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May 3, 2023 18:56:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pulled from Quora....

If Trump is so incompetent, why was he able to negotiate and pressure better trade agreement (with Mexico, Canada, and China) than his predecessors (Clinton, Bush, Obama)?
Wow.

Just… wow.

You realize that Clinton negotiated NAFTA, right?

And that all trump did was negotiate some minor revisions to Clinton’s deal, the sort of thing that in previous administrations wouldn’t have even merited a press release?

And that it was Clinton that got China into the WTO, greatly reducing trade friction with the US?

Or that Obama negotiated the T***s Pacific Protocol, which would have committed 40% of the world’s economy to playing by “our” rules — and excluding China? You know TPP: it’s the deal trump ripped up because it was one of Obama’s signature achievements. And that allowed China to take a seat at the head of the table.

Or that Bush increased the number of free trade agreements between America and individual countries from 3 to 16?

Let’s finish with trump’s “deal” with China. He announced it was a “historic” agreement that would commit China to buying an additional $200 billion worth of American products. Sounds great, right?

So how much of that $200 billion did China actually buy?

None.

Zero.

Zip.

You clearly don’t understand that trump is completely full of s**t, and has the attention span of a gnat. He pays a tiny amount of attention only long enough to hear something he can turn into a story about how he’s the bestest boy ever. And he does that because about 1/3 of the country still hasn’t worked out the s**m, and believes the nonsense he feeds them.

He hasn’t got the patience to sweat the details, like China not having an OBLIGATION to buy anything (they promised “best efforts”). All he wants is the sound bite.



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May 3, 2023 19:01:06   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora....

If Trump is so incompetent, why was he able to negotiate and pressure better trade agreement (with Mexico, Canada, and China) than his predecessors (Clinton, Bush, Obama)?
Wow.

Just… wow.

You realize that Clinton negotiated NAFTA, right?

And that all trump did was negotiate some minor revisions to Clinton’s deal, the sort of thing that in previous administrations wouldn’t have even merited a press release?

And that it was Clinton that got China into the WTO, greatly reducing trade friction with the US?

Or that Obama negotiated the T***s Pacific Protocol, which would have committed 40% of the world’s economy to playing by “our” rules — and excluding China? You know TPP: it’s the deal trump ripped up because it was one of Obama’s signature achievements. And that allowed China to take a seat at the head of the table.

Or that Bush increased the number of free trade agreements between America and individual countries from 3 to 16?

Let’s finish with trump’s “deal” with China. He announced it was a “historic” agreement that would commit China to buying an additional $200 billion worth of American products. Sounds great, right?

So how much of that $200 billion did China actually buy?

None.

Zero.

Zip.

You clearly don’t understand that trump is completely full of s**t, and has the attention span of a gnat. He pays a tiny amount of attention only long enough to hear something he can turn into a story about how he’s the bestest boy ever. And he does that because about 1/3 of the country still hasn’t worked out the s**m, and believes the nonsense he feeds them.

He hasn’t got the patience to sweat the details, like China not having an OBLIGATION to buy anything (they promised “best efforts”). All he wants is the sound bite.
Pulled from Quora.... br br If Trump is so inco... (show quote)


” You realize that Clinton negotiated NAFTA, right?”, which led to the offshoring of a multitude of jobs and industries. The business tax reduction was an effort to have industries return jobs and monies from offshore.

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May 3, 2023 19:14:25   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora....

If Trump is so incompetent, why was he able to negotiate and pressure better trade agreement (with Mexico, Canada, and China) than his predecessors (Clinton, Bush, Obama)?
Wow.

Just… wow.

You realize that Clinton negotiated NAFTA, right?

And that all trump did was negotiate some minor revisions to Clinton’s deal, the sort of thing that in previous administrations wouldn’t have even merited a press release?

And that it was Clinton that got China into the WTO, greatly reducing trade friction with the US?

Or that Obama negotiated the T***s Pacific Protocol, which would have committed 40% of the world’s economy to playing by “our” rules — and excluding China? You know TPP: it’s the deal trump ripped up because it was one of Obama’s signature achievements. And that allowed China to take a seat at the head of the table.

Or that Bush increased the number of free trade agreements between America and individual countries from 3 to 16?

Let’s finish with trump’s “deal” with China. He announced it was a “historic” agreement that would commit China to buying an additional $200 billion worth of American products. Sounds great, right?

So how much of that $200 billion did China actually buy?

None.

Zero.

Zip.

You clearly don’t understand that trump is completely full of s**t, and has the attention span of a gnat. He pays a tiny amount of attention only long enough to hear something he can turn into a story about how he’s the bestest boy ever. And he does that because about 1/3 of the country still hasn’t worked out the s**m, and believes the nonsense he feeds them.

He hasn’t got the patience to sweat the details, like China not having an OBLIGATION to buy anything (they promised “best efforts”). All he wants is the sound bite.
Pulled from Quora.... br br If Trump is so inco... (show quote)


Pulled from Quora......

