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Jun 2, 2023 16:26:42   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Do you support other groups that wish to reclaim their ancestral homelands???

Should the US be returned to the natives and a new government under their control be established???
How in the world would that even be possible?
With 1200 plus tribes inhabiting this continent, many of whom were constantly at war with each other, all of whom spoke their own language (with some closely related), who had their own traditions and religions, and had no central governing authority, there was no nation of native Americans.

Some native tribes were far more brutal in their treatment of captured members of other tribes than they were in their treatment of captured w****s. The Comanches were the worst on that score.

Tribes in the east didn't even know there were tribes in the west, and vice versa.
It was Tribalism on a grand scale, similar to the Tribalism in the land of Canaan before God's chosen people occupied the land He had selected for them. Tribalism similar to Afghanistan today.



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Jun 2, 2023 19:20:45   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
How in the world would that even be possible?
With 1200 plus tribes inhabiting this continent, many of whom were constantly at war with each other, all of whom spoke their own language (with some closely related), who had their own traditions and religions, and had no central governing authority, there was no nation of native Americans.

Some native tribes were far more brutal in their treatment of captured members of other tribes than they were in their treatment of captured w****s. The Comanches were the worst on that score.

Tribes in the east didn't even know there were tribes in the west, and vice versa.
It was Tribalism on a grand scale, similar to the Tribalism in the land of Canaan before God's chosen people occupied the land He had selected for them. Tribalism similar to Afghanistan today.
How in the world would that even be possible? br ... (show quote)


Each tribe has a claim to its ancestral land...
It's not that difficult to understand...

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Jun 2, 2023 19:23:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
There are Messiahanic Jews. There are no Messiahanic Muslims and the United Nations gave Jews the land of Israel.


Hmmm....
Trying to remember when the UN did thatπŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”
Do you mean that the UK gave the land to the Jews While it was divvying up the Ottoman Empire???
The Palestinians and surrounding Muslim nations certainly weren't consulted..

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Jun 2, 2023 20:35:26   #
Liberty Tree
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hmmm....
Trying to remember when the UN did thatπŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”
Do you mean that the UK gave the land to the Jews While it was divvying up the Ottoman Empire???
The Palestinians and surrounding Muslim nations certainly weren't consulted..


UN action 1947-48. Why are you anti- Jew and pro Muslim

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Jun 2, 2023 20:37:11   #
Liberty Tree
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Each tribe has a claim to its ancestral land...
It's not that difficult to understand...


Tribes lived in the same area with no really defined boundaries.

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Jun 2, 2023 20:48:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Each tribe has a claim to its ancestral land...
It's not that difficult to understand...
And their ancestors immigrated from some other "ancestral land",
often with the aggressive use of force.

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Jun 3, 2023 12:00:27   #
martsiva
 
keepuphope wrote:
God Himself states over and over in His word that the jews/ Israel are His chosen people His covenant as stated by Him is forever it did not discontinue. Thru Christ Jesus we gentiles were added to His family to save us and provoke israel to jelousy His words. If you think God has abandoned Israel for Christians you are in err to what the bible teaches.


No I`m not in err - God`s true Israel is a spiritual people - not a place! What does Galatians 3:28 say??

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Jun 3, 2023 12:10:12   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
martsiva wrote:
No I`m not in err - God`s true Israel is a spiritual people - not a place! What does Galatians 3:28 say??


One question...do you think God has abandoned Israel and chose who in the new testament make up Jesus's bride? Or do you believe God is still in a Covent with Israel as He states in the bible that lasts forever? I agree that those who have God's Holy Spirit indewelled in them are a spiritual house of God, but in no way has he forsaken His promise that He proclaimed to be forever concerning them.We were grafted in as stated in His word with Israel to be God's people.

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Jun 5, 2023 19:32:23   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
UN action 1947-48. Why are you anti- Jew and pro Muslim


Such ignorance...

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Jun 5, 2023 19:32:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Tribes lived in the same area with no really defined boundaries.


Trying to find the pointπŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”

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Jun 5, 2023 19:33:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
And their ancestors immigrated from some other "ancestral land",
often with the aggressive use of force.


Yes... You've described the entirety of human history...

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Jun 6, 2023 12:53:40   #
martsiva
 
keepuphope wrote:
One question...do you think God has abandoned Israel and chose who in the new testament make up Jesus's bride? Or do you believe God is still in a Covent with Israel as He states in the bible that lasts forever? I agree that those who have God's Holy Spirit indewelled in them are a spiritual house of God, but in no way has he forsaken His promise that He proclaimed to be forever concerning them.We were grafted in as stated in His word with Israel to be God's people.


God`s true Israel is not a place but a spiritual people who believe in Jesus Christ so, no He has not abandoned those whom He considers to be true His Israel! Gal 3:28 and 3:29 are very clear about who God considers to be His true Israel! God`s new covenant is with them that lasts forever which is a spiritual Israel!

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