Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Those of us who were around for the Vietnam War remember the photo of Phan Thi Kim Phuc– “the napalm girl”– the naked, badly burned 9 year old girl fleeing the advancing bombing.

Today, thanks to “the only democracy in the Middle East” and Israel’s Washington enabler, we watch on TV, in Pepe Escobar’s words, “the wanton k*****g of women and children, the carpet bombing of hospitals, schools and mosques.”

And nothing is done. Washington sends more bombs, more money. European politicians speak of wanton murder of civilians as “Israel’s right of self-defense.” We are descending into darkness and losing our souls.

What does it profit Israel to gain Palestine, yet forfeit Israel’s soul?

What does it profit Washington?

What does it profit Americans who are sending the money and bombs with which to genocide a people?

Liberty Tree

What does it profit Israel? Survival.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Sometimes, Ri-chard, you are utterly embarrassing to yourself. I am ashamed of you as a human being.
Your personal hatred for fictitious 'Z*****ts' has led you to becoming a cheerleader for the modern equivalent of Sauron and his hoard of orcs.
The Israelis have given tens of thousands of lives, plus land, money, and everything else in a pursuit of a long term peaceful solution, only to have every step of the way opposed by the Palestinians. The Palestinians want "from the river to the sea"......let's see if they can take it.
When a dog attacks a lion in his den, only a fool weeps when the dog reaps the whirlwind.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Money for the Z*****t....

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

In even the most "humane" wars, armies are trained to k**l people and smash things. Israel is fighting for its survival against an inhumane opponent, who is possessed by the most ancient satanic hatred on earth.

The Jews have proven with videos in recent weeks what the discriminating world has known for years, that Hamas like subterranean reptiles, has headquarters and tunnels and weapons beneath the hospitals, schools and mosques throughout the Gaza strip, with which they war against Israel in the most cruel, brutal and indiscriminate manner.

Before commencing their bombing, followed by their ground invasion of Gaza, the Israeli's repeatedly warned the civilian occupants by dropping leaflets in Arabic by the millions, to vacate the area. Hamas, in many instances, prevented them doing so, willingly facilitating their injuries and deaths as a propaganda tool.

The Bible says that Eretz Yisrael [the land of Israel] has belonged to the Jews as an eternal possession, by God's dictate, for almost 4,000 years, – which Joshua 1st made a physical reality by conquest over 3,000 years ago.

The United States, the British, and the 22 Arab nations can and will debate "Mideast peace plans" ad nauseam, however, nothing can or ever will change this pre-eminent fact: Almighty God gave the land to Israel, the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as an eternal possession. No one else is or ever will be entitled to the land. The deed is recorded in the Bible, the most historically accurate supernatural document in history.

In the Book of Genesis, God appeared to Abraham and said: “I will assign this land to your offspring” (Genesis 15:18-21). In this passage, God made an unconditional covenant – contract – with Abraham. Throughout the Bible, He repeats over and over that this covenant is eternal and unconditional, and that He alone will perform it. Nothing is contingent upon the Jewish people, or required of them.

The medieval scholar and Bible commentator Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki) asked: “Why, if the Torah is a book of laws for the Jewish people, does it begin with the history of creation and the lives of our Jewish forefathers?”

Rashi’s answer foretold that there would come a time when nations would claim the Jews “stole the Land of Israel,” and that the land belongs to others and not to them.

Rashi further explains that the Bible in Genesis begins first with the story of creation to establish that all the world belongs to God, and that He alone has the right to apportion it. Again and again, in the subsequent historical stories of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses, God promised the land of Israel to the nation of Israel.

God, in the Bible, makes it clear that the land of Israel would not be given to the descendants of Abraham’s son, Ishmael, by the Egyptian, Hagar, but rather to Isaac, the son of promise. In Genesis 17:19, God tells Abraham: “Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall name him Isaac; and I will maintain My covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his offspring to come.”

In 17:20-21 God promises to bless Ishmael, the ancestor of the Muslims, and use him to create a great nation, but His covenant to Abraham, which again prominently included the specific promise of the specific land, was to be accomplished through Isaac, not Ishmael, removing any ambiguity whatsoever.

When people of faith read the Bible, they understand the intrinsic, unbreakable connection between the Jewish people and the land of Israel. There are over 1,000 verses in the Hebrew Bible connecting the Jewish people with the land of Israel.

Anyone who questions God also questions the historical veracity of the Bible, by incorrectly assuming that in a proverbial game of "telephone," it was altered over the years.

