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May 4, 2023 17:34:41   #
Airforceone
 
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.

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May 4, 2023 17:38:56   #
Liberty Tree
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)


You are not delirious enough to think anyone takes you seriously, are you? You are just considered a h**e filled clown trying to be significant and failing.

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May 4, 2023 17:48:57   #
mannng5 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)


NWR

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May 4, 2023 17:58:56   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)



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May 4, 2023 18:08:51   #
lindynduff1
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)


Thank you for a really well written article. I too think about what to do for MAGA. I think one really good way, if you are a calm person, not taking sides, not blowing up or really good at not taking cruel remarks personally, it is possible to simply listen. No one ever said that vicious or cruel remarks require an answer. I know most people want to be listened to. Again, most people want to be listened to. I can do that. It gets hard for me when they are disrespectful, as in laughing at me and attempting to make me feel less. Ok I understand that and I know when people say something mean or unkind, to just let it go. It’s very very hard, that’s why if you can stay calm and with them, it will tell you things about the speaker. I will start to talk reasonably and quietly. In other words when MAGA starts a. A fight, it’s not a fight to me because I’m listening, it’s more of an exploration. We can demonstrate listening. B T W “Listening is the most loving thing one human can do for another.” Probably the Bhuddah.

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May 4, 2023 18:13:40   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
Thank you for a really well written article. I too think about what to do for MAGA. I think one really good way, if you are a calm person, not taking sides, not blowing up or really good at not taking cruel remarks personally, it is possible to simply listen. No one ever said that vicious or cruel remarks require an answer. I know most people want to be listened to. Again, most people want to be listened to. I can do that. It gets hard for me when they are disrespectful, as in laughing at me and attempting to make me feel less. Ok I understand that and I know when people say something mean or unkind, to just let it go. It’s very very hard, that’s why if you can stay calm and with them, it will tell you things about the speaker. I will start to talk reasonably and quietly. In other words when MAGA starts a. A fight, it’s not a fight to me because I’m listening, it’s more of an exploration. We can demonstrate listening. B T W “Listening is the most loving thing one human can do for another.” Probably the Bhuddah.
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Really, you said THEM? WE ARE ALL AMERICANS. Don't try to set yourself above THEM.

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May 4, 2023 18:18:44   #
BIRDMAN
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
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May 4, 2023 18:20:03   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)



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May 4, 2023 18:22:53   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
Thank you for a really well written article. I too think about what to do for MAGA. I think one really good way, if you are a calm person, not taking sides, not blowing up or really good at not taking cruel remarks personally, it is possible to simply listen. No one ever said that vicious or cruel remarks require an answer. I know most people want to be listened to. Again, most people want to be listened to. I can do that. It gets hard for me when they are disrespectful, as in laughing at me and attempting to make me feel less. Ok I understand that and I know when people say something mean or unkind, to just let it go. It’s very, very hard, that’s why if you can stay calm and with them, it will tell you things about the speaker. I will start to talk reasonably and quietly. In other words when MAGA starts a. A fight, it’s not a fight to me because I’m listening, it’s more of an exploration. We can demonstrate listening. B T W “Listening is the most loving thing one human can do for another.” Probably the Bhuddah.
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May 4, 2023 18:25:58   #
American Vet
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)

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May 4, 2023 18:47:10   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
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Excellent and t***hful Post

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May 4, 2023 18:48:13   #
American Vet
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
Excellent and t***hful Post


Nope.

Several quite obvious lies.

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May 4, 2023 19:02:43   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
Thank you for a really well written article. I too think about what to do for MAGA. I think one really good way, if you are a calm person, not taking sides, not blowing up or really good at not taking cruel remarks personally, it is possible to simply listen. No one ever said that vicious or cruel remarks require an answer. I know most people want to be listened to. Again, most people want to be listened to. I can do that. It gets hard for me when they are disrespectful, as in laughing at me and attempting to make me feel less. Ok I understand that and I know when people say something mean or unkind, to just let it go. It’s very very hard, that’s why if you can stay calm and with them, it will tell you things about the speaker. I will start to talk reasonably and quietly. In other words when MAGA starts a. A fight, it’s not a fight to me because I’m listening, it’s more of an exploration. We can demonstrate listening. B T W “Listening is the most loving thing one human can do for another.” Probably the Bhuddah.
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That ignorant fool did not write the article, his Gin soaked brain is a 3rd grade special needs level at best.

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May 4, 2023 19:06:57   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
[quote=Airforceone]Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.

Yup she did testify under oath. And set a record for the number of times "I don't recall" was used in court.

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May 4, 2023 20:02:18   #
pescado rojo
 
Airforceone wrote:
As we move forward we all have to understand the way MAGA folks believe that no matter what MAGA for some reason will never admit to any wrong doings by Trump. We have to figure out how to help these people because thru the e*******l college, gerrymandering, v**er suppression, and to utilize
in red states v**er suppression, crazy v**er ID laws and changing the laws in red states how an e******n gets certified to bypass the winner of the e******n and appoint the loser they will always have influence over our elected officials. So we have to stop insulting these people and attempt to help them.

