AS TRUE AMERICANS, WHAT IS OUR COURSE OF ACTION? I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is...

rumitoid

I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is not, of course, my own idea but shared by most able-minded historians and thinkers. Had we but listened to our Declaration of Independence and made it to include from the start Negroes, women, native Americans, and those W****s without property, I feel the world would have been t***sformed and most of our future problems thoroughly obviated. Yet we did not.

And as a result we had an avoidable Civil War. And as a result we had an avoidable 100 year history of suppression of the indigenous people, breaking every agreement we ever made. So many detours and bumps and tragic twists that could have been avoided with a simple commitment to our founding documents.

The luxury and marvel of freedom of speech is not unlike the wonder and beauty of water: without it life as a viable person cannot truly exist. It is the very lifeblood of our existence, and of progress. That we have reached the very sad and sorry state in America where a difference of opinion does not inspire soul-searching arguments and spirited debate, a perhaps reluctant but nonetheless admiring glance across the aisle, yet rather automatic hatred and attack is an utter disgrace for the notion of freedom. Such an attitude speaks that we do not deserve it. And has made us savages.

Before the get-go of Revolution, there were fundamental and seemingly irreconcilable differences intra- and extra-mural of the colonies. Basic religious and economic concerns. A look from today's mindset of stalwart d******eness on these difficulties: absolutely impossible to come togetherand rightly so. Let's k**l each other. Somehow they did manage to come to compromise and put their differences aside for the greater good. THE GREATER GOOD: a crucial foundation of freedom and all but forgotten today.

It is all about we the people--and we will perpetually have differences of opinion and interests. Urban from rural. North from South. Industrial from Agricultural. Poor from Rich. Left from Right. It is not a versus unless we make it so. Do we therefore give up on trying to resolve these natural differences for THE GREATER GOOD or to forget the greatest and most wondrous and hope-filled expression of the dignity of humankind ever conceived in our Founding Documents? Do we forget the dead at Bunker Hill, the Alamo, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, or Hamburger Hill? Persevering in trying to maintain, strengthen, and enhance the ideals of America means at times eating crow, shaking hands with i***ts, or going home empty-handed. Yet I feel such ideals as conceived by our Founding Fathers are worthy of anyany and everysacrifice. Few seem to agree at One Political Plaza.

Disrespect for the presidency and government, as if neither are part of what makes America great, is ignorance. But I can understand the frustration which promotes attacks on both. We can be seriously wrong-headed about our direction and purpose, lost for a season or more and the prospects grim. Yet by God and the grace of our Constitution, we eventually put things right...given the chance. We presently still have a government that accepts such condemnation or rebuke and looks at itself. That is the greatness of America, despite all its faults in the past.

A******n, same-sex marriage, and Second Amendment rights are not minor issues. Socialist programs are, of course, a great concern for a Republic. Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD. The willingness to stretch, to put personal concerns not aside but not maintained as an overriding priority without the possibility of an acceptable agreement, is crucial to finding a way for democracy to be the basis of our planet's existence.

Liberty for all and a future of democracy for humankind is entrusted to us in America, as Americans. Let's do this thing as -WE THE PEOPLE!

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

Strict compliance to the United States Constitution for everybody especially those in positions of authority like the Kenyan.

We the People must learn the LAW and enforce it as the founding fathers intended. Those of us knowing the LAW and are willing to enforce it must have the courage to do so.

Criminals must be opposed as commanded by the God of us all. Governments that do not OBEY the Law are invalid and illegal. We the People of America collectively are the SOVEREIGN RULERS of this Nation.

rumitoid

AGREED.

rumitoid

Perhaps what I said was too inclusive, too overboard "we the people." Maybe if I had targeted some group from inclusion, nesessarily and helpful to ease legal authority, more would approve of this blog. Most likely, exclusion would be more attractive. Irish Catholics, now there is anefarious bunch.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

rumitoid wrote:

I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is not, of course, my own idea but shared by most able-minded historians and thinkers. Had we but listened to our Declaration of Independence and made it to include from the start Negroes, women, native Americans, and those W****s without property, I feel the world would have been t***sformed and most of our future problems thoroughly obviated. Yet we did not.

And as a result we had an avoidable Civil War. And as a result we had an avoidable 100 year history of suppression of the indigenous people, breaking every agreement we ever made. So many detours and bumps and tragic twists that could have been avoided with a simple commitment to our founding documents.

