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martsiva

This is why I keep saying Biden`s mandates forcing people to get a shot of an experimental drug are illegal!!! The US signed on to these codes and Biden broke the law with his mandates!!!

straightUp Loc: California

The Nuremberg Code is something that I think liberals and conservatives alike will agree on.

straightUp Loc: California

WTF does that have to do with 5G?

But since your mentioned it... Biden didn't mandate the v*****e. At least not in the way you are suggesting. This is just another example of right wing media taking advantage of right-wing ignorance to distort the t***h which is that Biden's "mandate" was limited to his employees (federal workers). That means anyone who didn't want to be v******ted could always quit their job and then they would be off the hook. Some corporations in the private sector had similar mandates of their own. None of these mandates broke any laws.

But right wing media wants every one to think Biden was forcing ALL Americans to v******te. That actually a lie.

5G BTW, is fifth generation cellular technology, which has nothing to do with v*****es OR mandates... Here let Trump explain it for you... (This is an excerpt from his speech regarding 5G deployment back in April of 2019).

"It’s all about 5G now. We were at 4G, and everybody was saying, “We have to get 4G.” And then they said, before that, “We have to get 3G.” And now we have to get 5G, and 5G is a big deal. And that’s going to be there for a while."

Spoken like someone who really knows what he's talking about. LOL

martsiva

What in the hell are you talking about?? YOU point out where I said ANYTHING about 5G!! You saying Biden didn`t mandate this false 'v*****e' is a bold face lie!! Yes he did on his own employees and he broke the Nuremberg Code law in doing so and that was illegal!! I never said a thing about the whole population and you saying I did came from your own imagination just like your comment about 5G did!!! Yeah your compassion for people having to look for other work is pathetic!! YES these mandates DID break the Nuremberg Code law that the US signed on to!! Now you go back into your little fantasy world and learn read comprehension because you sure didn`t show any here!!!

straightUp Loc: California

My bad... I thought you were responding to a different OP.


I said he didn't mandate it in the way you are thinking. When someone says a president of a country mandates something the common assumption is that the mandate applies to the entire country. Biden was only mandating the v*****e within the federal government were people are technically working for him.


I see the argument you are trying to make here, but I don't think it would fly in a court of justice. The Nuremburg Code says that people should remain under their own free will. All federal employees are working in the government out of their own free will and anyone of them could have opted out of that arrangement at any time. The Nuremberg Code was a reaction to the N**i programs where subjects did NOT have that option.

Also, bear in mind that the Nuremberg code was never accepted as law by the United States. So even if Biden DID break the Nuremberg code, there is not a single law in the US Code that would make it illegal.

Also, I think you folks are really stretching this whole "experimental" thing. The v*****es developed by P****r and M*****a were tested rigorously with expected results. The reason why there was ANY issue was that the FDA has a long term wait period where results from v*****es can be measured for long term effects. But when there's a fast spreading p******c threating to k**l thousands of people in a matter of days someone has to make a call.

I think it was a good call. It was an exceptional situation that called for an exception to the rule. Millions more could have died if we decided to wait around for a year to be absolutely sure. BTW, that waiting period did eventually expire and the FDA approved the v*****e 100% in April of 2021. So by the time Biden was mandating the v*****e in the federal government, it simply wasn't experimental anymore.

So that's FOUR gaping flaws in your argument.


say what you want, the fact remains - they DID have a choice


No, the U.S. never ratified the Nuremberg Code. If they did, you would be able to find the event and even the signatures since all laws are in the public domain. I tell ya what... Show me where the Nurembeg Code was ratified by the U.S. as law and I'll take back what I'm about to say...

I think you so desperately WANT your claims to be true that you aren't even bothering to fact check your own crap. I see this all the time, especially from Trump supporters who are so pissed off that their idol is getting indicted and impeached for all these crimes that they're spinning their wheels looking for ANYTHING that can possibly be construed as a crime committed by Biden.

I can't remember if you're a Trump supporter but your fanciful claims give me the impression that you are.

martsiva

YES the US did codify the Nuremberg Codes in the US Code of Federal Regulations! It was also codified in the US Civil Rights Act! Title 7 in the Civil Rights Act!! I`ve done the research and what I posted is true!! Now you fact check your crap and your fanciful claims!! YOU point out where this has anything to do with Trump!! I am an Independent but as usual, being the nice little brainwashed Democrat that you are, you bring Trump into things that has NOTHING to do with him!!! You support Biden who has ALLOWED a Chinese c*******t plane fly over our nuclear sites!! You support a man who`s family has received millions of dollars from an enemy of this nation!! You support a man who puts Americans last that was on full display when he donates billions to Ukraine and less than 6 million to Americans in Maui!! You support a man who has created the worst border crisis in US history!! It`s obvious that what Democrats in NYC and Chicago have learned about Biden`s border policies and how they are hurting the people there went right over your head!! I am not a Republican nor a Democrat and have v**ed for both but when I see all of the damage Biden and his Democrats have done to this country there is NO way I`d ever v**e for any Democrat!! You just keep living in your little bubble world until all this damage comes and bites you just like it has done in NYC and Chicago!!

straightUp Loc: California

First of all, the US Code of Federal Regulations lists rules, not laws. For future reference, laws can ONLY be legislated by Congress and signed into law by the president and they go in the U.S. Code, not the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations. Such rules can ONLY be references to laws... usually for the purpose of implementation or enforcement.

