Geo, writing a response to any comment on an open forum is not "jumping in," - it is participating in a debate.
Wolf Counselor requiring my defense or assistance?
What a novel idea!!
"Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand." (Romans 14:4)
Wolf Counselor is competent to defend himself.
My response was an exercise of Christian Apologetics.
In understanding our role as Christians today, in Christ, we are all prophets as well as priests and kings.
We are called to defend the revealed word of God. (Jude 1:3).
The Old Testament prophets were men of varying ages who were directly called by God. The calls of a number of them are recorded explicitly for us.
Moses was called while tending his father in law’s sheep at Horeb (Exodus 3 & 4).
Samuel was called as a boy in the temple (1 Samuel 3).
Isaiah’s call is recorded at length in Isaiah 6.
Jeremiah was set apart from birth and called to prophesy at about age 20 (Jeremiah 1:5ff).
Ezekiel was called while he was in exile in Babylon (Ezekiel 1 & 2).
In some cases, God’s call comes in the context of a vision or a dream (Numbers 12:6). Isaiah and Ezekiel are both given overwhelming visions of God in His splendor.
Sometimes God’s call comes “out of the blue.” Amos was a sheep breeder when “the LORD took me from tending the flock and said to me ‘Go, prophesy to my people Israel.’”
What is clear in each case is that these men of both the Old Testament and New Testament, were appointed by the LORD – they do not autonomously take this role upon themselves.
Sometimes we think that God loses His temper with His people because of their disobedience, and that the prophesied punishments are a ‘tit for tat’ reaction on His part. In fact, when the prophets speak about God’s impending judgement of His people, they are testifying that God is faithful to His promises. So, when the prophets condemn the behavior of God’s people and warn about His coming judgement, they always do so in terms of the covenant curses. They prophecy famine, infertility, disease, drought, oppression by their enemies and finally, exile, if the people continue in their unfaithfulness (c.f. Deuteronomy 28:15-68).
These punishments are not God ‘lashing out’ at a people who have ‘ticked him off’ but a reminder that, even when God’s people are unfaithful, He will remain faithful – “if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself” (2 Timothy 2:13).
The prophets’ words were intended to cause the people to consider their ways and return to God (e.g. Amos 4’s refrain “I gave you ... but you have not returned to me”). Thus God’s promised punishment was an instrument of His grace and the prophets’ warnings are a call to be faithful as God is faithful. If the people refuse to heed the prophets (and mostly they do), the prophets’ words still testify to God’s faithfulness and justice – even in punishing His own people.
FYI, the definition of derogatory [filthy] language and that of hatred [h**e speech] are each mutually exclusive.
As for the remainder of your diatribe, to receive the response that is its proper due, rewrite it in a cohesive manner.
Geo wrote:
So Zemirah, you jump in to defend Wolf Councilers h**e and name calling. You call it love and not h**e. And if I call it h**e ( language like filthy q***r) then I’m in full r*******n against God?
You said We all know what god had written down. If you think god wrote anything down then I feel sorry for you. You did say the Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit, so maybe you were just rambling quotes about god writing the Bible and actually do understand. Wolf councillor quoted Leviticus and the Old Testament when I said said it was written by superstitious old Jewish men.
You chose to ridicule me by diverting my statement and suggesting that I meant the disciples of the New Testament so you could show your knowledge and infer that I was wrong. Deceitful but, I wouldn’t expect more from a “Holier than thou” who professes to know God because he read thousands of years old text from a time of bigotry, superstition, intolerance and ignorance that someone told you it was written by God. And you respond: Really? Wow!
Or inspired by God, the same way Gone with the Wind was inspired by the Civil War.
You defend hatred and call it common sense.
If you know god, then you should know something about him that was never written down in the scriptures, or do you just know what you’ve been told by someone as unscrupulous as yourself?
So Zemirah, you jump in to defend Wolf Councilers ... (
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