Extensive techniques have been used by Jewish scribes for centuries to make sure the Bible we hold in our hands today is the most historically accurate document ever produced in the ancient world. Copying scriptures has always been considered a sacred task among the Jews, and therefore literally thousands of quality-control methods were locked into place to ensure reliability.

For instance, the Torah must be written by hand by a scribe, one letter at a time. This process means writing a Torah can take more than three years. And, upon completion, the document is once again checked for accuracy before it can be used.

Further, massive accumulative archeological evidence supports the belief that Israel has been in its land for as long as the Bible recounts and that the words of scripture are all historically true.

Every archaeological dig in Israel supports the t***h that Jews have had a presence in Israel for thousands of years. Jewish and non-Jewish archaeologists have found coins, pottery and literally complete buried cities that document the Jewish presence in Israel predating any shrill claims that other people now in the region make.

It is well known and indisputable that the Jews had a presence in the land of Israel until the Romans conquered it. and that they were forcibly expelled from the land during two dispersions, in the years 70 A.D. and 135 A.D..

The Ottoman Turks had control until World War I when they fought against the British on Germany’s side. The British sent troops against the Turks in the Holy Land under the leadership of Bible-believing Christian General Edmund Allenby.

In 1917, Allenby captured Beersheba from the Ottoman Empire, bringing himself within striking distance of Jerusalem, intending to deliver the city as a Christmas present to the British people. The night before the attack against Jerusalem, Allenby prayed that God would allow him to capture the city without damaging its holy sites.

On that day, Allenby sent World War I biplanes over Jerusalem on a reconnaissance mission. The Turks had never before seen airplanes and when they looked into the sky, they did not know what they seeing, and were terrified.

Further, they were told they were going to be opposed by a man named Allenby, whose name in their language means “prophet from God.” The Turks dared not fight against a prophet from God, so the next morning, General Allenby captured Jerusalem without firing a shot.

Not taking the religious significance of his role lightly, when Allenby entered the Jaffa Gate on Dec. 11, he dismounted, and entered on foot, as a sign of respect for the holy city, believing the Scriptures that only the Messiah could enter Jerusalem riding upon an animal.

In those short weeks – 40 days to be precise – between the Battle of Beersheba and the capture of Jerusalem – the Balfour Declaration was issued by the British government. It was a short declaration sent from the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to prominent British Jew, Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild, expressing the British government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

The Balfour Declaration was meant to inform the local inhabitants of Palestine, but most of all, it addressed the Christians of England.

“England more than anything needed a moral case in advance of Allenby’s taking Jerusalem, not for the Jewish conscience but for the Christian one,” explained Barbara Tuchman in her classic book which I have in my library, "Bible and Sword: England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour."

That moral argument originated in the Bible, for throughout the Bible, the Lord says that Israel belongs to the Jews.

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RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Thank you, Zemirah.
Of course, religious evidence holds no sway over our secular friends, They will simply chalk it up to superstition. However, legal and historical evidence ALSO fully backs up what you are saying. The land was globally and legally given to Israel in 1948. It belongs to the citizens of Israel, regardless of their being Jew, Arab, or Muslim. They have every moral and legal right to defend their country and homes, even if it means reducing Gaza down to the bedrock.
I have tremendous sympathy for the innocents in Gaza. I have MORE for the innocent victims in Israel.
Israel should continue the offensive until Hamas no long exists in Gaza, and the threat is resolved once and for all. Israel should then fully occupy and annex Gaza into their country, and then begin rebuilding.
If the left wants to look at the innocent lives spared, then they should look to the hundreds of thousands saved by ending this conflict NOW, rather than letting it d**g on for another 70 years or more.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Remember, when you quote the jews bible it reads like a plagiarized version of the Anunnaki/Sumerian accounts written in stone for posterity thousands of years before there was a jew claiming THEY are the Chosen Ones by THEIR god. Always tell the whole t***h as it is known.

Most scholars still think that Abraham came from Ur in southern Mesopotamia / Sumer. Abraham- the Son of a Sumerian Oracle Priest. Ten generations had past since the great deluge and the memory of the horrendous catastrophic event was fading from the collective memory of the various tribes from the House of Noah. Nahor, the eighth generation from Noah in the House of Shem, had an infant son, raised in the shadows of the mighty Sumerian prince, Nimrod.

This seems strange for a number of reasons, including: The Ur in Mesopotamia is NOT beyond (East of) the Euphrates, although in Joshua 24:3 we read: "I took your father Abraham from beyond the Euphrates River and led him through all the land of Canaan..." Ur was under the rule of King Gilgamesh.

-The specific nomenclature "Ur-kasdim" seems to indicate that an older document was edited after the Chaldeans took control of Ur (sometime after the 9th century BCE). The scribe may have been attempting to make sense of a city name that either no longer existed or that he was not aware of. It's not standard practice to follow the name of a city by the people-group currently ruling over that city... at least I don't know of any other examples in the Hebrew Bible.

-Abram and his wife Sarai clearly came from a different cultural background. If they were from an Akkadian milieu, why do their names not appear to be Akkadian names? And why did they need to change their names to actual Semitic-sounding names? (They didn't adopt Yahwistic names, which is the main reason for name changes in the HB)

May I suggest that Abram (which sounds more Indo-European-ish) was from Urkesh, the capital of the Hurrian region in the Upper Habur from roughly 2300-1800 BCE? (No, I'm not claiming to be the first person to suggest this)

What would be an incredibly long journey from Mesopotamia to Syria is not discussed, even in summary. Instead, immediately after leaving his hometown, Abraham temporarily stays in Haran (Haran is quite close to Urkesh).
Also, his brother's name just happens to be Haran, which may hint at the geographical origin of the family (this sort of explanation for city names is common in Genesis).

What do you think?

By the way, I am not necessarily arguing for the historicity of the figure of Abraham, but am interested in what the original authors of the story meant when they wrote the name of the city he was from.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

This isn't the first time you hae said such nonsense. Lord willing, it will be the last.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

It's only nonsense to the ignorant like you. Prove what was written first wasn't.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

No.
I don't have to prove anything, especially a negative.
But the evidence you present does NOT justify the conclusions you preach, in my opinion. I believe your conclusions are pure nonsense.
You seem enamored with conspiracy theories, and I don't play those games.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

As to how long this will continue, I believe God nailed it when speaking of the descendants of Ishmail = all Arabs, and by their spiritual motivation, all muslims:

Genesis 16:12 "He shall be a wild ass of a man, with his hand against everyone, and everyone's hand against him, fierce and untamed, and unsettled in his habitation; or as that creature is (Job 39:5,8; Jeremiah 2:24; Hosea 8:9), living in deserts and mountains, warlike and violent, exercising himself continually in oppressing men, and he shall live at odds with all his kin/brethren." [Muhammad, founder of Islam, claimed descendancy from Ishmail.]

IMHO, the t***hfulness of God's Word needs no backing up from secular sources, although, historically, of course, those who have chosen to adhere to worldly standards, have always and will always choose so to believe.

Nor could I ever regard the word of God as merely "religious evidence," because Jesus made it clear that all those who choose to so disregard it, make themselves subject to its judgment. God's words are t***h, light and life.

Jesus said, "Whoever rejects Me and refuses to accept My teachings, has one who judges him; the very word that I spoke will judge and condemn him on the last day." John 12:48

God, speaking through the prophet Nehemiah, in the 5th century Before Christ, specifically told the spokesmen of the Iranians, the Arabs and the Jordanians they had no part in Jerusalem. That is no less true today than it was then.

"But when Sanballat the Horonite [1st Persian Empire/Iran], Tobiah the Ammonite [Jordan] official, and Geshem the Arab [Arabia] heard about this, they mocked us and ridiculed us, saying, “What is this you are doing? Are you rebelling against the king?
"In reply to them, I said, "The God of heaven has appointed us for His purpose and will give us success; therefore we His servants will arise and build, But as far as you're concerned, there exists no ancestral heritage, no legal right, nor any historic claim in Jerusalem." (Nehemiah 2:19-20)

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

As Noah's descendants gradually fell away from their belief and worship of their Creator God, preferring to build themselves idols in their own images, they wrote down their perverted, reimagined versions of the t***h they had once retained from Noah.

Because every word of the Bible was freshly inspired by the Holy Spirit, to God's chosen prophets, and later to the Apostles, it does not matter when the lies of Satan were written. They cannot compete in the mind of those who ask God for the wisdom to know the t***h... (James 1:5-6, 4:8)

Because the word of God is supernaturally applied to the mind and to the heart of the sincere seeker after God.

You are, therefore, arguing a moot point.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

You too can't handle the indisputable t***h. Sorry for you.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

LOL!
Seems like a LOT of people are disputing your "indisputable" t***h.
Perhaps you do no understand what "indisputable" means?
Or perhaps you are the one who don't recognize the "t***h"?
One thing for sure, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I, or anyone else, can't "handle" it.
Your statement simply means you share one of the more common unsavory and unappealing character traits with the left.....everyone has to agree with you or be vilified, ridiculed, and attacked.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Show me your version of t***h