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Trump's Fraud Testimony Was A Disaster In Every Way
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Nov 10, 2023 17:15:18   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Who determines the right/wrong? The majority have been wrong often throughout history.

Vigilante justice. 40 say guilty. One says not guilty. Majority rule and another innocent man or woman could be toast.

Is AI the answer? It will be tracking and monitoring all of us.


Are you functionally illiterate? Where were you brainwashed? I just don't get the moronic imbecilism that you constantly display. You should take advantage of the euthanasia program that your c*******t government is pushing on the stupid. Total FUBAR!

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Nov 10, 2023 17:43:20   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
The "judge" had his marching orders and his mind made up before Trump ever entered the courtroom weeks ago.

I wonder why Trump did not opt for a jury trial, the alternative, a summary conviction could be political posturing.

He has and can continue to rail against not having a fair hearing even though it was his choice not to have a jury.

All political to rial.

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Nov 10, 2023 17:51:58   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I wonder why Trump did not opt for a jury trial, the alternative, a summary conviction could be political posturing.

He has and can continue to rail against not having a fair hearing even though it was his choice not to have a jury.

All political to rial.


Again, he did NOT HAVE A CHOICE FOR A JURY TRIAL. Google it.

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Nov 10, 2023 17:55:03   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Gatsby wrote:
The verdict was in before this trial started, and will be overturned.

Possibly.

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Nov 10, 2023 18:29:58   #
son of witless
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I wonder why Trump did not opt for a jury trial, the alternative, a summary conviction could be political posturing.

He has and can continue to rail against not having a fair hearing even though it was his choice not to have a jury.

All political to rial.


My personal opinion is that Trump knew he was convicted before the trial began. Why bother with a jury trial ? I think he is intentionally aggravating this judge. The more the judge loses his temper the easier it will be for Donald J. Trump's lawyers to get the conviction thrown out in Appeals Court. The judge is supposed to be impartial, which he is not.

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Nov 10, 2023 18:31:05   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
son of witless wrote:
My personal opinion is that Trump knew he was convicted before the trial began. Why bother with a jury trial ? I think he is intentionally aggravating this judge. The more the judge loses his temper the easier it will be for Donald J. Trump's lawyers to get the conviction thrown out in Appeals Court. The judge is supposed to be impartial, which he is not.


Trump was denied a jury trial. It's not a criminal case.

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Nov 10, 2023 18:39:04   #
son of witless
 
coelacanth wrote:
Trump was denied a jury trial. It's not a criminal case.


Trump could have requested a jury trial. He may or may not have gotten one.

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Nov 10, 2023 19:03:58   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
son of witless wrote:
Trump could have requested a jury trial. He may or may not have gotten one.


He was DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED A JURY (JURY) JAY YOU ARR WYE TRIAL! ARE YOU A MORON TOO?

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Nov 10, 2023 21:18:31   #
son of witless
 
coelacanth wrote:
He was DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED, DENIED A JURY (JURY) JAY YOU ARR WYE TRIAL! ARE YOU A MORON TOO?



Whether I am a moron is beside the point. I might be for bothering to try to talk to you, or perhaps I am a moron for reading this snopes article and going by what it said. You obviously are not a moron, because you seem to have better information than I have access to.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/03/trumps-lawyers-forget-check-box/

" In response to Trump's complaints, Engoron later stated that, in fact, that "nobody asked for" a jury trial. The Messenger and other outlets initially argued that neglecting to file a simple form with a checkbox was the reason for Trump's lack of jury trial: "

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Nov 11, 2023 01:08:35   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
coelacanth wrote:
Again, he did NOT HAVE A CHOICE FOR A JURY TRIAL. Google it.

I did a search. No articles that say he did not have a choice.

He did not ask for a jury trial. He did not check off the Trial by Jury box.

Fact-checking Trump's claims about New York fraud trial

https://www.bbc.com/news/66989373

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Nov 11, 2023 08:03:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I did a search. No articles that say he did not have a choice.

He did not ask for a jury trial. He did not check off the Trial by Jury box.

Fact-checking Trump's claims about New York fraud trial

https://www.bbc.com/news/66989373


Did Trump need to be concerned for getting a L*****t jury from a highly L*****t jury pool?

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Nov 11, 2023 09:32:05   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Did Trump need to be concerned for getting a L*****t jury from a highly L*****t jury pool?

He knew what kind of jury he would get in a city that h**es him.

He rolled the dice hoping for either a bias judge like Cannon or his ability to rile the judge and get a better shot at an appeal.

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Nov 11, 2023 10:08:01   #
son of witless
 
RascalRiley wrote:
He knew what kind of jury he would get in a city that h**es him.

He rolled the dice hoping for either a bias judge like Cannon or his ability to rile the judge and get a better shot at an appeal.


Definitely. This trial verdict is meaningless. All of the drama between Donald J. Trump and the judge is what the defense lawyers are counting on. In the appeals court they must decide whether Trump had a fair trial in front of an unbiased judge. Every time the judge loses his temper that works in Trump's favor.

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