The luxury and marvel of freedom of speech is not unlike the wonder and beauty of water: without it life as a viable person cannot truly exist. It is the very lifeblood of our existence, and of progress. That we have reached the very sad and sorry state in America where a difference of opinion does not inspire soul-searching arguments and spirited debate, a perhaps reluctant but nonetheless admiring glance across the aisle, yet rather automatic hatred and attack is an utter disgrace for the notion of freedom. Such an attitude speaks that we do not deserve it. And has made us savages.

Before the get-go of Revolution, there were fundamental and seemingly irreconcilable differences intra- and extra-mural of the colonies. Basic religious and economic concerns. A look from today's mindset of stalwart d******eness on these difficulties: absolutely impossible to come togetherand rightly so. Let's k**l each other. Somehow they did manage to come to compromise and put their differences aside for the greater good. THE GREATER GOOD: a crucial foundation of freedom and all but forgotten today.

It is all about we the people--and we will perpetually have differences of opinion and interests. Urban from rural. North from South. Industrial from Agricultural. Poor from Rich. Left from Right. It is not a versus unless we make it so. Do we therefore give up on trying to resolve these natural differences for THE GREATER GOOD or to forget the greatest and most wondrous and hope-filled expression of the dignity of humankind ever conceived in our Founding Documents? Do we forget the dead at Bunker Hill, the Alamo, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, or Hamburger Hill? Persevering in trying to maintain, strengthen, and enhance the ideals of America means at times eating crow, shaking hands with i***ts, or going home empty-handed. Yet I feel such ideals as conceived by our Founding Fathers are worthy of anyany and everysacrifice. Few seem to agree at One Political Plaza.

Disrespect for the presidency and government, as if neither are part of what makes America great, is ignorance. But I can understand the frustration which promotes attacks on both. We can be seriously wrong-headed about our direction and purpose, lost for a season or more and the prospects grim. Yet by God and the grace of our Constitution, we eventually put things right...given the chance. We presently still have a government that accepts such condemnation or rebuke and looks at itself. That is the greatness of America, despite all its faults in the past.

A******n, same-sex marriage, and Second Amendment rights are not minor issues. Socialist programs are, of course, a great concern for a Republic. Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD. The willingness to stretch, to put personal concerns not aside but not maintained as an overriding priority without the possibility of an acceptable agreement, is crucial to finding a way for democracy to be the basis of our planet's existence.

Liberty for all and a future of democracy for humankind is entrusted to us in America, as Americans. Let's do this thing as -WE THE PEOPLE!

I feel that the founding documents of America are ... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo: There isn't a liberal ideologue in the country that wants to go along and get along. They are in your face and want to control every aspect of your life. And, given OIllegal and your ilk wanting to and in the process of destroying our country as we have know it for 220 years prior to OIllegal taking office, I have a hard time believing you want to just sit down and hold hands and sign cum-by-ya. And whether you come to Jesus or not, OIllegal hasn't and wants and is about the process of destroying his political enemies, including specifically his IRS attack on conservatives.

Janc469

rumitoid wrote:

I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is not, of course, my own idea but shared by most able-minded historians and thinkers. Had we but listened to our Declaration of Independence and made it to include from the start Negroes, women, native Americans, and those W****s without property, I feel the world would have been t***sformed and most of our future problems thoroughly obviated. Yet we did not.

And as a result we had an avoidable Civil War. And as a result we had an avoidable 100 year history of suppression of the indigenous people, breaking every agreement we ever made. So many detours and bumps and tragic twists that could have been avoided with a simple commitment to our founding documents.

The luxury and marvel of freedom of speech is not unlike the wonder and beauty of water: without it life as a viable person cannot truly exist. It is the very lifeblood of our existence, and of progress. That we have reached the very sad and sorry state in America where a difference of opinion does not inspire soul-searching arguments and spirited debate, a perhaps reluctant but nonetheless admiring glance across the aisle, yet rather automatic hatred and attack is an utter disgrace for the notion of freedom. Such an attitude speaks that we do not deserve it. And has made us savages.

Before the get-go of Revolution, there were fundamental and seemingly irreconcilable differences intra- and extra-mural of the colonies. Basic religious and economic concerns. A look from today's mindset of stalwart d******eness on these difficulties: absolutely impossible to come togetherand rightly so. Let's k**l each other. Somehow they did manage to come to compromise and put their differences aside for the greater good. THE GREATER GOOD: a crucial foundation of freedom and all but forgotten today.

It is all about we the people--and we will perpetually have differences of opinion and interests. Urban from rural. North from South. Industrial from Agricultural. Poor from Rich. Left from Right. It is not a versus unless we make it so. Do we therefore give up on trying to resolve these natural differences for THE GREATER GOOD or to forget the greatest and most wondrous and hope-filled expression of the dignity of humankind ever conceived in our Founding Documents? Do we forget the dead at Bunker Hill, the Alamo, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, or Hamburger Hill? Persevering in trying to maintain, strengthen, and enhance the ideals of America means at times eating crow, shaking hands with i***ts, or going home empty-handed. Yet I feel such ideals as conceived by our Founding Fathers are worthy of anyany and everysacrifice. Few seem to agree at One Political Plaza.

Disrespect for the presidency and government, as if neither are part of what makes America great, is ignorance. But I can understand the frustration which promotes attacks on both. We can be seriously wrong-headed about our direction and purpose, lost for a season or more and the prospects grim. Yet by God and the grace of our Constitution, we eventually put things right...given the chance. We presently still have a government that accepts such condemnation or rebuke and looks at itself. That is the greatness of America, despite all its faults in the past.

A******n, same-sex marriage, and Second Amendment rights are not minor issues. Socialist programs are, of course, a great concern for a Republic. Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD. The willingness to stretch, to put personal concerns not aside but not maintained as an overriding priority without the possibility of an acceptable agreement, is crucial to finding a way for democracy to be the basis of our planet's existence.

Liberty for all and a future of democracy for humankind is entrusted to us in America, as Americans. Let's do this thing as -WE THE PEOPLE!

I feel that the founding documents of America are ... (show quote)

Janc469

Beautifully written description of the basics of our government outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Thank you for taking the time to write this.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

rumitoid wrote:

I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is not, of course, my own idea but shared by most able-minded historians and thinkers. Had we but listened to our Declaration of Independence and made it to include from the start Negroes, women, native Americans, and those W****s without property, I feel the world would have been t***sformed and most of our future problems thoroughly obviated. Yet we did not.

And as a result we had an avoidable Civil War. And as a result we had an avoidable 100 year history of suppression of the indigenous people, breaking every agreement we ever made. So many detours and bumps and tragic twists that could have been avoided with a simple commitment to our founding documents.

The luxury and marvel of freedom of speech is not unlike the wonder and beauty of water: without it life as a viable person cannot truly exist. It is the very lifeblood of our existence, and of progress. That we have reached the very sad and sorry state in America where a difference of opinion does not inspire soul-searching arguments and spirited debate, a perhaps reluctant but nonetheless admiring glance across the aisle, yet rather automatic hatred and attack is an utter disgrace for the notion of freedom. Such an attitude speaks that we do not deserve it. And has made us savages.

Before the get-go of Revolution, there were fundamental and seemingly irreconcilable differences intra- and extra-mural of the colonies. Basic religious and economic concerns. A look from today's mindset of stalwart d******eness on these difficulties: absolutely impossible to come togetherand rightly so. Let's k**l each other. Somehow they did manage to come to compromise and put their differences aside for the greater good. THE GREATER GOOD: a crucial foundation of freedom and all but forgotten today.

It is all about we the people--and we will perpetually have differences of opinion and interests. Urban from rural. North from South. Industrial from Agricultural. Poor from Rich. Left from Right. It is not a versus unless we make it so. Do we therefore give up on trying to resolve these natural differences for THE GREATER GOOD or to forget the greatest and most wondrous and hope-filled expression of the dignity of humankind ever conceived in our Founding Documents? Do we forget the dead at Bunker Hill, the Alamo, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, or Hamburger Hill? Persevering in trying to maintain, strengthen, and enhance the ideals of America means at times eating crow, shaking hands with i***ts, or going home empty-handed. Yet I feel such ideals as conceived by our Founding Fathers are worthy of anyany and everysacrifice. Few seem to agree at One Political Plaza.

