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Conservative Republican Admits He Started the IRS Scrutiny of Tea Party Groups
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Jun 12, 2013 19:35:13   #
lynn2929
 
It amazes me how you republicans don't even believe each other. You are stupid plain and simple. As bad as you say the democrats are and I agree they have their faults republicans are just plain i***ts. 'm glade I don't claim either party and sure don't claim the Tea Party

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Jun 12, 2013 19:54:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
lynn2929 wrote:
It amazes me how you republicans don't even believe each other. You are stupid plain and simple. As bad as you say the democrats are and I agree they have their faults republicans are just plain i***ts. 'm glade I don't claim either party and sure don't claim the Tea Party


Which party, if any, do you claim?

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Jun 12, 2013 20:25:05   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
lynn2929 wrote:
I know what consertive republican means,
1- Don't believe anything that don't fit into his/her agenda
2- H**es the working man
3- H**es America
4- Thinks that republicans has never done anything wrong in the history of the party
5- Two faced and talk out of both ends of his body at the same time.
There is more but that's enough for now

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Lynn, it isn't totally imperative that you come here to speak the silliest, most childish lies. So far you are batting 0 for 5. Not a t***hful or correct thing in 5 rants. You would seem at least competent to get at least ONE thing correct. I KNOW you haven't witnessed any conservative doing any of the above, so where did you come by that "info" that is called "libel" in the real world. Where've you been all this time?

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Jun 12, 2013 20:37:56   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Tasine wrote:
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Lynn, it isn't totally imperative that you come here to speak the silliest, most childish lies. So far you are batting 0 for 5. Not a t***hful or correct thing in 5 rants. You would seem at least competent to get at least ONE thing correct. I KNOW you haven't witnessed any conservative doing any of the above, so where did you come by that "info" that is called "libel" in the real world. Where've you been all this time?


As a matter of fact, lynn2929 may be correct. Since I have never had the opportunity to engage a "consertive republican" in any sort of enlightening discourse, I have no idea what a "consertive republican" believes. To my shame, until now I didn't even know there was such a thing. I really should get out more. In response to lynn2929's claim that Republicans are stupid, this one is smart enough to have detected nine grammatical errors in the four sentences lynn2929 used to make this unsustainable claim. These egregious insults are usually promulgated by people who appear to be incapable of basic communication sk**ls, such as spelling and punctuation. I wonder if they realize how ridiculous it is to reveal their own deficiency of education, while attempting to berate someone else's supposed shortfall of intelligence.

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Jun 12, 2013 20:46:14   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
banjojack wrote:
As a matter of fact, lynn2929 may be correct. Since I have never had the opportunity to engage a "consertive republican" in any sort of enlightening discourse, I have no idea what a "consertive republican" believes. To my shame, until now I didn't even know there was such a thing. I really should get out more.


Consider the source, all conservatives are Republican.

No wait. Reverse that, or... Considering the source it doesn't matter which way you say it.

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Jun 12, 2013 20:54:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Consider the source, all conservatives are Republican.

No wait. Reverse that, or... Considering the source it doesn't matter which way you say it.


The reference was to the "consertive republicans" alluded to in the post. Perhaps you are familiar with this particular political outlook. I am not, nor is the "consertive"belief system one that I am acquainted with.

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Jun 12, 2013 21:31:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Consider the source, all conservatives are Republican.

No wait. Reverse that, or... Considering the source it doesn't matter which way you say it.


Reverse that and you have an unt***h since John McCain says he is a Republican but he sure as hell isn't a conservative. The same thing works very well with Lindsay Graham.

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Jun 12, 2013 21:35:53   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Tasine wrote:
"A U.S. Internal Revenue Service manager, who described himself as a conservative Republican, told congressional investigators that he and a local colleague decided to give conservative groups the extra scrutiny that has prompted weeks of political controversy."

I seriously doubt that any conservative Republican told investigators this. I seriously doubt any conservative Republicans even work at the IRS. The man may be a Republican or he may be a ringer thrown in for protection, a democrat allowing himself to be thrown under the bus, but frankly, I don't believe MOST people know what "conservative republican" means. The left has been quite adept at marginalizing the English language, turning words on end to force the meanings to be questionable. It's a liberal tactic and they do it pretty well. The left does most corrupt and criminal things pretty well - the only thing that gets them caught is their abject stupidity.

Cummings could watch from a front row seat as Obama chopped off 5 children's heads, and he'd deny Obama did anything wrong. Democrats' words are as good as the average felon's word. When corruption is generously mixed with abject stupidity, t***h seldom is uttered. And the Democrat Party couldn't compete with a gaggle of 4th graders of yesteryear, back before the left screwed up the education industry. Pretty soon they'll have us back into the 12 Century.
"A U.S. Internal Revenue Service manager, who... (show quote)


I have to agree with most of what you say here, however, I wonder how the Democrats allowed that stuff to continue if it wasn't theirs. Surely as honest as they are they wouldn't have allowed the IRS to do what they were doing other than they knew it worked against their enemies. Obama does have an Enemies list doesn't he? He is a Democrat leader, too, isn't he?

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Jun 12, 2013 21:39:05   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rumitoid wrote:
The man in charge of the IRS when this "extra-scrutiny" occurred was a conservative Republican Bush appointee. This is not saying he ordered the extra scrutiny, just pointing out they exist in the IRS. Remember Nixon? Part of the charges against him was for using the IRS against those on a real, honest to God Enemies List.


I see you admitting that Obama did know how Nixon worked and was willing to see it turned around. I wonder why he was so seriously wanting to use any method to get at the Tea Party and all the groups that admitted to being against a******n. I guess he is at least as dishonest as Nixon was.

You progs really make me wonder when all you can argue is that you people did it so it must be alright for us to do it.