Case in point I asked a simple question about the 5 prior mass k*****gs in this country. But MAGA folks refused to answer about 4 of these k*****gs. But they did jump on one which was the 5 execution style k*****gs in Texas by an illegal. And what they did is blame Biden and use that ridiculous talking point that Biden opened up our borders and allowed the k**ler into this country. This guy was already in this country he came here under Trump Now we as common sense Americans can’t understand why they blame Biden and then totally ignore Texas law which allowed an I*****l i*******t the ability to purchase an AR-15 in a Texas gun shop. No background check. But as far as MAGA is concerned it’s all Biden’s fault. I just don’t understand

But now going forward let’s take a look at a few issues and keep in mind MAGA believes Trump-has never broken any laws in this country. He will go down in History as the greatest president ever.

Since Trump took office there was a 3 year investigations into Obama and Clinton. Over 97 subpoenas were issued and all Obama and Clinton people showed up and testified under oath. Trump and his officials all defied any subpoenas that were issued by congress. Clinton also answered every subpoena by all agencies and was willing to testify under oath.Now keep in mind Senate, House committees were controlled by republicans, FBI, CIA directors were Trump appointees, add in the DOJ the Attorney General was in charge and also a Trump appointee. Then congress appointed a special council to investigate Clinton and the state department which Clinton was the Secretary of State. All reports from all these agencies found no wrongdoing by either Obama or Clinton and there was not one indictment by any Obama or Clinton official. Just make note of that no indictments that I can find. That’s not to mention that some MAGA supporter might find someone. But that’s okay.

Now moving forward to Trump since he took office 7 Aides to Trump criminally charged additionally 6 charged as part of the Mueller investigation as part of Russian interference and 34 other individuals resulted in indictments all affiliated with Trump in some way.
But MAGA folks are 100% convinced that Trump was not part of any Russian interference. We all remember Trump making the comment that he was 100% exonerated. But MAGA refuses to understand Mueller was blocked by the DOJ meaning Rosenstein and Barr from investigating Trump because he was the president of the US.

This country has an agency that’s called (OFFICE OF THE PARDON AGENCY), (OPA). The normal procedure for p**********l pardons is to submit request for Pardons to the (OPA) which all presidents abide by. Trump bypassed that agency in all cases with his inner circle of aides.
The majority of Trumps Clemency grants were made to well connected Trump convicts who did not file with the OPA because they did not meet OPA requirements for a clemency.

Now that Trump has pardon most of his inner circle. And don’t forget there would have been other pardons by Trump if he had the ability to Pardon these people for state crimes.
Now let’s move to Trumps foot soldier's which number in the thousands. And Trump no longer the president can pardon these convicts.

Nine of the O**h k****rs leaders have been found guilty and face 20 or up to 50 years in jail. All nine used the reason for committing these s******n crimes as our leader President Donald Trump directed use to the capital and stop the steal.

Keep in mind 138 officers in the 1/3 i**********n incited by Trump and Giuliani were injured and 11 hospitalized. And Donald Trump sat in the White House as all this unfolded and did nothing for over 4 hours.

Now today we are seeing that 5 of the p***d b**s leaders have been found guilty of s******n conspiracy to over throw our government. They all face up to 25 to 50 years in jail. There are over 1000 more p***d b**s and O**h k****rs awaiting there trials.

Now that all o**h k****rs and P***d b**s leaders are heading to jail most of there followers are now willing to plead guilty and avoid a trial for reduced sentences.I think these lower level terrorist should plead guilty. They are not very bright people and they all thought they were following the directions of the leader of this country President Donald Trump.

The DOJ choose to indict the leaders of the p***d b**s and o**h k****rs with hopes they would plead guilty and avoid these lengthy trails for a lower sentence.

But as I do this research and try to figure out the mindset of the MAGA folks when you see these close aids and Trumps inner circle and all the way down to his foot soldiers all being convicted and receiving lengthy jails time. The MAGA folks still support him for president. (WHY) and don’t forget he has two ongoing trials for fraud and rape with additional indictments coming.

But MAGA is convinced that this is all a left wing attack on Trump. But they ignore the fact that the left wing believes in the rule of law and nobody is above the law.

The reason for this post and I know the typical right wing extremists on OPP will not answer the topic and will throw there typical insults.
And please don’t forget the lawsuits generated by Trump and his big lie where 42 lower courts, 5 state supreme courts, and the Supreme Court of the US threw out all these cases out and indicated as frivolous. There was one judge that actually fined his lawyers almost $1 million for in his words wasting the time in his courtroom.

Can you just imagine how Hugh the cost to the American tax payers on the state and federal level to investigate and try these people in the court of law due to the Trump presidency. Just think there were 5 red states that started v***r f***d investigation and found nothing. What about the states that had d******n v**er machines the cost to recount paper b****ts and found e******n to be fair.

V***r f***d was started by Bush he spent alone $385 million dollars of tax payer money only to stop the investigation after 2 years because they found nothing. There was well over $355 million spent on house and senate investigation on Clinton by republicans. Now I was going to attempt to figure out the tax payer money on state and local levels due to the criminal cabal that operated out of the Trump White House. But it will go into the billions. It cost Fox $787 million for buying into Trumps big lie.

(BUT MAGA FOLKS BELIEVE AND ARE 100% CONVINCED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NEVER BROKEN ANY LAWS BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY)

So my thoughts and prayers go out to these MAGA folks with hopes that they will understand the cost to this nation from the day Trump came down the escalator to today as we watch Trumps foot soldiers all headed to jail along with Trumps aides.
As we move forward we all have to understand the w... (show quote)


You are a liar. You could not do research if your worthless life depended on it. You have no proof, no sources, no anything except your opinion which usually gives both ignorance and stupidity a bad name. Of course, it's easier to post a lie if you never offer any proof, isn't it, tdrsnest?

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