I have always wanted to write a definitive post on the gun problem. Today, I began it, and I hope to finish it today. Here is the first draft!

The Problem

We have a gun-happy society, and unfortunately, too many shooters that take the lives of many people and wound many more.
So, the problem statement is rather simple: What to do to stop the k*****g and wounding?

We have a abundance of laws on the books in every State, County and City that should help the situation, but the fact is the laws do not work. This is quite evident as the news will attest today, tomorrow and on into the future.

Many believe that by physically removing all guns, or removing some types of guns from public hands, the situation will dramatically improve. I differ strongly on quite a number of counts:
1) Removing guns from the public will make the public much more vulnerable to criminal elements;
2) The criminal is not deterred by laws, is most likely not to be found to confiscate his weapons, and is most certainly able to purchase guns on the black market, or even from friends and acquaintances. So, the threat has not been deterred at all. In fact, the public would be far more threatened than before;
3) The mentally-deficient persons that load up and go on a shooting spree might be deterred from finding a gun, since there wouldn't be any nearby. This is the principal excuse some have to confiscate our weapons. The case of mental deficiency represents the primary challenge to all of us that abhor the current situation.
4) It appears that the school system, parents, police and the medical profession collectively do not have a definitive solution to the mentally-challenged individual that grabs a gun and goes k*****g.
5) The educators do not want to be sued if they do something about their observation of a deficient student. The parents are reluctant to act on their offspring, and the police must act within their policies, which excludes many deterrent acts. The medical profession is quite reluctant to pass judgment on a person openly without extreme proof of their danger to the public, and they too, want to avoid lawsuits.
6) It is a well-known fact that over two million encounters of citizens with a criminal occur every year where the armed citizen managed to resolve the situation satisfactorily. Often, simply showing a weapon is sufficient to ward off criminals.
7) All of us are aware that calling 911 for the police is necessary in such an encounter, but one must not forget that the police are from 5 to 20 minutes away, which gives the criminal sufficient time to wreck havoc in many quite unpleasant ways from basic robbery to rape and murder. That is what the defensive weapons are owned for: to thwart the criminal before the police arrive.
8) Even partial solutions such as banning the AR-15-style of automatic weapons, and high-capacity magazines is whistling in the dark. Many of the shootings have been done with pistols, but few have been done with rifles. This is a ready-fire-aim solution. (Incidentally, I agree with banning fully-automatic weapons, pistol, carbine or rifle, from the public.)

What is very obvious indeed is that it isn't the gun that k**ls, it is the deficient person with a gun that k**ls. A gun is an inanimate object. So, the focus ought to be on prevention of such deficient people from acquiring a weapon at all, ever! It is also obvious that if criminals can use the backdoor to get a weapon, so can the deficient! He can find a way to steal it, too, or find it in the home, where parents are remiss in locking their weapons up very securely.

This appears to me to be the dilemma we are in, and sitting here in my home today I do not have a solid answer to the deficient person problem: how they are identified early enough; or what can be done to ensure they do not go on a k*****g spree with any sort of weapon, such as a gun or even a knife, machete, baseball bat or chainsaw, for instance.

What I am sure of is that I have the weapons at hand to defend myself, and so do millions of our citizens! And I am convinced that taking weapons away from the citizenry is not only contrary to the Constitution, it exposes all of us to the criminal elements in a serious way, and those elements are quite aware of the eventual possibilities presented to them from unarmed homes.

If I have left out any significant elements here, I would appreciate being told!

Bulls**t!

The "scary black military look" is precisely why l*****t gun grabbers have politically designated the AR15 as an "assault rifle". They are full of s**t. And if you think the "scary black military look" is a selling point, you're full of s**t.

Over the years, I've bought a number of AR15s - A Colt Sporter, a Bushmaster, a DPMS carbine, a Rock River Arms carbine - and I sure as hell didn't buy them for their looks, I bought them for their versatility, their semi-auto function, their accuracy, their reliability, ease of maintenance, availability of ammo, and a host of other reasons that have nothing to do with what they look like.

T***h is, the AR15 and similar platforms and variants have been used far more often in defense of life and property than they have been used in committing a crime.

Even women and children have no problem shooting an AR15.

Geez blade... do you understand you are not the only person who has bought an AR-15 or its cousins??
I have heard the brainless gotta have that gun nuts, several times admire the black, military, dangerous look of the assault style rifles.. I have heard gun sales men mention the look and name as great selling points..

As for the accuracy you post about each time this subject gets on a thread... Do you recall, if you ever knew.. the military changed the accuracy standards to accommodate the M-16 when they decided to replace the m-14... many a nasty old marine cursed the change from stressing accuracy to the simple number of rounds on target...

to claim accuracy for the assault rifles is simply wishful thinking..

So to finish up.. while you may not give a rats asss about the look of your gun, a great number of wanna be bad dudes are sold by the look more than anything else..

Did someone try and tell you the assault style rifle was difficult to shoot???? If not, why the comment..

sorry I was a bit tardy.. on this last hot day of summer, the electricity goes out, not once but twice so I took a marrieds lady I know well out to the new Pizza Ranch only 15 miles for our door and enjoyed the taste of assorted creations.. i also had a bunch of chicken.. fun end and when we got back the juice was restored... Yippee...

