permafrost Loc: Minnesota

This is only to satisfy my curiosity...

As some of you may know, Minnesota at the moment is 100% blue state.. all government and every state wide pol is a Democrat..

So laws passed like never before.. Even a shot at gun responsibility..

Now this got a bit complicated.. joined with regulations from the 90s and covering a number of POV it included making gun t***sfers to require a background check even via private sales.. the penalty for crimes via guns also increased..

And the section of gun regulations include the description of assault style rifles which has been on the book from the 90s.. Just for fun and giggles.. I will include that small part of a quite long regulation which includes many regulations for guns.. Recall that Minnesota has tons of guns.. we have more guns per capita then Texas and Oklahoma.. that will give you an idea of our love of guns ...

So this is what I would like to see comments on.. many have asked the question on OPP,,, " what is an assault rifle".. This is one partial answer..



Subd. 7.Semiautomatic military-style assault weapon. "Semiautomatic military-style assault weapon" means:
(1) any of the following firearms:

(i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK-47) semiautomatic rifle type;

(ii) Beretta AR-70 and BM-59 semiautomatic rifle types;

(iii) Colt AR-15 semiautomatic rifle type;

(iv) Daewoo Max-1 and Max-2 semiautomatic rifle types;

(v) Famas MAS semiautomatic rifle type;

(vi) Fabrique Nationale FN-LAR and FN-FNC semiautomatic rifle types;

(vii) Galil semiautomatic rifle type;

(viii) Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, and HK-94 semiautomatic rifle types;

(ix) Ingram MAC-10 and MAC-11 semiautomatic pistol and carbine types;

(x) Intratec TEC-9 semiautomatic pistol type;

(xi) Sigarms SIG 550SP and SIG 551SP semiautomatic rifle types;

(xii) SKS with detachable magazine semiautomatic rifle type;

(xiii) Steyr AUG semiautomatic rifle type;

(xiv) Street Sweeper and Striker-12 revolving-cylinder shotgun types;

(xv) USAS-12 semiautomatic shotgun type;

(xvi) Uzi semiautomatic pistol and carbine types; or

(xvii) Valmet M76 and M78 semiautomatic rifle types;

(2) any firearm that is another model made by the same manufacturer as one of the firearms listed in clause (1), and has the same action design as one of the listed firearms, and is a redesigned, renamed, or renumbered version of one of the firearms listed in clause (1), or has a slight modification or enhancement, including but not limited to a folding or retractable stock; adjustable sight; case deflector for left-handed shooters; shorter barrel; wooden, plastic, or metal stock; larger clip size; different caliber; or a bayonet mount; and

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

What is the definition of "military-style" and "assault"?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

CAR15s are Assault Rifles - no other purpose.
Military style rifles are the ominous looking scary AR15. Not used by the military .AR15 style .
Civilian grade.
Because it looks cool ,
And Ominous .
That’s the attraction .
They look ominous .
Like some thing bad is getting ready to happen .
Glorified in movies .
Representing the
Last Word !

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Hey dummy... you didn't answer my question.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Civilian AR15s are not military grade.
They are military style.
Assault rifles have no other purpose .
And should not be available to civilians.
Capece ?

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Tou STILL haven't answered my question.

BIRDMAN

They are not available to citizens. And very good on the CAR-15

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

Notice all the rifles listed are semiautomatic, not an assault rifle. Assault rifles are fully automatic by definition. Those scary looking guns account for a small percentage of gun crime. But oh, they look so scary, right milqetoast0.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Hello Bill.... sorry I am late... took a lovely lady shopping and that changes from running errands to exploring possibilities, if not for now.. maybe latter.. and chews up the whole day..

Yes, all those listed guns are semiautos.. if you went to the law...darn did I link it... Maybe my bad.. but the law is very clear.. these are military assault STYLED rifles and the law addresses not just those listed but also similar and those changed ## By making slight changes.. and this , the descriptive part of the law is not new, has been on the books since the 1990s... anyway that part of the law is not confined to those listed, it is addressing the style and the fact they are modeled after military rifles...

BTW, to my knowledge the military, or at least the Marines do not label any gun as an "assault" weapon... in the world of marines,,, any gun or even a different weapon can be used to assault the enemy...

I don't know why the terminology is so difficult for some people to grasp.. the "style" is what makes these rifles so popular. for some the black military style is the real reason they want them so strongly..

Now as I sit down and ponder my post... the law, the new part, is about procedure to purchase and own one of these rifles or a hand gun.. MMMM, do not think I posted that explanation.. it is not at all about forbidding ownership..

Sorry if the post was not so good..

However, I am looking for input on it.. Lot of new laws in effect as of Aug 1, 2023.. Guns only a part of them..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Hi Parky... was out and about .. sorry, see my post down the page.. maybe clear up some of the stuff I did not get in the OP....

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

The original assault weapon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

Today's semiautomatic aren't anything like this.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Very interesting article... I have never seen it before.. thanks for the info.. surprising to find that after so many times finding that the term is a sales tool, army actually has a definition for them.. big surprise...

and good to know.. Thanks again..

F.D.R.

Not a single weapon mentioned in the list is an 'assault' rifle by definition. In reality any firearm could be considered an 'assault' weapon. We then also have the 'assault' brick, knife, golf club, baseball bat, table lamp, tire iron, stick, fork, frying pan, hammer, screw driver and many many more everyday items. OH, and lest I forget my own personal favorite assault weapon, a cordless drill with spade bit.

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

lOOKS LIKE AMERICANS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO THROW "TACOS", AT MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL DEALERS?

HAND FULLS OF RICE AT CHINESE C*******T MURDERERS?