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Aug 2, 2023 12:16:05   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

The latest raft of charges the former president faces has to do with his actions in the days and weeks leading up to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol incursion. The grand jury looking into the events of that day charged him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of official proceedings and conspiracy against v**ers’ rights.

Six co-conspirators also had their actions described in the indictment. The indictment doesn’t name them directly, although The Wall Street Journal notes that five of them line up neatly with what we know about the roles played by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, John Eastman and Sidney Powell, and former Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark in the aftermath of the 2020 e******n.

We’ve known for a while that such an indictment was possible — if not probable — so Tuesday’s development was hardly a surprise. But the potential repercussions from one of the charges that Trump faces is likely to be turning some heads in the coming days.

As Breitbart editor Joel B. Pollak noted in on social media, “it’s not just about ‘jailing’ Biden’s opponent” — at least not anymore.

One of the charges that Trump faces is 18 U.S. Code § 241, which states as follows:

“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or … [i[f two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.” [Emphasis ours.]

Do you think prosecutors would seek the death penalty against Trump?
Yes: 51% (86 V**es)
No: 49% (82 V**es)
As Pollak noted at Breitbart, “One person — Ashli Babbitt, a r****r shot by a law enforcement officer — died as a result of the Capitol r**t on J****** 6, which Smith said Tuesday was the result of Trump’s claims about the e******n. But Democrats have blamed Trump for the unrelated deaths of several protesters and C*****l P****e officers.”

“Democrats — and some of Trump’s Republican opponents — have also tried to blame him for apparent efforts by some of the r****rs to kidnap then-Vice President Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Smith could try to argue the same.”

Now, it is worth noting that, in the 45-page indictment, there’s nothing connecting Trump to any act of so-called “i**********n” on J*** 6, as the Journal noted in an editorial after the charges were made public: “Instead the indictment charges one obstruction and three conspiracy counts related to what it claims was a broad effort to overturn the 2020 e******n based on ‘dishonesty, fraud, and deceit,’” the paper noted.

Thus, it may be difficult to connect the former president with the death of Babbitt, given that most of the charges deal with behavior before J*** 6.

Still, the law states “if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section,” then a death sentence for the defendant is on the table. Babbit’s death no doubt resulted from the incursion.

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.

Regardless, the other charges also carry up to 20 years in prison, bringing a total if the terms were to run consecutively to 55 years. If Trump were convicted of everything Jack Smith has charged him with, and all of Trump’s terms were to run consecutively, he’d be in prison for over half a millennium.

Considering Trump is 77 years old, practically any of these charges — if Trump were to be found guilty and prosecutors were to push for the maximum — would likely lead to the former president spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

It’s also worth noting that this indictment wasn’t met with as much enthusiasm as the first round of charges from Smith outside of reliably liberal corners of the media. (The progressive website Salon, for instance, trumpeted the news with the headline: “Trump finally indicted for J*** 6 plot: Here’s why this is the big one.”)

According to Breitbart, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told Fox News that there was “less than meets the eye in this indictment.

“I thought the last indictment was a very serious threat for Donald Trump. When I take a red pen through material that is protected by the First Amendment, it reduces much of this to a haiku. Many of the things that the prosecutor is charging here [are] protected speech,” Turkey said.

“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”

Turley also likened the case to Smith’s prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who was convicted of corruption in 2014 in a case that was in an 8-0 decision by the Supreme Court in 2016. (The seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia was vacant at the time.)

“And this reminds me of sort of the [McDonnell] complaint, where he took the Virginia governor, got a conviction, and then it was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court,” Turley said. “It is a bridge too far.”

Yes, even in Washington, D.C., even with a judge who’s been one of the harshest when it comes to sentencing convicted participants in the Capitol incursion, according to The Associated Press, the charges and the amount of time they carry — even potentially a death penalty — may simply be too much of an ask.