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Nobody wants to away everybody’s guns.
They want assault looking weapons like the AR15 off of the streets.
The glorification of the AR15 is the problem. It has become the end all problem solver .
I’m sure no other weapon gives the bearor the superiority over all of life’s problems , as deranged as that seems.
People want these guns off of our streets .
Everything thing else is smoke and mirrors.
Just take the ffing guns off of the streets. With severe penalties for illegal ownership./or possession.
Why is this such a hard thing to accomplish.
We had laws banning Thompson machine guns., banning silencers , made it illegal to cut off shotgun barrels. We had laws at one time. T***sporting guns had to be broken down and in a different part of the car from the ammo. We had laws.
Nobody was upset by these laws. They kept people safe.
Today we are unsafe over a second amendment argument.
Never brought to light before.
Do you really have a right to die over the 2nd Amendment.

Geez blade... do you understand you are not the only person who has bought an AR-15 or its cousins??
I have heard the brainless gotta have that gun nuts, several times admire the black, military, dangerous look of the assault style rifles.. I have heard gun sales men mention the look and name as great selling points..

As for the accuracy you post about each time this subject gets on a thread... Do you recall, if you ever knew.. the military changed the accuracy standards to accommodate the M-16 when they decided to replace the m-14... many a nasty old marine cursed the change from stressing accuracy to the simple number of rounds on target...

to claim accuracy for the assault rifles is simply wishful thinking..

So to finish up.. while you may not give a rats asss about the look of your gun, a great number of wanna be bad dudes are sold by the look more than anything else..

Did someone try and tell you the assault style rifle was difficult to shoot???? If not, why the comment..

sorry I was a bit tardy.. on this last hot day of summer, the electricity goes out, not once but twice so I took a marrieds lady I know well out to the new Pizza Ranch only 15 miles for our door and enjoyed the taste of assorted creations.. i also had a bunch of chicken.. fun end and when we got back the juice was restored... Yippee...

Leave just showing first color change and forecast claims no more hot weather..

Before the democrats (Bubba Clinton) politicized the definition of an assault rifle and banned them for ten years, the only firearm I knew of that was actually designated an assault rifle by contract with the government and given its name by the leader of the nation, is the Sturmgewehr 44.

Sturm means Storm.
gewehr means rifle.
Storm rifle, assault weapon.

The Sturmgewehr 44 is a select fire, medium range, infantry rifle. 30 round mag. 7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge.
Kalashnikov based his AK47 on the Stg 44.

Before the democrats (Bubba Clinton) politicized the definition of an assault rifle and banned them for ten years, the only firearm I knew of that was actually designated an assault rifle by contract with the government and given its name by the leader of the nation, is the Sturmgewehr 44.

Sturm means Storm.
gewehr means rifle.
Storm rifle, assault weapon.

The Sturmgewehr 44 is a select fire, medium range, infantry rifle. 30 round mag. 7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge.
Kalashnikov based his AK47 on the Stg 44.

How many would pick up An AR15 painted Hot electric Pink ?
It’s the motivation of these people.
The rifle is a secondary commitment.
Can you sit and think , I could solve these problems if I just had an AR15.
Me either , but , there is an unhealthy attraction to these guns .
Why do we need assault weapons , a rifle only used for k*****g humans, on our streets ?
If you show up on the streets with obe of these in your hands , you should be shot immediately as a Domestic Terrorist.
There is no good reason for the public to have these types of weapons. They should be military issue only.
Owning one by permit only.
They are not hunting weapons . Unless you are hunting humans. Electric Hot Pink until
They’re all off the streets.
If you show up on the street with one you will be shot.

I think no matter what some may say about accuracy of the ar rifles.. I will always remain moulded by the comments of those nasty old Marines who considered them junk..

As for all the comments about guns saving countless lives.. I find it impossible to accept most of these widely varied numbers that are tossed out.. in all my years, with guns all around and everywhere.. I have only heard of a handful of times when guns were the saving method of potential victims.. But I do know of one incident is which the good guy with a gun tryed to help police and got shot by the police.. as the guy they did not know who had a gun, he was a legitimate target... that could be anomaly or the rule. Not sure which, but it should be considered..

But I will make an admission... I do think that the supposed fact that a store owner or some person is armed and willing to shoot does stop many from considering such a place as a target..

I have heard of that German rifle, but never seen one or even a good description until yours.. good info..

Geez blade... do you understand you are not the only person who has bought an AR-15 or its cousins??
I have heard the brainless gotta have that gun nuts, several times admire the black, military, dangerous look of the assault style rifles.. I have heard gun sales men mention the look and name as great selling points..

As for the accuracy you post about each time this subject gets on a thread... Do you recall, if you ever knew.. the military changed the accuracy standards to accommodate the M-16 when they decided to replace the m-14... many a nasty old marine cursed the change from stressing accuracy to the simple number of rounds on target...

to claim accuracy for the assault rifles is simply wishful thinking..

So to finish up.. while you may not give a rats asss about the look of your gun, a great number of wanna be bad dudes are sold by the look more than anything else..

Did someone try and tell you the assault style rifle was difficult to shoot???? If not, why the comment..

sorry I was a bit tardy.. on this last hot day of summer, the electricity goes out, not once but twice so I took a marrieds lady I know well out to the new Pizza Ranch only 15 miles for our door and enjoyed the taste of assorted creations.. i also had a bunch of chicken.. fun end and when we got back the juice was restored... Yippee...

Leave just showing first color change and forecast claims no more hot weather..