carolyn

By Jeff Dover - January 7, 2015

There it is , conservatives, that is, that is, those that used to call themselves "Republicans." The retention of John Boehner in the Speaker's seat, yet again, tells us exactly what the Republican Party stands for. MORE OF THE SAME!

What is the same? The same is continues agreement with unnecessarily heavy spending. It is continued agreement with a huge federal government which increasingly usurps the power of the states, tolerates activist judges and urges passage of legislation it's members haven't read. It is also likely agreement with the passage of amnesty. It's continued agreement with the Democrat Party while while posing as "opposition."

Why did I refer conservatives as "those who used to call themselves Republicans?" That's because by now it's pretty obvious that the Republican Party doesn't share out views of how the nati0n should be managed. They don't even share the founders' views. What more do you need to see? This should be proof of why it's a waste of time and energy of those of us who want the nation on a different path to rely on the GOP to carry our banner.

The following are my thoughts.

It should also be proof that we should study the Tea Party as a group that will come so much closer to us having a party that will fight for what WE want and expect. The fact that both the Democrats and Republicans are so set against the Tea Party should be proof to even the slow of mind that both parties are for primarily the same goal, should it not?

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

the only thing I would differ with you on is you call the republicans conservative but they aren't, the T.E.A. party are the conservatives the republicans are a bunch of spineless rino's who are actually the old democrat party before the c*******t scared them out and took over that party

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

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Hemiman Loc: Communist California

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Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

When the Tea Party talked constitution, limited government and fiscal responsibility they attracted the attention of many from the right , the center and the left. When the social conservatives became the voice of the tea party they became just a different flavor of the same intrusive big government bent on the control and the the limiting of personal freedom. A government that imposes social conservative views using the police powers of the government, is no different, no better, than a government that imposes progressive views. Key word being "imposes". Both are a corruption and abuse of power to force an agenda.

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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The Tea Party members are now entrenched into this System of Government, that they are just as corrupt as the rest of them. Who paid for their campaigns...etc? (Someone who wants their agenda pushed through.) We need term limits, no campaign donations allowed from special interest groups or corporations.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

What we need is to return to a smaller limited decentralized government. There will always be corruption. Better that it is limited and decentralized. Term limits will only strengthen the corruption within the bureaucracy itself. Altered donation rules will only spur more creative ways to skirt the rules.

I can't fault the Tea Party. They have had a positive effect on reigning in government. At least they have forced the conversation. If they had no effect then the old politicians and bureaucrats wouldn't despise them so much. I do fault the social conservatives, the religious right, those who stole the voice of the Tea Party, those that distorted and weakened the original message.

carolyn

If you notice , I said Republicans that USED to call themselves conservatives. If they continue to call themselves conservatives, then they cannot be Republican.

carolyn

I really don't believe that the left of the right ever became the voice of the Tea Party. There were some attempts made by both the left and the left of the right to weasel into the Tea Party to start their anti-propaganda to ruin the Party. But they have since been culled and are not able to integrate as easily as they once did simply because most people never thought that even they would be crooked enough to try something as blatantly low as this.

The Tea Party is still the greatest party for anyone who remembers our freedom as our Constitution declared it to be. But people would have to be old enough to remember outhouses and Burma Shave signs to relate to this. But to you that can't remember, we were once served by our elected officials.

carolyn

I cannot in all honesty agree with you. The Tea Party is not entrenched with the Democrats and Republicans whatsoever. Why would these two parties be so dead set against the Tea Party if they were in fact in bed with them?

carolyn

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Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

I didn't mean that the left became the voice of the Tea Party. I meant that the Tea Party become the voice of many of the moderate left and independents. That is until the went off on the social conservative bent. At that point they lost those moderates and independents as well as the libertarians. I still believe the Tea Party is our best hope for liberty and the constitution. The religious right, though they will claim differently, don't believe in either. If they did they would not try to use government police powers to impose their social engineering.

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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The Tea Party has some great ideas and would probably do great things if Dems & Repubs would let them. Tea Party representation in Congress is being infected with the same disease everyone else in Congress gets after being there a couple months. "We will get to it Tomorrow" Attitude.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The clearest answer for the Teas come in what the IRS did to them in trying to stop their growth..They are truly feared and should be!!

And yes, both sides of the party have tried to "infiltrate them" just to then turn it around on them..Another sign both parties fear them, as they should!!

Local Teas are, in my opinion, better than the National level Teas as the National level is still scattered in direction and focus, while the local charters have more of both...Hopefully they won't be discouraged and throw in the towel before actually accomplishing what their mission is--smaller government with true Conservatives in place..So much needed.....

No denying the Teas are gaining recognition although some would argue they are losing ground...Sure don't see that when we see e******ns like Nov 2014...And who went into office..I like that they "dog both parties" making them have to take a position and or fear being out themselves!! Equates to fundamental balance and I support it~~~

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The clearest answer for the Teas come in what the IRS did to them in trying to stop their growth..They are truly feared and should be!!

And yes, both sides of the party have tried to "infiltrate them" just to then turn it around on them..Another sign both parties fear them, as they should!!

Local Teas are, in my opinion, better than the National level Teas as the National level is still scattered in direction and focus, while the local charters have more of both...Hopefully they won't be discouraged and throw in the towel before actually accomplishing what their mission is--smaller government with true Conservatives in place..So much needed.....

No denying the Teas are gaining recognition although some would argue they are losing ground...Sure don't see that when we see e******ns like Nov 2014...And who went into office..I like that they "dog both parties" making them have to take a position and or fear being out themselves!! Equates to fundamental balance and I support it~~~

Great post, BTW~~ :thumbup: :thumbup: