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motive power

elmer wrote:

I think the sheriff is a little off. The figures he gives are wrong. There is a report out that states the number of police k*****gs are not reported like they are supposed to be. No one knows for certain how many people are k**led by police. They required to file a report but seldom ever do.

You are full of it! Anytime an officer pulls a weapon and fires it even if he don't shoot someone he and his department must file a report period. If what you siad held water Obama and his bunch would have cloosed every police department in the country and placed us under Marshal Law and Homeland Sec. Obama would be saying hundreds of b****s had been k**led and no reports had been made of the shootings etc.

elmer

Look it up then smart ass!

motive power

elmer wrote:

Look it up then smart ass!

Not sure to whom you were replying to on this post but if it was me. I stand by my statement and ask what BS Rev. Al not too sharpton place you found such information. We need Dirty Harry but don't have him!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Viet Nam Vet 67-68 wrote:

DUMMY BOY, TURNED IN SEVERAL PEOPLE FOR THIS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE WELFARE PERSON SAID TO ME MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS THESE PEOPLE GIVE ME A JOB AND HUNG UP.

You don't need to yell and you don't call the "welfare" office, that's why I gave you the Inspector General's office.

elmer

motive power wrote:

You are full of it! Anytime an officer pulls a weapon and fires it even if he don't shoot someone he and his department must file a report period. If what you siad held water Obama and his bunch would have cloosed every police department in the country and placed us under Marshal Law and Homeland Sec. Obama would be saying hundreds of b****s had been k**led and no reports had been made of the shootings etc.

Look it up then smart ass!

motive power

elmer wrote:

Look it up then smart ass!

I will be happy to look it up but I don't know where to start looking on Rev. Al not so Sharpton's web. I am sure it isn't a legitimate site or one I have ever came across. I know a number of cops around the world as well as local ones and they all about fell out when I dropped your post on them. One said with the crap that has been going on lately at various locations in this country, if they could get by with what you said, the welfare rolls would be way down.

elmer

motive power wrote:

I will be happy to look it up but I don't know where to start looking on Rev. Al not so Sharpton's web. I am sure it isn't a legitimate site or one I have ever came across. I know a number of cops around the world as well as local ones and they all about fell out when I dropped your post on them. One said with the crap that has been going on lately at various locations in this country, if they could get by with what you said, the welfare rolls would be way down.

What the hell does Al Sharpton have to do with looking up a statistic?

Officials with the Justice Department keep no comprehensive database or record of police shootings, instead allowing the nations more than 17,000 law enforcement agencies to self-report officer-involved shootings as part of the FBIs annual data on justifiable homicides by law enforcement.

That number which only includes self-reported information from about 750 law enforcement agencies hovers around 400 justifiable homicides by police officers each year. The DOJs Bureau of Justice Statistics also tracks arrest-related deaths. But the department stopped releasing those numbers after 2009, because, like the FBI data, they were widely regarded as unreliable.

Whats there is crappy data, said David A. Klinger, a former police officer and criminal justice professor at the University of Missouri who studies police use of force.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/08/how-many-police-shootings-a-year-no-one-knows/

JenniferJ

WOW, I APPLAUD YOU!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? You blow Ass Sharpton out of his r****t water!!! I wish everyone in the world would read this or listen to his remarks. It restores my faith in the black community that it is not always blamed on us, when I know in my heart, I have done nothing wrong. I am amazed, astonished and grateful I came across this message. Its so easy to point a finger and place blame on anyone, but the people actually responsible. God Bless You, Please Keep speaking up!!!!

motive power

elmer wrote:

What the hell does Al Sharpton have to do with loo... (show quote)

A very interesting read and could lead to a lot of conjecture and interpretation that would be fodder for either side of this debate. I would personally from my own perspective choose not to believe we have police officers out shooting people of any race or creed for sport or because they can get by with it. I was once put in a position where I could have legally shot a black fellow. Would have likely I found later been given a medal for it. I didn't shoot him because I didn't have to. It wasn't because I was a candy ass either as I had only been back from Vietnam 3 years, where I had capped a few people. I know a few cops very well. Most complain of b****s with attiudes and try to avoid contact with them when possible and are not about to risk all for a dumb ass black.

elmer

motive power wrote:

A very interesting read and could lead to a lot of... (show quote)

Stop and think why b****s might have an attitude. If you were constantly stopped, and frisked, or other wise stopped for no apparent reason except for the fact you were black, why wouldn't you have one? You would too. Because that doesn't happen to you, or other white people, you would have no Idea. It's just like people in government have no Idea what it's like to live in the real world, and have to do the daily things we all do. Can't understand why people have to get assistance to live, when they don't have to pay for insurance, retirement, and only work a month out of the year. A lot of people, black and white, think that somebody owes them, but not all. But what happens is you start blaming all for the few. There are many many cops who believe minorities are worthless. A ranking officer in the NY police dept. said, "They are born N****rs, the live like N****rs, and they grow up to be N****rs!" That attitude is all through that force.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Dummy Boy wrote:

I had an adviser when I was working on my masters, who told me that when you publish successful research, it's a short paper, but when unsuccessful, it's much longer...that being said...hope you feel better explaining to me why poor people don't need a handout, but wait they don't.....Fraud is fraud. I would turn my own grandmother in....

Sure you would! :lol: But you wouldn't do it if you didn't have firsthand knowledge, would you? I have some firsthand knowledge from a number of years ago, but I doubt it would do any good to bring it up now.

Don't be sore because I didn't jump on your link. Welfare fraud is beside the point of this thread anyway, which is...if black l***s m****r we'd be encouraging them to do the right thing, and my answer to you wasn't so much about poor people not needing a handout as it was the flaws of public charity.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

elmer wrote:

I think the sheriff is a little off. The figures he gives are wrong. There is a report out that states the number of police k*****gs are not reported like they are supposed to be. No one knows for certain how many people are k**led by police. They required to file a report but seldom ever do.

Everyone's numbers are a little off! But I think a reasonable person who takes them with a grain of salt could deduce that the problems in the black community, as well as poor folks in general, go far beyond getting a raw deal from the police.

The social welfare system is set up in a way where damage to black families...the backbone of any people...is almost unavoidable, and the results are obvious.

We're wasting a hell of a lot of time addressing symptoms rather than the cause, and we only talk about a couple of them! We need to be frank, honest and prepared to take a closer look than the look we're given by the media.

melbell Loc: California / Kentucky

BigMike wrote:

There's an elephant in the room and some try their best to ignore it by shouting at the top of their lungs. Let's get to the core of the matter. Here's the opinion of a black sheriff.

I put off reading this all day. Just worried it would be extremely negative toward b****s because of the title if black l***s m****r.

Relieved. Glad someone is speaking about personal responsibility. Now if many would listen and return to loving their fellow man.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

elmer wrote:

Stop and think why b****s might have an attitude. ... (show quote)

While all that can be true, the point of the sheriff's comments was that the problems in their community go far beyond the police. Did any of that register? You're focusing on a single piece of the problem.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

melbell wrote:

I put off reading this all day. Just worried it would be extremely negative toward b****s because of the title if black l***s m****r.

Relieved. Glad someone is speaking about personal responsibility. Now if many would listen and return to loving their fellow man.

We need to love ourselves, as well. Which means taking responsibiltiy and being accountable. It means self-disciplin. If a person refuses to disciplin him or her self, someone else will, and bad things can happen.

Social policies enacted under Johnson and promoted hard by liberals to this day are literally destroying poor families, a disproportionate number of whom are black.

We are training grown men and women to be dependent like children. Having one's needs met comes at a terrible cost and the results are self-evident.