Disrespect for the presidency and government, as if neither are part of what makes America great, is ignorance. But I can understand the frustration which promotes attacks on both. We can be seriously wrong-headed about our direction and purpose, lost for a season or more and the prospects grim. Yet by God and the grace of our Constitution, we eventually put things right...given the chance. We presently still have a government that accepts such condemnation or rebuke and looks at itself. That is the greatness of America, despite all its faults in the past.

A******n, same-sex marriage, and Second Amendment rights are not minor issues. Socialist programs are, of course, a great concern for a Republic. Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD. The willingness to stretch, to put personal concerns not aside but not maintained as an overriding priority without the possibility of an acceptable agreement, is crucial to finding a way for democracy to be the basis of our planet's existence.

Liberty for all and a future of democracy for humankind is entrusted to us in America, as Americans. Let's do this thing as -WE THE PEOPLE!

I feel that the founding documents of America are ... (show quote)

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Beautifully written, but I am not so sophisticated as to really understand what you are talking about in real terms.

For instance this sentence:
"Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD."
Half of this country is willing to give up freedoms for nefarious reasons - primarily because they don't recognize that giving an inch on most things is in actuality giving miles and miles due to incrementalism. So, exactly HOW do we "compromise" with people willing to tear down freedoms? Compromise is another word I do not care for. It's been said that compromise is the act of taking two good ideas, and turning them into one bad idea. I agree with that definition. Additionally, half the country sees very little value to the Constitution and wants to re-write it........and since that is too much trouble, they find judges to in essence re-write it. Some take it to the Supreme Court to be re-written.

And I do not even LIKE the term "THE GREATER GOOD". It is a term I associate with Socialism and C*******m, and neither of these has anything to do with "THE GREATER GOOD". Democrats in our country use that term to force more money from taxpayer's pockets - and they do NO GREATER GOOD with that money. So, I think a better explained phrase than "greater good" would be in order.

Re the respect for the government and the Presidency. I have respect for both - unfortunately the government and the President do NOT have respect for government or the Presidency - they are systematically destroying it. What we have now is NOT MY GOVERNMENT, NOR MY PRESIDENCY. MY government and MY president are honest people with integrity and their interest is my interest. MY government and MY president faithfully fulfill their oaths. I refuse to claim those who do NOT fulfill their duties, such as those who are currently in office

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Tasine wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br Beautifully written, but I ... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, Tasine: Well stated. Keep up your good work. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

grazeem Loc: Arizona

rumitoid wrote:

I feel that the founding documents of America are the most astonishing and progressive movement of humanity ever conceived, which is not, of course, my own idea but shared by most able-minded historians and thinkers. Had we but listened to our Declaration of Independence and made it to include from the start Negroes, women, native Americans, and those W****s without property, I feel the world would have been t***sformed and most of our future problems thoroughly obviated. Yet we did not.

And as a result we had an avoidable Civil War. And as a result we had an avoidable 100 year history of suppression of the indigenous people, breaking every agreement we ever made. So many detours and bumps and tragic twists that could have been avoided with a simple commitment to our founding documents.

The luxury and marvel of freedom of speech is not unlike the wonder and beauty of water: without it life as a viable person cannot truly exist. It is the very lifeblood of our existence, and of progress. That we have reached the very sad and sorry state in America where a difference of opinion does not inspire soul-searching arguments and spirited debate, a perhaps reluctant but nonetheless admiring glance across the aisle, yet rather automatic hatred and attack is an utter disgrace for the notion of freedom. Such an attitude speaks that we do not deserve it. And has made us savages.

Before the get-go of Revolution, there were fundamental and seemingly irreconcilable differences intra- and extra-mural of the colonies. Basic religious and economic concerns. A look from today's mindset of stalwart d******eness on these difficulties: absolutely impossible to come togetherand rightly so. Let's k**l each other. Somehow they did manage to come to compromise and put their differences aside for the greater good. THE GREATER GOOD: a crucial foundation of freedom and all but forgotten today.

