eagleye13 Loc: Fl

The biggest cover up of all cover ups.


911 3rd Tower Collapse WTC7 Compilation Raw Footage
https://youtu.be/8WNk674LZrI

Carol Kelly

How did that not get publicity. Operation Mockingbird?

Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana

I don't believe the official 911 report at all.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Probably because it is just more 9/11 conspiracy bulls**t.

Anyone who believes the speculations of news reporters a mile from the building are proof of controlled demolition is dumber than a r****ded ape.

I'll go with the accounts of the FDNY firefighters on the scene.
Chief Daniel Nigro and the men who fought the fires in building 7, or tried to,
tell a very different story.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Building 7 was not hit by a plane.

911 3rd Tower Collapse WTC7 Compilation Raw Footage
https://youtu.be/8WNk674LZrI

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Well Blade, you say "I'll go with the accounts of the FDNY firefighters on the scene.

If you mean what you say, then read the following, and reconsider your demeaning "dumber than a r****ded ape" comment!

https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Sep11PentagonsBMovie/118Witnesses-WTC-082106.pdf

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

As I recall; firefighters were interviewed of them stating that they heard the explosions.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

That is exactly so. And many cops said the same thing. https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Sep11PentagonsBMovie/EyewitnessExplosnsTwinTowersSlides.pdf

Mogon

There was a picture of the aftermath when the smoke cleared that positively showed that shape charges were used on the vertical support beams, funny we can’t find that picture on the internet anymore.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, when thousands of tons of steel and concrete progressively collapse floor upon floor you're gonna HEAR what sounds like explosions. But no one reported they actually SAW an explosion.

Reason being is that explosives, such those commonly used for controlled demolition like dynamite or RDX, have detonation velocities in the neighborhood of 17,000mph, which is about the same velocity necessary to put a space shuttle in orbit.

Had there been such detonations on every floor as the building came down, in all that dust and debris, we would have clearly seen the blast waves.

Furthermore, in order for an explosive charge to sever a steel beam, the charge must be embedded in or attached directly to the steel.This would have required access to the steel and in order to do that, sections of walls, elevator shafts, air ducts, plumbing, electric cable shafts and conduit would have to have been removed. Then you have debris removal to contend with.

This work would have required power tools, air tools, gas and electric torches, and a wide variety of special tools.
Installing an explosive matrix on every floor is logistically and financially prohibitive for the simple reason it isn't necessary. The amount explosives and associated firing circuits including det cord and detonators would have been in the tons. The continuity of the electric or electronic firing circuits throughout the entire complex would have to have been checked, rechecked, and undisturbed for wh**ever time was necessary before detonation.

Before the explosives and associated wiring, sequence relays, and detonators are brought into the building, all electric power to the building would have to have been shut down and once the charges are in place, then the detonators are brought in and they would have to have been shielded against radio, television and high frequency t***smissions.

With such a complex and massive demolition matrix, the timing of the detonations in exact sequence would have required computer control.

Moreover, the impact force of a 130 ton jet flying at near 500mph has been calculated as equivalent to the detonation of just under a ton of TNT. The impact and subsequent fuel explosion and fires would have either detonated, burned or destroyed any demolition charges and firing circuits in the impact zone.

The notion that such a demolition matrix could have been installed in a total of around 260 floors over a total of nearly 3000 feet is ludicrous, the work necessary to accomplish such a feat would have taken a 100 man crew over six to nine months to complete. This could not possibly have been accomplished in complete secrecy.

I didn't spend hours on demolition contractors websites researching the process of setting up a controlled demolition and not learn anything. In fact, Protech Solutions, a company that specializes in commercial, industrial and medical facility demolition, published a detailed paper on the theory the WTC was destroyed through CD. They shredded that theory piece by piece. It simply did not happen.

Regardless of what firefighters or anyone else may have heard when those buildings came down, the belief that they heard the detonations of explosive charges is ridiculous.

But what really solidified it for me is the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 t***h video titled "The Experts Speak Out".
That is a mind blower, man, I mean seriously, for men supposedly trained and experienced in building design and construction to make some of the claims they made in that video is appalling. I could give you one example that stands out above all the others. David Chandler, a HS physics teacher with a BS in physics, and his case the BS doesn't stand for Bachelor of Science. He must have thought that everyone in his audience was a knuckle d**gging i***t. If you want to hear some real junk science, lemme know.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Blade; How do you explain the tons and tons of pulverized concrete dust instead of chunks?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Bade, we have previously clashed on this issue in the past. I don't have the time to attempt to rebut all of the points you raise in this post. But, here are 4 the points I'd like to make.

1. I simply call your attention to the 11 concrete and steel buildings that burned far longer than the two World Trade Center Buildings, none of which collapsed. This says nothing about Building 7 which was not even hit by a plane.

2. You say, "Had there been such detonations on every floor as the building came down, in all that dust and debris, we would have clearly seen the blast waves." Correct, and you can see them in the following pictures (unless you are willfully blind).

3. You make a big issue about how hard it would be to rig the building with explosives with your following statement: "This work would have required power tools, air tools, gas and electric torches, and a wide variety of special tools. Installing an explosive matrix on every floor is logistically and financially prohibitive for the simple reason it isn't necessary. The amount explosives and associated firing circuits including det cord and detonators would have been in the tons. The continuity of the electric or electronic firing circuits throughout the entire complex would have to have been checked, rechecked, and undisturbed for wh**ever time was necessary before detonation." NOT TRUE - Here is one possible alternative explanation.
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/9-11-wiring-the-buildings/?omhide=true

4.I take issue with your response regarding the A&E's for 9-11 T***h -

You say "David Chandler, a HS physics teacher with a BS in physics, and his case the BS doesn't stand for Bachelor of Science. He must have thought that everyone in his audience was a knuckle d**gging i***t. If you want to hear some real junk science, lemme know."

Yet you do not go into any detail of what David Chandler said that is factually in error, or provide what you believe is the correct information. Using the term "junk science" is an attempt to use an "ad hominem" attack without providing a factual basis for your statement.


https://serendipity.li/wot/other_fires/other_fires.htm

Molten Metal
Workers Reported Molten Metal in Ground Zero Rubble
https://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltensteel.html

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

And don't forget the a******l "puts" to buys in the stock market.
Some people knew something.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

That too!

Mogon

For the one tower that was struck on the corner, not through the middle, it would have melted that one corner and the tower above it would have fallen to that side. It would have never came straight down.

I’ve always said it’s was an inside job to give the Washington war mongers an excuse to start a war.

Even the democratic pos Moore, made the point that it was blown up by charges in his documentary video, showing in slow motion the windows being blown out in sequence.

If memory serves me right, Bush Sr was having lunch with Bin Laden’s brother in the Middle East when it happened.

So many coincidences , when many coincidences happen at the same time ….
It’s no coincidence!