The fact the prosecutor could potentially look to ask it in the first place, however, should be disturbing enough for most Americans.

https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-face-death-penalty-charge-brought-jack-smith/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune

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Aug 2, 2023 13:05:00   #
Kevyn
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

The latest raft of charges the former president faces has to do with his actions in the days and weeks leading up to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol incursion. The grand jury looking into the events of that day charged him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of official proceedings and conspiracy against v**ers’ rights.

Six co-conspirators also had their actions described in the indictment. The indictment doesn’t name them directly, although The Wall Street Journal notes that five of them line up neatly with what we know about the roles played by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, John Eastman and Sidney Powell, and former Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark in the aftermath of the 2020 e******n.

We’ve known for a while that such an indictment was possible — if not probable — so Tuesday’s development was hardly a surprise. But the potential repercussions from one of the charges that Trump faces is likely to be turning some heads in the coming days.

As Breitbart editor Joel B. Pollak noted in on social media, “it’s not just about ‘jailing’ Biden’s opponent” — at least not anymore.

One of the charges that Trump faces is 18 U.S. Code § 241, which states as follows:

“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or … [i[f two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.” [Emphasis ours.]

Do you think prosecutors would seek the death penalty against Trump?
Yes: 51% (86 V**es)
No: 49% (82 V**es)
As Pollak noted at Breitbart, “One person — Ashli Babbitt, a r****r shot by a law enforcement officer — died as a result of the Capitol r**t on J****** 6, which Smith said Tuesday was the result of Trump’s claims about the e******n. But Democrats have blamed Trump for the unrelated deaths of several protesters and C*****l P****e officers.”

“Democrats — and some of Trump’s Republican opponents — have also tried to blame him for apparent efforts by some of the r****rs to kidnap then-Vice President Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Smith could try to argue the same.”

Now, it is worth noting that, in the 45-page indictment, there’s nothing connecting Trump to any act of so-called “i**********n” on J*** 6, as the Journal noted in an editorial after the charges were made public: “Instead the indictment charges one obstruction and three conspiracy counts related to what it claims was a broad effort to overturn the 2020 e******n based on ‘dishonesty, fraud, and deceit,’” the paper noted.

Thus, it may be difficult to connect the former president with the death of Babbitt, given that most of the charges deal with behavior before J*** 6.

Still, the law states “if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section,” then a death sentence for the defendant is on the table. Babbit’s death no doubt resulted from the incursion.

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.

Regardless, the other charges also carry up to 20 years in prison, bringing a total if the terms were to run consecutively to 55 years. If Trump were convicted of everything Jack Smith has charged him with, and all of Trump’s terms were to run consecutively, he’d be in prison for over half a millennium.

Considering Trump is 77 years old, practically any of these charges — if Trump were to be found guilty and prosecutors were to push for the maximum — would likely lead to the former president spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

It’s also worth noting that this indictment wasn’t met with as much enthusiasm as the first round of charges from Smith outside of reliably liberal corners of the media. (The progressive website Salon, for instance, trumpeted the news with the headline: “Trump finally indicted for J*** 6 plot: Here’s why this is the big one.”)

According to Breitbart, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told Fox News that there was “less than meets the eye in this indictment.

“I thought the last indictment was a very serious threat for Donald Trump. When I take a red pen through material that is protected by the First Amendment, it reduces much of this to a haiku. Many of the things that the prosecutor is charging here [are] protected speech,” Turkey said.

“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”

Turley also likened the case to Smith’s prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who was convicted of corruption in 2014 in a case that was in an 8-0 decision by the Supreme Court in 2016. (The seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia was vacant at the time.)

“And this reminds me of sort of the [McDonnell] complaint, where he took the Virginia governor, got a conviction, and then it was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court,” Turley said. “It is a bridge too far.”

Yes, even in Washington, D.C., even with a judge who’s been one of the harshest when it comes to sentencing convicted participants in the Capitol incursion, according to The Associated Press, the charges and the amount of time they carry — even potentially a death penalty — may simply be too much of an ask.

