woodguru

A quarter of republicans despise trump, which in right wing terms means they h**e him, h**e being an emotion that is the flip side of love. A third love him, that 30% that is there for him no matter what he did or does.

Trump did not win the e******n in 2016 with a quarter of republicans despising him, and there flat is no way he can win without a full support by republicans, there are simply no additional dem crossover or third party v**es out there that will make up the difference....yet here we are, with the die hard trump supporters who believe that MAGA rally crowds has something to do with the support of the nation...a full 60% of the nation is against trump, numbers don't lie.

https://www.rawstory.com/jonah-goldberg-trump/?utm_source=push_notifications

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Along with the 25% that you claim, I "h**e" Trump too but I v**ed for him... and I'll v**e for him again if he's on the b****t... something you imbeciles on the left fail to understand.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Awaken, woody, exit the darkness and come to the Light.
The source of love and h**e is spiritual,
thought and feeling is the channel though which they are expressed.

To wit: you consistently, without fail, express your hatred of Trump and all of his supporters.

MidnightRider

Where are you getting your facts from woodglue? I v**ed for him every time and will again. Remember the silent majority? We were 3 million. You guys disenfranchised us, our numbers went to 4 million+. You were saying about numbers?

kemmer

Hahaha…. I just bet you will. 🤪

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

You start out stating a f**e "fact." H**e is not the flip side of love. They are right next to each other. Think with your brain. By the way, I both love and h**e Trump. Ultimately you should repeatedly v**e for whomever becomes the Republican nominee.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

You can replace Trump with Biden and write the exact same narrative. Which is why polls make it a crap shoot. Biden is not loved by a lot of the left. Assuming a f**r e******n, a big assumption since the process is now stacked to benefit the left, the only question is which will show up more in the next e******n, Republicans or Democrats? Republicans will v**e for Trumps policies regardless of his drawbacks. Will the left, especially B****s and suburban parents, do the same for Biden?

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

Numbers don't....... but you sure the hell do.

Haski123

E******ns I feel are more about platforms than people running under those platforms: what if Neither Trump or Biden are nominees in 2024? Who is strong Republican that can replace Trump or Democrat for Biden if their age , medical condition or legal woes make them non reelect-able.
Trump lost to Biden in 2020 ,Trumps base has not expanded since 2020 in fact appears to being reducing -what miracle will allow Trump to win in 2024?
What is republicans /democrats platform now and for 2024?
Biden is currently following Democratic Platform from 2020 e******n.
2024 looks similar to 2020 -v**e for the best of the undesirables.
Platform Factors-my thoughts::
Women’s rights
Inflation
Overall economy( stock market/ jobs/wages, etc)
Income skew
Immigration control
World affairs/wars/p******cs
Divided h**eful citizens
How to address c*****e c****e
Trust in each other/news/govt. etc)
Minority Biases
These are key items I feel platforms should address.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

You used the words "I feel" at least twice. And yet you've said in the past that you support facts.

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Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

You are correct, sort of. E******ns should be about platforms but unfortunately with the number of uninformed v**ers they rarely are. They are more about emotions, bank accounts and public image.

If Biden and Trump both drop out it will be "lean Republican". So little has gone right for Democrats in the last 3 years and they are bleeding support. Especially among parents, black men and young males. What they have to run on is c*****e c****e, Roe, and anti-Trump. If Trump is gone they lose a big chunk of their platform.

There is a wide field on the right that could replace Trump and they are already in play. The field on the left is down to Harris, Neusom, a relative unknown or a far left progressive. None of them will be a good candidates with their records and positions. Their best bet for a Democrat win currently would be RFK Jr but they are currently running from him and will destroy any chance to rebrand him as a loyal moderate Democrat.

Democrats have very little success to run on except the fear of c*****e c****e. Every other issue you mention they currently are failing on. Even the woman's rights issue (Roe), which has always been a strong issue for Democrats, has been weakened by the parents rights issue and the sexualizing of children.

Republicans need to establish and sell their brand without emphasizing the religious slant. Run to a Constitutional and Bill Of Rights based middle and away from the social engineering or big government solutions.

Biden vrs Trump. As I said, a crap shoot for many reasons, such as legal woes for both, public image, the fears of c*****e c****e and economic direction, which make it less predictable. Neither may still be standing by 2025.

Of course all of this is just my current analysis and is subject to change.

Haski123

Based on the facts one forms one’s opinion or feelings and states those. The facts don’t change. Alternate facts don’t exist, but alternate interpretations( opinions/ feeling) can. I feel it’s right to differentiate facts and feelings and clearly identify which is which. Today it’s hard to get consensus on facts, as conspiracy theories or “ alternate facts” lies get thrown in the discussion to belay facts to erroneously support one’s beliefs/ theories / feelings that are contrary to the facts. Let me give you one to try: For decades historians have looked at all presidents of the USA and ranked them based on their accomplishments in office, handling of major issues other imperial data then the scholars rank the Presidents after they leave office. 45 Presidents to date, using same process have Trump ranked 40th( Bottom five). That’s a fact. What your opinion or feelings are is not a fact. Even if they are 50% off, it’s a well below average rating.

Haski123

Good exchange of thoughts, some of the trends you mention may be changing direction but most are spot on. Thanks for sharing. Key point is this stuff is like a flowing river never the same at one spot for long-ever changing.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Feelings do. And in today's world, so do "facts".

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

A lot of people on OPP despise you woodguru but if you ran for something most progressives would v**e for you.