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Jun 12, 2013 21:52:06   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
lynn2929 wrote:
I know what consertive republican means,
1- Don't believe anything that don't fit into his/her agenda
2- H**es the working man
3- H**es America
4- Thinks that republicans has never done anything wrong in the history of the party
5- Two faced and talk out of both ends of his body at the same time.
There is more but that's enough for now


Banjojack,

I am in the corner with the pointy hat. Baaa!

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Jun 12, 2013 22:13:18   #
rumitoid
 
Any liberal media makes a very clear distinction between the "old guard" Reublicans and the Tea Party; they are not lumped together. By present Tea Party standards, there would be no room for an "old guard" like Raegan. If he were somehow a senator now, he would be listed by you with McCain.

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Jun 12, 2013 23:04:55   #
rumitoid
 
I am pretty certain I am considered a liberal on this site by some but I prefer independent. What does that mean? Primarily, honor the Constitution that is fundamentally "we the people"; nothing liberal or conservative to it. Centered in the unalienable rights granted by God (or any decent humanistic approach to our existence).

This stance does not make things uncomplicated. Rights of the unborn vs. (unfortunately) the rights of women. Rights are rights. Favoring the unborn over a women or vice versa is constitutional, not liberal or conservative. There is no easy or even right answer to this dilemma, although those that have come down on either side of this issue want to make the other side either stupid or evil.

America is dying from a steady dose of daily d******eness. The ugliness on both sides is k*****g democracy. Patriotism is not allegiance to a party but to we the people. We the people are doing our Constitution and each other a possibly fatal disservice with posts like lynn2929's and banjojacks agreement.

Let us stop allowing Congress to act by the favors they reap from their sponsors but act from the people they are supposed to represent. Congress is presenty out of the reach of US citizens. They have no need to listen to us. Why? Win or lose their re-e******n, they have a lucrative position as a lobbyist for their string-holder, who is most likey screwing the public in one form or another.

But we got these legislators just where they want us: at each others' throats. Putting we the people at war with each other gives them free reign--and I mean reign.

The Democrats went way left in the 60s to early 70s and that is when the shift in power came from the middle class to the wealthy elite. As a neocon, you may balk at that term "wealthy elite" as a marxist or socialist term: today it is a stark reality. Today, the Republicans are going way right to greater secure the "wealthy elite's" position. Going to extremes keeps the populace pre-occupied with entrenched disagreement demonizing each other and making compromise, progress or change impossible.

We have the greatest income disparity on the planet, greater than places like India. Since the mid-70s, corporate profits have soared while those of the middle class barely exceeded stagnancy and the poor plummeted. The minimum wage, given all the economic factors, should be at $23 for a fast food worker. Policies by our representatives heavily favoring Big Business, most dramatically played out by the Bush policies, have made almost all Americans indentured servants.



We need to come together as we the people again and stop the incivility and insults.

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Jun 13, 2013 00:21:35   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
rumitoid wrote:

We need to come together as we the people again and stop the incivility and insults.


You said, "again." I ask, "When did we the people come together, before?"

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Jun 13, 2013 02:51:25   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am pretty certain I am considered a liberal on this site by some but I prefer independent. What does that mean? Primarily, honor the Constitution that is fundamentally "we the people"; nothing liberal or conservative to it. Centered in the unalienable rights granted by God (or any decent humanistic approach to our existence).

This stance does not make things uncomplicated. Rights of the unborn vs. (unfortunately) the rights of women. Rights are rights. Favoring the unborn over a women or vice versa is constitutional, not liberal or conservative. There is no easy or even right answer to this dilemma, although those that have come down on either side of this issue want to make the other side either stupid or evil.

America is dying from a steady dose of daily d******eness. The ugliness on both sides is k*****g democracy. Patriotism is not allegiance to a party but to we the people. We the people are doing our Constitution and each other a possibly fatal disservice with posts like lynn2929's and banjojacks agreement.

Let us stop allowing Congress to act by the favors they reap from their sponsors but act from the people they are supposed to represent. Congress is presenty out of the reach of US citizens. They have no need to listen to us. Why? Win or lose their re-e******n, they have a lucrative position as a lobbyist for their string-holder, who is most likey screwing the public in one form or another.

But we got these legislators just where they want us: at each others' throats. Putting we the people at war with each other gives them free reign--and I mean reign.

The Democrats went way left in the 60s to early 70s and that is when the shift in power came from the middle class to the wealthy elite. As a neocon, you may balk at that term "wealthy elite" as a marxist or socialist term: today it is a stark reality. Today, the Republicans are going way right to greater secure the "wealthy elite's" position. Going to extremes keeps the populace pre-occupied with entrenched disagreement demonizing each other and making compromise, progress or change impossible.

We have the greatest income disparity on the planet, greater than places like India. Since the mid-70s, corporate profits have soared while those of the middle class barely exceeded stagnancy and the poor plummeted. The minimum wage, given all the economic factors, should be at $23 for a fast food worker. Policies by our representatives heavily favoring Big Business, most dramatically played out by the Bush policies, have made almost all Americans indentured servants.



We need to come together as we the people again and stop the incivility and insults.
I am pretty certain I am considered a liberal on t... (show quote)


I can certainly see the benefits of $23 as minimum wage for fast food workers. McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Sonic, TacoBell, and others of their ilk would all close their doors. Families would perhaps start cooking at home and having meals and conversation together. 30% of the i******s would have to return to their country of origin as they would be unemployed.

Of course, unemployment would climb as store managers, middle management and high school kids who were working would be out of work. We will not even consider the ramifications on the stock market. Charitable contributions would go down, but hey no big deal.

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Jun 13, 2013 03:07:48   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
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