The fact the prosecutor could potentially look to ask it in the first place, however, should be disturbing enough for most Americans.

https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-face-death-penalty-charge-brought-jack-smith/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
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What crap, on conviction trump will do a 5 to 10 year stint in one of the federal country club prisons and within a year he will f**e illness and infirmity to get sprung on house arrest.

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Aug 2, 2023 13:35:59   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
Kevyn wrote:
What crap, on conviction trump will do a 5 to 10 year stint in one of the federal country club prisons and within a year he will f**e illness and infirmity to get sprung on house arrest.


You "B" very wrong again Kevy....as usual.
If Trump goes to prison he will soon die of Arkancide

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Aug 2, 2023 13:38:11   #
woodguru
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

This might be a potential if it were a republican prosecution such as trump would head against his rivals...
Under Biden the left will be perfectly satisfied with normal sentencing guidelines

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Aug 2, 2023 13:43:15   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
woodguru wrote:
This might be a potential if it were a republican prosecution such as trump would head against his rivals...
Under Biden the left will be perfectly satisfied with normal sentencing guidelines


Woody yer no more intelligent than Kevy who I replied to previously

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Aug 2, 2023 13:48:41   #
woodguru
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.


“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”
br A prosecutor creative enough to try to crimina... (show quote)

This is what makes Magadonians so frigging stupid, utter rubbish rhetorical explanations that make sense yet are so far from the t***h that they have no resemblance to the reality...

There is a huge difference between freedom of speech in terms of knowingly representing lies, which is questionable in itself, and taking the right to question e******n integrity to a conspiracy involving many levels of people to refuse to allow the t***sition of power, up to and including using the military to maintain power

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Aug 2, 2023 14:02:42   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
woodguru wrote:
This is what makes Magadonians so frigging stupid, utter rubbish rhetorical explanations that make sense yet are so far from the t***h that they have no resemblance to the reality...

There is a huge difference between freedom of speech in terms of knowingly representing lies, which is questionable in itself, and taking the right to question e******n integrity to a conspiracy involving many levels of people to refuse to allow the t***sition of power, up to and including using the military to maintain power
This is what makes Magadonians so frigging stupid,... (show quote)



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Aug 2, 2023 15:07:06   #
BIRDMAN
 
woodguru wrote:
This is what makes Magadonians so frigging stupid, utter rubbish rhetorical explanations that make sense yet are so far from the t***h that they have no resemblance to the reality...

There is a huge difference between freedom of speech in terms of knowingly representing lies, which is questionable in itself, and taking the right to question e******n integrity to a conspiracy involving many levels of people to refuse to allow the t***sition of power, up to and including using the military to maintain power
This is what makes Magadonians so frigging stupid,... (show quote)


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Aug 2, 2023 15:10:18   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
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Aug 2, 2023 15:23:42   #
BIRDMAN
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
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Aug 2, 2023 15:40:41   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

The latest raft of charges the former president faces has to do with his actions in the days and weeks leading up to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol incursion. The grand jury looking into the events of that day charged him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of official proceedings and conspiracy against v**ers’ rights.

Six co-conspirators also had their actions described in the indictment. The indictment doesn’t name them directly, although The Wall Street Journal notes that five of them line up neatly with what we know about the roles played by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, John Eastman and Sidney Powell, and former Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark in the aftermath of the 2020 e******n.

We’ve known for a while that such an indictment was possible — if not probable — so Tuesday’s development was hardly a surprise. But the potential repercussions from one of the charges that Trump faces is likely to be turning some heads in the coming days.

As Breitbart editor Joel B. Pollak noted in on social media, “it’s not just about ‘jailing’ Biden’s opponent” — at least not anymore.

One of the charges that Trump faces is 18 U.S. Code § 241, which states as follows:

“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or … [i[f two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.” [Emphasis ours.]

Do you think prosecutors would seek the death penalty against Trump?
Yes: 51% (86 V**es)
No: 49% (82 V**es)
As Pollak noted at Breitbart, “One person — Ashli Babbitt, a r****r shot by a law enforcement officer — died as a result of the Capitol r**t on J****** 6, which Smith said Tuesday was the result of Trump’s claims about the e******n. But Democrats have blamed Trump for the unrelated deaths of several protesters and C*****l P****e officers.”

