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May 12, 2023 15:54:59   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

©2022 Tribune Content Agency, LLC.

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May 12, 2023 16:00:30   #
Liberty Tree
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

©2022 Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
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Where is today's godless nationalism getting us?

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May 12, 2023 16:03:41   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

©2022 Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
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“Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's” (Matthew 22:21 NASB).

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May 12, 2023 16:10:14   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
slatten49 wrote:
... Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it...

So, tell me slatten, what is THE command of the One I claim to follow?

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May 12, 2023 17:25:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

©2022 Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thoma... (show quote)
Is this the best you could come up with, slat?

If you are stricken with pagan beliefs and you abhor Christianity, why don't you write your own opinion rather than resort to that of a political commentator who apparently can't distinguish the difference between postmodern Christians and Disciples of Jesus.

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May 12, 2023 19:38:18   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

©2022 Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
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Damn Lon. Why post this?
It's just more propaganda from the left. Can't you see that? I mean, if we have to talk about Nationalism movements today, shouldn't we be talking about "Q***r, T***s, Pedo" Nationalism? That, to me, seems to be the movement of the day. And, it's bad in every way, shape, and form in my opinion.

Think about it this way.
If me, and my family silently bow our heads in prayer at a restaurant, and it offends our q***r waiter, we are bigots.
But, if that same q***r waiter dresses in d**g, and wags his junk in front of our grandkids during story hour, he is a savior.

Explain this to me. In your own words.
I won't read another opinion, or article from you. Your words.

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May 12, 2023 22:09:13   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
Damn Lon. Why post this?
It's just more propaganda from the left. Can't you see that? I mean, if we have to talk about Nationalism movements today, shouldn't we be talking about "Q***r, T***s, Pedo" Nationalism? That, to me, seems to be the movement of the day. And, it's bad in every way, shape, and form in my opinion.

Think about it this way.
If me, and my family silently bow our heads in prayer at a restaurant, and it offends our q***r waiter, we are bigots.
But, if that same q***r waiter dresses in d**g, and wags his junk in front of our grandkids during story hour, he is a savior.

Explain this to me. In your own words.
I won't read another opinion, or article from you. Your words.
Damn Lon. Why post this? br It's just more propag... (show quote)

"Propaganda from the left", Arch

You should read more on or by Cal Thomas.

“My late brother Rush and I have been frequent readers and fans of Cal's column for many years. He speaks the t***h in an age that seems to have forgotten what t***h looks like, but he also has friends who are Democrats and liberals, a rarity these days.” - David Limbaugh

“For more than 40 years, Cal Thomas had a front row seat to some of America's most contentious public policy debates. And for more than four decades, Cal wielded his pen to speak t***h to power and to advance traditional conservative values. Cal's stories and tales from that front row-as the watchman-are sure to entertain!” - Mike Pence

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May 12, 2023 22:14:57   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Parky60 wrote:
So, tell me slatten, what is THE command of the One I claim to follow?

Parky, for answers to questions, I will tell you go to the email address below Cal Thomas' article.

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May 13, 2023 08:40:45   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
slatten49 wrote:
Parky, for answers to questions, I will tell you go to the email address below Cal Thomas' article.

I asked YOU the question, not Cal Thomas.

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May 13, 2023 10:21:58   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is this the best you could come up with, slat?

If you are stricken with pagan beliefs and you abhor Christianity, why don't you write your own opinion rather than resort to that of a political commentator who apparently can't distinguish the difference between postmodern Christians and Disciples of Jesus.

He is a h**er and hides behind l*****t views! I don’t read his posts! Only if it’s in non political where he might show some humanity

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May 13, 2023 10:22:59   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Propaganda from the left", Arch

You should read more on or by Cal Thomas.

“My late brother Rush and I have been frequent readers and fans of Cal's column for many years. He speaks the t***h in an age that seems to have forgotten what t***h looks like, but he also has friends who are Democrats and liberals, a rarity these days.” - David Limbaugh

“For more than 40 years, Cal Thomas had a front row seat to some of America's most contentious public policy debates. And for more than four decades, Cal wielded his pen to speak t***h to power and to advance traditional conservative values. Cal's stories and tales from that front row-as the watchman-are sure to entertain!” - Mike Pence
"Propaganda from the left", Arch img sr... (show quote)

Read real t***h! Not a l*****t viewpoint

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May 13, 2023 14:00:38   #
martsiva
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Propaganda from the left", Arch

You should read more on or by Cal Thomas.

“My late brother Rush and I have been frequent readers and fans of Cal's column for many years. He speaks the t***h in an age that seems to have forgotten what t***h looks like, but he also has friends who are Democrats and liberals, a rarity these days.” - David Limbaugh

“For more than 40 years, Cal Thomas had a front row seat to some of America's most contentious public policy debates. And for more than four decades, Cal wielded his pen to speak t***h to power and to advance traditional conservative values. Cal's stories and tales from that front row-as the watchman-are sure to entertain!” - Mike Pence
"Propaganda from the left", Arch img sr... (show quote)


I DID read more on Cal Thomas and he is as l*****t as they come!!

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May 13, 2023 17:07:15   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
martsiva wrote:
I DID read more on Cal Thomas and he is as l*****t as they come!!

I challenge you to post an article or link you read on Cal Thomas that depicts him as a 'l*****t'. Good luck.

Meanwhile, here's a few to ponder...

https://calthomas.com/ - (Excerpt: "Today, Thomas is one of America’s best-known and most popular syndicated columnists, despite being a conservative".)