None of you people are capable of having an original thought, are you?

I would think a guy as old as you would be tired of being told how to think. Looks like my thinking was wrong.
That does happen sometimes when you think independently.

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May 3, 2023 19:20:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
Pulled from Quora......

None of you people are capable of having an original thought, are you?

I would think a guy as old as you would be tired of being told how to think. Looks like my thinking was wrong.
That does happen sometimes when you think independently.


Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..

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May 3, 2023 19:22:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
” You realize that Clinton negotiated NAFTA, right?”, which led to the offshoring of a multitude of jobs and industries. The business tax reduction was an effort to have industries return jobs and monies from offshore.


the single biggest influence to offshoring was Reagan making it tax deductible on top of all the cheap labor the corporations gained.. all about the money to corporations and their republican allies..

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May 3, 2023 19:32:45   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns..


The above sentence is an unmitigated unt***h!!!

Quote:
It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..


And what of your party that has become nothing short of a mouthpiece for socialism or worse? Definitely the party of perversion, victimhood, and murder.

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May 3, 2023 19:34:12   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
the single biggest influence to offshoring was Reagan making it tax deductible on top of all the cheap labor the corporations gained.. all about the money to corporations and their republican allies..


It may have been his influence; however, it happened under Clinton. You can spin till the cows are milked; however, it was under Clinton.

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May 3, 2023 19:48:34   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..


LOL

PermaDummy is on a roll!

Better run to the basement safe place, hug kitty, have Mommy bring you warm milk and cookies.

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May 3, 2023 19:49:17   #
American Vet
 
AuntiE wrote:
It may have been his influence; however, it happened under Clinton. You can spin till the cows are milked; however, it was under Clinton.


PermaDummy is a chronic liar.

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May 3, 2023 19:52:41   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..


Such a thing to say......
In other words, I'm not allowing you to tell me how to think? How to take a step back, and process for myself what could possibly be the root of the problem?
As an aside; I've never accused you, personally, of wanting to come take my guns. Because, like all others here, you can't do it.
However, you DO want to use the power of the Federal Government to do it.
Here's an idea. How bout you come down to Texas, and offer some humanitarian aid to all of these poor souls flooding our border?
Eh, nevermind. You just stay up there in your little out of the way safe space, read your bulls**t, and continue to deny what real people's own lying eyes are telling them.

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May 3, 2023 20:27:07   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..
When are you playing at the Comedy Club? I've got to catch your performance.



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May 3, 2023 20:53:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..
I don't believe I've ever encountered a l*****t who is as full of s**t as you.

You have a terminal case of Denial.

You've got your head so far up your ass you're in danger of turning yourself inside out.

I mean, seriously, who the hell are you to be telling right wingers about gun problems
when you have no clue what those problems are?

Who the hell are you to decide what is best for our nation and our people?

Who the hell are you to accept no responsibility whatsoever for the situation our country is in
and blame it on the people you despise?

Who the hell are you to say there is "NO HOPE" for our country when you are one of the i***ts who rejected, condemned and demonized the concept of Making America Great Again?



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May 3, 2023 23:19:42   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I don't believe I've ever encountered a l*****t who is as full of s**t as you.

You have a terminal case of Denial.

You've got your head so far up your ass you're in danger of turning yourself inside out.

I mean, seriously, who the hell are you to be telling right wingers about gun problems
when you have no clue what those problems are?

Who the hell are you to decide what is best for our nation and our people?

Who the hell are you to accept no responsibility whatsoever for the situation our country is in
and blame it on the people you despise?

Who the hell are you to say there is "NO HOPE" for our country when you are one of the i***ts who rejected, condemned and demonized the concept of Making America Great Again?
I don't believe I've ever encountered a l*****t wh... (show quote)


MAGA remains a lofty proposal that is unclear at best .
It’s vague , vapid , ethereal , and stupid .
What exactly did maga accomplish in the
4 years of the one term , twice impeached ,
Presently indicted for Multiple Felonies including but not limited to s******n , i**********n , fraud , falsifying documents,
Lying to the irs , harboring top secret documents, e******n f***d ,
And now we can also add rape to this marvelous list of MAGA accomplishments!!!
For Crissakes !!!
President Again ???
You’ve got to be joking !!!
It will only fly in Somalia!

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May 4, 2023 13:26:00   #
martsiva
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a thing to say, after hours of telling the right wingers about the gun problem and never had any of them say anything other then I was trying to confiscate their guns.. It is clear to me that no right wing nut on the face of the earth can do anything but echo the words they are instructed to say.. can not even compute what is said in a clear sentence.. NO HOPE for this country.. the right wing of the once republican party have k**led it as we watched..


So red f**g laws are not confiscation of guns??

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May 4, 2023 14:16:51   #
Holden Mcgroin
 
when in the history of our country did they ever take our guns? You have been lied to, stop repeating that GOP bulls**t! Develop a brain and think for yourself

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