“Democrats — and some of Trump’s Republican opponents — have also tried to blame him for apparent efforts by some of the r****rs to kidnap then-Vice President Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Smith could try to argue the same.”

Now, it is worth noting that, in the 45-page indictment, there’s nothing connecting Trump to any act of so-called “i**********n” on J*** 6, as the Journal noted in an editorial after the charges were made public: “Instead the indictment charges one obstruction and three conspiracy counts related to what it claims was a broad effort to overturn the 2020 e******n based on ‘dishonesty, fraud, and deceit,’” the paper noted.

Thus, it may be difficult to connect the former president with the death of Babbitt, given that most of the charges deal with behavior before J*** 6.

Still, the law states “if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section,” then a death sentence for the defendant is on the table. Babbit’s death no doubt resulted from the incursion.

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.

Regardless, the other charges also carry up to 20 years in prison, bringing a total if the terms were to run consecutively to 55 years. If Trump were convicted of everything Jack Smith has charged him with, and all of Trump’s terms were to run consecutively, he’d be in prison for over half a millennium.

Considering Trump is 77 years old, practically any of these charges — if Trump were to be found guilty and prosecutors were to push for the maximum — would likely lead to the former president spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

It’s also worth noting that this indictment wasn’t met with as much enthusiasm as the first round of charges from Smith outside of reliably liberal corners of the media. (The progressive website Salon, for instance, trumpeted the news with the headline: “Trump finally indicted for J*** 6 plot: Here’s why this is the big one.”)

According to Breitbart, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told Fox News that there was “less than meets the eye in this indictment.

“I thought the last indictment was a very serious threat for Donald Trump. When I take a red pen through material that is protected by the First Amendment, it reduces much of this to a haiku. Many of the things that the prosecutor is charging here [are] protected speech,” Turkey said.

“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”

Turley also likened the case to Smith’s prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who was convicted of corruption in 2014 in a case that was in an 8-0 decision by the Supreme Court in 2016. (The seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia was vacant at the time.)

“And this reminds me of sort of the [McDonnell] complaint, where he took the Virginia governor, got a conviction, and then it was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court,” Turley said. “It is a bridge too far.”

Yes, even in Washington, D.C., even with a judge who’s been one of the harshest when it comes to sentencing convicted participants in the Capitol incursion, according to The Associated Press, the charges and the amount of time they carry — even potentially a death penalty — may simply be too much of an ask.

The fact the prosecutor could potentially look to ask it in the first place, however, should be disturbing enough for most Americans.

https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-face-death-penalty-charge-brought-jack-smith/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought... (show quote)


Biden cabal needs death penalty! The more crimes they commit the more charges against Trump

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Aug 2, 2023 15:59:14   #
dynomite65
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

The latest raft of charges the former president faces has to do with his actions in the days and weeks leading up to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol incursion. The grand jury looking into the events of that day charged him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of official proceedings and conspiracy against v**ers’ rights.

Six co-conspirators also had their actions described in the indictment. The indictment doesn’t name them directly, although The Wall Street Journal notes that five of them line up neatly with what we know about the roles played by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, John Eastman and Sidney Powell, and former Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark in the aftermath of the 2020 e******n.

We’ve known for a while that such an indictment was possible — if not probable — so Tuesday’s development was hardly a surprise. But the potential repercussions from one of the charges that Trump faces is likely to be turning some heads in the coming days.

As Breitbart editor Joel B. Pollak noted in on social media, “it’s not just about ‘jailing’ Biden’s opponent” — at least not anymore.

One of the charges that Trump faces is 18 U.S. Code § 241, which states as follows:

“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or … [i[f two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.” [Emphasis ours.]

