/Islamic and c*******t interlaced agenda for America. Obama was mentored by c*******ts and he's definitely a Muslim. Hillary pretty much "speaks" out of the C*******t Manifesto.

I agree with you. One day all of these t*****rs and imposters will discover that they bought the wrong tickets to their eternal destinations. In the meantime, the American public needs to be exceptionally aware, seek the t***h, and do all we can to try to put a stop to what is happening in America. This country is in grave danger. Thankfully, the Lord has the Master plan, and we know that certain things must come to pass before the Lord returns.

God bless. Shalom
Hi there! Tomorrow, hopefully, I will be posting ... (show quote)


You crazy!!

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Jan 11, 2015 00:46:12   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Believe me, if you "know" the guy had connections to Anwar Awlaki, so does the state dept. As to his comments, here is some more of that speech for context. I might agree with you to a certain extent.

"The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs; workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the men and women that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the h**e we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. ""
Believe me, if you "know" the guy had co... (show quote)


Hi, let me make some important comments on this post. One thing at a time:

Quoting from an article (Has The New York Times Just Provided Proof of Muslim Brotherhood Influence Operations in the United States):

"The fact that the New York Times has provided proof of foreign government influence operations in America's national security community should now raise serious concerns about some major policy decisions in recent years, where foreign interference was suspected but never proven.

"In 2012, Newt Gingrich wrote an article about the Congressional probe of MB [Muslim Brotherhood] infiltration where he noted that the Defense Department's official report on the Fort Hood shooter illogically described Nidal Hassan's attack as "workplace violence." Gingrich also charted the White House's efforts to expunge mention of Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel not merely from its own statements but also from the historical record, and he noted the explicit exclusion of Israel from the Global Counterterrorism Forum, in September 2011, by then Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton."

At this point, you also have to note that we have had several very recent terrorist attacks in America -- one on a woman in her workplace in Oklahoma where the she was murdered and beheaded; one on a young Jewish student praying in a synogogue in New York City; and one on two New York City police officers who were k**led while sitting in their squad car.

Obama called the attack on the Oklahoma woman "workplace violence" when it was a cut and dry act of terrorism. The attacker had been previously fired from the workplace and later returned to attack and k**l. Another woman who was also attacked was saved only because a co-worker had a conceal and carry permit and had his gun with him.

The Islamic attacker of the two police officers might also have been fueled by Obama's r****t agenda, but this attack was a terrorist attack. There will be more terrorist attacks in America because the terrorists are living among us thanks to both the t***sport of literally thousands of Muslims into this country who are being resettled into so called "Refugee Resettlement Camps" in nearly all states in America, and because of the percentage of Muslims and terrorists who are among the i*****l i*******ts. Also among the i******s are drug cartel members and many of these are Islamic terrorists.

Now, about Christians and Muslims. In absolutely no way -- not now, not in the past, and never -- do Jews and Christians worship the same God that Muslims do. In order for a person to really understand that the God of the believing Jews, Messianics, and Christians is the One God, the Creator God and that the god of Islam is Allah -- a personification of Satan, you would have to know the Word of God, the Bible. This whole thing started with Abraham, Sarah, Ishmael, and Isaac. Just keep it in mind that in no way -- absolutely no way -- do Christians worship the same god as Muslims do!

Now, before I get to the comments on women, let's take a quick look at the beliefs of the Muslim Brotherhood which is rapidly taking over our country and thrives in our White House and the current administration.

To be brief, the so called "mottos" of the Muslim Brotherhood are as follows:

"The Brotherhood's 'most frequently used slogan' (according to the BBC) is 'Islam is the Solution.' Another well known slogan is 'God is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of God is our highest hope. God is great!' On the Brotherhood's green logo is emplazoned 'And prepare' -- taken from surat l-anfal ('spoils of war', the 8th 'chapter' of the Quran)."

What millions of Americans don't get is that Islam is evil through and through. While there are so-called "peaceful" Muslims, they, too, believe the Quran. The Brotherhood's stated goal is to instill the Qur'an and Sunnah as the "sole reference point for ordering the life of the Muslim family, individual, community ...and state."

Unless Americans get it very soon and literally revolt against it, it won't be much longer before America is an Islamic nation. Obama is Muslim, c*******t, and pro-Islam. It is his goal to put America under a c*******t/socialist agenda and Islamic law. Obama h**es Americans, h**es America, h**es the Constitution, and serves his own agenda. This man will lie to Americans without flinching, because in Muslim laws of war, nothing is a lie as long as it furthers the cause to the glory of Allah. You cannot believe a word Obama says.

When you consider the extent that the Muslim Brotherhood has taken over this country in the years Obama has been in office, every true American has a right to be more than just concerned. This is not a matter of when the terrorists will come to America. This is a matter of the fact that they are already living, thriving, and even training in this country. There are, seriously, even ISIS training camps in America.

All I can say is God wake up America! While Americans have been sleeping in their too-comfortable sense of security, the enemy has taken over the country from the inside out.

"On the issue of women and g****r the Muslim Brotherhood interprets Islam conservatively. It's founder called for 'a campaign against ostentation in dress and loose behavior', 'segregation of male and female students', a separate curriculum for girls, and 'the prohibition of dancing and other pastimes ..."

Personally, I know of a reported incidence -- recent, but several years ago -- where a Muslim father chopped up his daughter and left her body parts on the porch for all to see because she had had sexual relations outside of marriage and her father found out about it. Muslim women are little more than s***es to their husbands and families.

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