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Nov 1, 2023 12:54:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
I am truly happy to see this get a boost, at long last..


https://www.minnpost.com/environment/2023/11/proposed-hubs-hope-to-show-hydrogen-energy-economy-is-more-than-just-hype/

Proposed hubs hope to show hydrogen energy economy is more than just hype
Heartland Hub partnership among Minnesota, North Dakota and Wisconsin is one of seven winners in national competition for $7 billion from federal infrastructure law.



It is the kind of news that governors gush over.

A consortium covering Minnesota and three neighboring states was one of seven Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs to be awarded around $1 billion each to research and develop different ways of harnessing hydrogen as a clean energy source. The program, funded by the 2021 federal infrastructure law, seeks ways to create hydrogen from water and use it for hard-to-electrify energy uses like fertilizer production, steel and cement manufacturing, trucking and aviation.

It is a key plank in the Biden administration’s c*****e c****e policy.

“This is a major investment in Minnesota and the region’s economy and a v**e of confidence in our ability to innovate,” Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said in the press release.

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Nov 1, 2023 13:08:39   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
permafrost wrote:
I am truly happy to see this get a boost, at long last..


https://www.minnpost.com/environment/2023/11/proposed-hubs-hope-to-show-hydrogen-energy-economy-is-more-than-just-hype/

Proposed hubs hope to show hydrogen energy economy is more than just hype
Heartland Hub partnership among Minnesota, North Dakota and Wisconsin is one of seven winners in national competition for $7 billion from federal infrastructure law.



It is the kind of news that governors gush over.

A consortium covering Minnesota and three neighboring states was one of seven Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs to be awarded around $1 billion each to research and develop different ways of harnessing hydrogen as a clean energy source. The program, funded by the 2021 federal infrastructure law, seeks ways to create hydrogen from water and use it for hard-to-electrify energy uses like fertilizer production, steel and cement manufacturing, trucking and aviation.

It is a key plank in the Biden administration’s c*****e c****e policy.

“This is a major investment in Minnesota and the region’s economy and a v**e of confidence in our ability to innovate,” Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said in the press release.
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It's too late for Biden to take credit for Hydrogen Feul Automobiles. BP Oil Company broke ground on their Hydrogen Manufacturing Plant back in March, and Toyota already has had two models on the road and driving since 2014.









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Nov 1, 2023 13:25:31   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Weasel wrote:
It's too late for Biden to take credit for Hydrogen Feul Automobiles. BP Oil Company broke ground on their Hydrogen Manufacturing Plant back in March, and Toyota already has had two models on the road and driving since 2014.


I had seen this a while ago.. should have posted it as well.. The car I mean.. great looking machine also...

The minnesota project is not about vehicles but about the production of the Hydrogen.. the last I heard, the fuel is currently produced from Petroleum and therefore is not any solution. the 7 awards are to create an affordable production from water rather then crude oil..

Like we all did in high school chemistry (?) class...

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Nov 2, 2023 11:10:39   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
I had seen this a while ago.. should have posted it as well.. The car I mean.. great looking machine also...

The minnesota project is not about vehicles but about the production of the Hydrogen.. the last I heard, the fuel is currently produced from Petroleum and therefore is not any solution. the 7 awards are to create an affordable production from water rather then crude oil..

Like we all did in high school chemistry (?) class...


Have you seen the price of water lately?

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Nov 2, 2023 11:19:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Have you seen the price of water lately?


LOL,, what ever it is, in the future it may cost more than gold. Several attempts to make water a very costly item have been halted in the last few decades.. One was Nestle tried to wrap up all the great lakes water as their own for the bottled water business.. the US/Canada treaty on the lakes usage stopped them but they still got limited use of the water which should not have been allowed..

In the near times, raindrops keep falling on my head..

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Nov 2, 2023 21:45:31   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
LOL,, what ever it is, in the future it may cost more than gold. Several attempts to make water a very costly item have been halted in the last few decades.. One was Nestle tried to wrap up all the great lakes water as their own for the bottled water business.. the US/Canada treaty on the lakes usage stopped them but they still got limited use of the water which should not have been allowed..

In the near times, raindrops keep falling on my head..
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It's against the law to collect rain water. At least it is in California. Maybe different where you live . As far as hydrogen and water go , saltwater burns at the right frequency. Easily converted to fuel with just the right sound. Why aren't people developing this technology? Also you can electrify your fuel injectors and convert water to hydrogen and oxygen. This has been done but the guy doing it was poisoned just when he was getting a military contract .

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Nov 2, 2023 22:53:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nonalien1 wrote:
It's against the law to collect rain water. At least it is in California. Maybe different where you live . As far as hydrogen and water go , saltwater burns at the right frequency. Easily converted to fuel with just the right sound. Why aren't people developing this technology? Also you can electrify your fuel injectors and convert water to hydrogen and oxygen. This has been done but the guy doing it was poisoned just when he was getting a military contract .


Alien,, I can only hope your comments are to be a joke and they do make you chuckle.. gosh what if it were real..

If you do think saltwater will burn but needs the right sound to make it work or that fuel injectors will give us hydrogen... work harder on it and make a million. In the duration, the world struggle will continue..

Have a good night.. come back tomorrow..

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Nov 3, 2023 00:40:24   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
Alien,, I can only hope your comments are to be a joke and they do make you chuckle.. gosh what if it were real..

If you do think saltwater will burn but needs the right sound to make it work or that fuel injectors will give us hydrogen... work harder on it and make a million. In the duration, the world struggle will continue..

Have a good night.. come back tomorrow..


Yup I ain't goin' anywhere. I'll be here. Salt water burning is an established fact.. so is electrolysis to separate the hydrogen and oxygen molecules. One will go to the positive charge and the other will be attracted by the negative charge. High school chemistry .Putting tap water in your fuel tank is the only practical way to use hydrogen . Solid fuel is way too expensive and hydrogen gas is explosive. It's got to be charged in the intake manifold and the oxygen syphoned off. I don't have the resources to do it myself but corporations like Toyota and Tesla could make it work within a couple years. Unless the PTB are controlling our technological advancements.

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Nov 3, 2023 00:49:22   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
Alien,, I can only hope your comments are to be a joke and they do make you chuckle.. gosh what if it were real..

If you do think saltwater will burn but needs the right sound to make it work or that fuel injectors will give us hydrogen... work harder on it and make a million. In the duration, the world struggle will continue..

Have a good night.. come back tomorrow..


Google saltwater burning. It's a good breakfast read. Makes a person think.

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Nov 3, 2023 05:23:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Google saltwater burning. It's a good breakfast read. Makes a person think.



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