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/05/09/what-cal-thomas-witness-watchman-50-years-reporting-america/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Thomas

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May 14, 2023 05:00:24   #
pescado rojo
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
He is a h**er and hides behind l*****t views! I don’t read his posts! Only if it’s in non political where he might show some humanity


I've got to comment on this one. The only h**e I see is coming from those who take exception to this post. If this country is to be saved, it will not be from turning it into a theocracy in which only hard core Evangelicals are allowed a voice. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world, yet some of you would try and install your version of it. Christianity, like all organized religions, has it's factions. (Denominations, if you will.) How will you install the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth when you cannot agree on what that kingdom is? There is a reason for all the denominations, and that reason is disagreement on some sort of doctrinal issue. Which kingdom version will you install? The Baptist, or Methodist version? How about the Catholic version?
"Christian Nationalism" is not a monolithic thing, despite how some people try and categorize it, nor is it, as some of the posters here believe, a "my way or the highway" type of thing.
Quite frankly, if a First Century Christian observed a modern day church service, he would probably think it some sort of pagan ritual.
I am no fan of Cal Thomas, but he is correct in pointing out that "Christian Nationalism" is a pretty diverse and fragmented belief system.
I do not understand why you are castigating Slatten49 for posting an article that points this out. Kind of like shooting the messenger.
So tell us, why can you not agree on whether the Sabbath is on Saturday or Sunday? The one Christ kept was the Jewish Sabbath which ran from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.
Which Christmas Day do you keep? The one in January or the one on December the 25th, which just happens to be the alleged birthday of the pagan god Mithra?
Why do you celebrate Christmas, which is a made up holiday not even observed until about 300 years after the crucifixion, and why do you celebrate it on the supposed birthday of a pagan godlet who was at the time serious competition for the early Christians?
Wanna show me where, in the Bible, Christians are commanded to observe Christmas? I can show you where it came from, and it ain't in the Old or New Testament.
Ditto for Easter.
You can't even agree on whether dunking is the only Biblical Baptism, or just a good sprinkle will do.
In your commendable desire to install an honest, Christian based government, the first step would seem to be agreeing on what it is. Specifics, not slogans and generalities.

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May 14, 2023 09:42:35   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/cal-thomas-christian-nationalism/

Cal Thomas: Christian nationalism - OCTOBER 13, 2022

The subject of “Christian nationalism” has again appeared in our political life, establishing residence in the Republican Party. It is nothing new, though, having taken many forms in the past, including Moral Rearmament, Prohibition, Christian Reconstructionism, Moral Majority, and the Christian Coalition.

In each incarnation, people have been told that something approaching Heaven on Earth can be accomplished through the political system and through a government led by folks who believe as they do. Each time the push has failed to achieve its stated goals.

Leaving aside for a moment the flaw in Christian nationalist theology, let’s apply some pragmatism to these movements, including the latest called “ReAwaken America,” led by former Donald Trump National Security Adviser (for 22 days), Gen. Michael Flynn (retired).

As the respected Pew Research Center has noted, “The decline of Christianity continues at a rapid pace.” That is reflected in the profile of people who are attending Gen. Flynn’s rallies. They appear to be mostly older and white, hardly the image of an America that will follow their generation. Several polls have shown that when asked their religious affiliation, millennials make up the highest percentage (32 percent) of “nones.”

According to Pew, “sixty-five percent of Americans” self-identify as Christians, but it is a diverse group. Among them are Mainline Protestants, who generally v**e for Democrats. Among Evangelicals, there are also divisions, with some v****g for Democrats and others favoring Republicans. Roman Catholics, too, are divided, especially on social issues such as a******n. They also pledge allegiance to competing political parties or identify as Independents.

The question then becomes: how does this minority within a minority within an even smaller minority expect to win e******ns in sufficient numbers to pass legislation that will reverse what they see as a moral and cultural decline? If it could be done, would it not have been done by the previously mentioned movements which enjoyed a larger percentage of like-minded people?

Oklahoma entrepreneur Clay Clark heads the ReAwaken America organization. An Associated Press story about a recent rally in Batavia, New York, quotes him: “I want you to look around and you’ll see a group of people that love this country dearly. At this ReAwaken America Tour, Jesus is King (and) President Donald J. Trump is our president.”

That comment sums up the attempted fusion of faith with politics.

This ideology, this misplaced faith that a fallen humanity can – or should – impose a worldview through government that a majority do not share goes back to at least the time of Jesus. In the Book of Acts, the Disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?” (Acts 1:6 NLT). They were looking for an earthly kingdom with themselves in charge. They wanted to throw off the Roman occupation and “take over.” Make Israel great again!

Later, Jesus would respond to Pontius Pilate who asked Him if He was a king: “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36 NLT). That statement is a powerful rebuke to those who seek a kingdom that would be as flawed as they are if it ever came to fruition.

I have always appreciated this observation from C.S. Lewis, which speaks to the current and past movements of “Christian soldiers” wishing to t***sform America into their image: “Aim at Heaven and you will get Earth ‘thrown in’; aim at Earth and you will get neither.”

Perhaps these well-intentioned but misguided Christian nationalists should obey the commands of the One they claim to follow (and I don’t mean Donald Trump). When that was the priority for Christians in the past, culture changed. A re-awakened America won’t come through politics and government no matter how strongly Christian nationalists wish for it.


Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribpub.com. Look for Cal Thomas’ latest book “America’s Expiration Date: The Fall of Empires and Superpowers and the Future of the United States” (HarperCollins/Zondervan).

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Hearts have to change. Laws will never change them.

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