Do you think prosecutors would seek the death penalty against Trump?
Yes: 51% (86 V**es)
No: 49% (82 V**es)
As Pollak noted at Breitbart, “One person — Ashli Babbitt, a r****r shot by a law enforcement officer — died as a result of the Capitol r**t on J****** 6, which Smith said Tuesday was the result of Trump’s claims about the e******n. But Democrats have blamed Trump for the unrelated deaths of several protesters and C*****l P****e officers.”

“Democrats — and some of Trump’s Republican opponents — have also tried to blame him for apparent efforts by some of the r****rs to kidnap then-Vice President Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Smith could try to argue the same.”

Now, it is worth noting that, in the 45-page indictment, there’s nothing connecting Trump to any act of so-called “i**********n” on J*** 6, as the Journal noted in an editorial after the charges were made public: “Instead the indictment charges one obstruction and three conspiracy counts related to what it claims was a broad effort to overturn the 2020 e******n based on ‘dishonesty, fraud, and deceit,’” the paper noted.

Thus, it may be difficult to connect the former president with the death of Babbitt, given that most of the charges deal with behavior before J*** 6.

Still, the law states “if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section,” then a death sentence for the defendant is on the table. Babbit’s death no doubt resulted from the incursion.

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.

Regardless, the other charges also carry up to 20 years in prison, bringing a total if the terms were to run consecutively to 55 years. If Trump were convicted of everything Jack Smith has charged him with, and all of Trump’s terms were to run consecutively, he’d be in prison for over half a millennium.

Considering Trump is 77 years old, practically any of these charges — if Trump were to be found guilty and prosecutors were to push for the maximum — would likely lead to the former president spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

It’s also worth noting that this indictment wasn’t met with as much enthusiasm as the first round of charges from Smith outside of reliably liberal corners of the media. (The progressive website Salon, for instance, trumpeted the news with the headline: “Trump finally indicted for J*** 6 plot: Here’s why this is the big one.”)

According to Breitbart, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told Fox News that there was “less than meets the eye in this indictment.

“I thought the last indictment was a very serious threat for Donald Trump. When I take a red pen through material that is protected by the First Amendment, it reduces much of this to a haiku. Many of the things that the prosecutor is charging here [are] protected speech,” Turkey said.

“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”

Turley also likened the case to Smith’s prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who was convicted of corruption in 2014 in a case that was in an 8-0 decision by the Supreme Court in 2016. (The seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia was vacant at the time.)

“And this reminds me of sort of the [McDonnell] complaint, where he took the Virginia governor, got a conviction, and then it was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court,” Turley said. “It is a bridge too far.”

Yes, even in Washington, D.C., even with a judge who’s been one of the harshest when it comes to sentencing convicted participants in the Capitol incursion, according to The Associated Press, the charges and the amount of time they carry — even potentially a death penalty — may simply be too much of an ask.

The fact the prosecutor could potentially look to ask it in the first place, however, should be disturbing enough for most Americans.

https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-face-death-penalty-charge-brought-jack-smith/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
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this is allpolitical procecution

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Aug 2, 2023 16:03:05   #
dynomite65
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Trump Could Face Death Penalty Over Charge Brought by Jack Smith

Could special counsel Jack Smith be looking to have Donald Trump put to death for his actions after the 2020 e******n? After his most recent indictment against the president was unsealed on Tuesday, that prospect isn’t as farfetched as it might sound.

The latest raft of charges the former president faces has to do with his actions in the days and weeks leading up to the J*** 6, 2021, Capitol incursion. The grand jury looking into the events of that day charged him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of official proceedings and conspiracy against v**ers’ rights.

Six co-conspirators also had their actions described in the indictment. The indictment doesn’t name them directly, although The Wall Street Journal notes that five of them line up neatly with what we know about the roles played by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, John Eastman and Sidney Powell, and former Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark in the aftermath of the 2020 e******n.

We’ve known for a while that such an indictment was possible — if not probable — so Tuesday’s development was hardly a surprise. But the potential repercussions from one of the charges that Trump faces is likely to be turning some heads in the coming days.