It is all about we the people--and we will perpetually have differences of opinion and interests. Urban from rural. North from South. Industrial from Agricultural. Poor from Rich. Left from Right. It is not a versus unless we make it so. Do we therefore give up on trying to resolve these natural differences for THE GREATER GOOD or to forget the greatest and most wondrous and hope-filled expression of the dignity of humankind ever conceived in our Founding Documents? Do we forget the dead at Bunker Hill, the Alamo, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, or Hamburger Hill? Persevering in trying to maintain, strengthen, and enhance the ideals of America means at times eating crow, shaking hands with i***ts, or going home empty-handed. Yet I feel such ideals as conceived by our Founding Fathers are worthy of anyany and everysacrifice. Few seem to agree at One Political Plaza.

Disrespect for the presidency and government, as if neither are part of what makes America great, is ignorance. But I can understand the frustration which promotes attacks on both. We can be seriously wrong-headed about our direction and purpose, lost for a season or more and the prospects grim. Yet by God and the grace of our Constitution, we eventually put things right...given the chance. We presently still have a government that accepts such condemnation or rebuke and looks at itself. That is the greatness of America, despite all its faults in the past.

A******n, same-sex marriage, and Second Amendment rights are not minor issues. Socialist programs are, of course, a great concern for a Republic. Yet none of these issues is greater than our unity in basic freedoms, our capacity to work for THE GREATER GOOD. The willingness to stretch, to put personal concerns not aside but not maintained as an overriding priority without the possibility of an acceptable agreement, is crucial to finding a way for democracy to be the basis of our planet's existence.

Liberty for all and a future of democracy for humankind is entrusted to us in America, as Americans. Let's do this thing as -WE THE PEOPLE!

I feel that the founding documents of America are ... (show quote)

Well said

usmc4

rumitoid wrote:

Perhaps what I said was too inclusive, too overboard "we the people." Maybe if I had targeted some group from inclusion, nesessarily and helpful to ease legal authority, more would approve of this blog. Most likely, exclusion would be more attractive. Irish Catholics, now there is anefarious bunch.

I assume you mean the Kennedy clan? I wonder what political party their affiliated with? --- Can anyone help me with this?

Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede

rumitoid wrote:

Can we all get along and sing cum-ba-ya? I'm going to say comfort words like: America, Founding Father, Constitution to woo you into this false sense of reasonable concession. All the while I plan to slit your throats while you're all in a soma induced sleep like a good progressive plant that I am.

I see the deception here rumitoid, you do not fool me. Progressives are perfect predators. What gave you away was your title "True Americans." Only progressive cowards would brandish that title only to hide behind it like a human shield.

What is an "True American?" A conservative? A liberal? No, they're both just Americans even though the latter makes me wonder at times. Only an American h**er would call him or herself a True American. Akin to a wolf calling himself a sheep but is actually a wolf.

No compromise with Progressives. You give them an inch they take a mile.

Just like the deep sea angler fish with that pretty light on its head you lure us in with your poetry and sweet words of how great our founding fathers were and what they did and we must all come together like good gullible i***ts you think we are. Next thing we know we're fish bait. I will not allow you to lead these people astray.

No, rumitoid. We shall not compromise. If you become a constitutional scholar do you learn about this sacred document to protect it or to destroy it? The tyrant we elected is a constitutional scholar for reason and that is to know how to dismantle it. He hides behind it when it serves him and circumvent it when it impedes him.

No, rumitoid we shall not rally around this great deceiver. He needs to be held accountable. He is not the president of America he is the progressive's shining prince, an American Lenin, the far-left's president.

No, rumitoid it is not h**e that divides us. It is the natural animosity when one group of people uses the mob to bully, intimidate, indoctrinate, discriminate, dehumanize, delegitimize and ultimately destroy the opposition. By stealth (like you're doing) or through pure force.

It is only natural the body will produce white blood cells to combat an infection. Progressivism is an infection. Only worse this infection has mutated into autoimmune disease and the white blood cells fights the body.

We The People? You would prefer "We The Collective"....

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Ghost wrote:

I see the deception here rumitoid, you do not fool... (show quote)

Quid Pro Quo, Ghost: You saw right through the Machiavellian mental masturbation, thanks. :thumbup:

rumitoid

You make it an absolute that no liberal wants to get along: what does that do to any overture by a liberal? It is a ruse and oppose it. Do you see the ugliness and the problem that your thinking promotes?

rumitoid

A call to come together as citizens, an "e pluribus unum" appeal, gets misconstrued by paranoia and the blindness of h**e to be an attempt to disarm opposition against a "marxist takeover." WONDERLAND!