This means that if someone breaks a rule in the register, it doesn't necessarily mean they broke a law. It's like breaking the dress code at a school. Doing so breaks a rule but it's not actually illegal.

That being said... The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations is massive. So if you can point to the specific rule that you are referring, since you did all the research, that would be good.


Where? Title 7 of the starts off describing the overall purpose of the act as...

1. To enforce the constitutional right to v**e
2. to confer jurisdiction upon the district courts of the United States to provide injunctive relief against discrimination in public accommodations.
3. to authorize the attorney General to institute suits to protect constitutional rights in public facilities and public education
4. to extend the Commission on Civil Rights, to prevent discrimination in federally assisted programs
5. to establish a Commission on Equal Employment Opportunity
6. and for other purposes.

So if protecting people from "experimental" v*****es are in there, it would have to be under "other purposes" because it sure as hell doesn't fit any of the specifically mentioned categories.

So, again, if you could point to the specific part of Title 7 where the Nuremberg Code is codified as law it would be better than just waving the book around and saying it's in there somewhere.


Well, you're SAYING it's true. But so far I'm, not seeing any proof. Whether a law exists or not is one of the simplest things to prove, just link to the law. So, it should be easy for to do, especially after all that research you did.

At this point, you only addressed one of the four gaping holes that I pointed out in your theory.

You haven't addressed the fact that federal employees do have the right to quit their jobs, which which invalidates the claim that they were being experimented on against their own free will. As I said, the Nuremberg Code was a response to the fact that the people being experimented on in N**i Germany did not have ANY option to leave.

You haven't addressed the fact that the FDA did actually approve the v*****es before Biden mandated them either, which takes away the argument that the v*****es were "experimental" (which was a weak argument to start with).


I'm not the one making fanciful claims, you are. I'm just saying that I haven't seen any proof that your claim is valid.


I never claimed that Trump had anything to do with it. But since you mentioned him, I'll point out your astounding hypocrisy by reminding you that Trump was busy telling Americans to use all kinds of unproven therapies such as bleach and chloroquine. In fact, an American who acted on Trump's i***t advice actually died from the ingestion of chloroquine and that's when medical researchers launched an investigation into the impact of Trump's stupidity.

https://www.jmir.org/2020/11/e20044/


First of all, I'm not a Democrat and secondly, I didn't even mention Trump until the very end of my post when I was referring to the idiocy of Trump supporters.


Not sure what this has to do with the v*****es or the Nuremberg Code... I'm guessing that after a few generalized statements, your knowledge on the subject is already exhausted but since the REAL issue of your concern is just to throw mud at Biden, you felt compelled to throw in some more ridiculous claims.

I don't actually support EVERYTHING Biden does but yes, I do prefer him to that r****d that preceded him. Also, the Chinese have been flying planes and satellites over our nuclear facilities for years. Only a moron could think that the Chinese never thought to do that until 2021.

I just one one question on this point... You made a reference to a "Chinese c*******t plane"... I'm curious, what exactly makes an airplane c*******t?


Wow, you just eat up all that crap, don't you? If you're referring to the popular conspiracy theories that Biden's were getting millions from Ukraine, let me remind you of two things...

1. It hasn't been proven - in fact there isn't even any evidence.
2. Ukraine is NOT our enemy


1. Biden doesn't even have the authority to make these decisions. Congress decides where federal money goes. Boy, you really try hard don't you?


I would give that credit to Trump. He's the one who came up with that brilliant "Stay in Mexico" policy which effectively backed up the lines, creating a humanitarian crises. Biden started processing them because unlike Trump, Biden actually cares if men, women and children are dying of starvation, diseases and exposure.


OK, so now you're saying that things we haven't even talked about are going over my head. You're really not making a very good impression.


That sounds like a perfect description of someone who doesn't know how to assess policies on their own merit and prefers to just follow a herd.


New York and Chicago have long histories of immigration. This is nothing new to them. New York was processing immigrants long before Texas even became a state. I'm sure they will figure something out just like they always have. The good news is that the lives of these immigrant are no longer in the hands of incompetent leaders in Texas and Florida. The best thing those states could have done when they were freaking out about the immigrants is to send them to states like New York where leaders are smarter and the people are stronger.