As Breitbart editor Joel B. Pollak noted in on social media, “it’s not just about ‘jailing’ Biden’s opponent” — at least not anymore.

One of the charges that Trump faces is 18 U.S. Code § 241, which states as follows:

“If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or … [i[f two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to k**l, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.” [Emphasis ours.]

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As Pollak noted at Breitbart, “One person — Ashli Babbitt, a r****r shot by a law enforcement officer — died as a result of the Capitol r**t on J****** 6, which Smith said Tuesday was the result of Trump’s claims about the e******n. But Democrats have blamed Trump for the unrelated deaths of several protesters and C*****l P****e officers.”

“Democrats — and some of Trump’s Republican opponents — have also tried to blame him for apparent efforts by some of the r****rs to kidnap then-Vice President Mike Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Smith could try to argue the same.”

Now, it is worth noting that, in the 45-page indictment, there’s nothing connecting Trump to any act of so-called “i**********n” on J*** 6, as the Journal noted in an editorial after the charges were made public: “Instead the indictment charges one obstruction and three conspiracy counts related to what it claims was a broad effort to overturn the 2020 e******n based on ‘dishonesty, fraud, and deceit,’” the paper noted.

Thus, it may be difficult to connect the former president with the death of Babbitt, given that most of the charges deal with behavior before J*** 6.

Still, the law states “if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section,” then a death sentence for the defendant is on the table. Babbit’s death no doubt resulted from the incursion.

A prosecutor creative enough to try to criminalize the kind of political speech that’s been protected by the United States Constitution since the country’s founding could certainly be creative enough to push the wording of the law to its limits.

Regardless, the other charges also carry up to 20 years in prison, bringing a total if the terms were to run consecutively to 55 years. If Trump were convicted of everything Jack Smith has charged him with, and all of Trump’s terms were to run consecutively, he’d be in prison for over half a millennium.

Considering Trump is 77 years old, practically any of these charges — if Trump were to be found guilty and prosecutors were to push for the maximum — would likely lead to the former president spending the rest of his natural life behind bars.

It’s also worth noting that this indictment wasn’t met with as much enthusiasm as the first round of charges from Smith outside of reliably liberal corners of the media. (The progressive website Salon, for instance, trumpeted the news with the headline: “Trump finally indicted for J*** 6 plot: Here’s why this is the big one.”)

According to Breitbart, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley told Fox News that there was “less than meets the eye in this indictment.

“I thought the last indictment was a very serious threat for Donald Trump. When I take a red pen through material that is protected by the First Amendment, it reduces much of this to a haiku. Many of the things that the prosecutor is charging here [are] protected speech,” Turkey said.

“The most jarring thing about this indictment is that it basically just accuses him of disinformation,” he added.

“This is a disinformation indictment. It says that you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the e******n. That’s all part of the First Amendment.”

Turley also likened the case to Smith’s prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who was convicted of corruption in 2014 in a case that was in an 8-0 decision by the Supreme Court in 2016. (The seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia was vacant at the time.)

“And this reminds me of sort of the [McDonnell] complaint, where he took the Virginia governor, got a conviction, and then it was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court,” Turley said. “It is a bridge too far.”

Yes, even in Washington, D.C., even with a judge who’s been one of the harshest when it comes to sentencing convicted participants in the Capitol incursion, according to The Associated Press, the charges and the amount of time they carry — even potentially a death penalty — may simply be too much of an ask.

The fact the prosecutor could potentially look to ask it in the first place, however, should be disturbing enough for most Americans.

https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-face-death-penalty-charge-brought-jack-smith/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
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this is all about political procecution

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Aug 2, 2023 17:05:38   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
What crap, on conviction trump will do a 5 to 10 year stint in one of the federal country club prisons and within a year he will f**e illness and infirmity to get sprung on house arrest.



Essentially, they have indicted him for exercising his constitutional rights. "You have your rights but if you exercise them, we'll prosecute you.

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Aug 2, 2023 17:12:51   #
dynomite65
 
all trump is doing is exersing his rights that the america way

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