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Dec 9, 2014 17:57:33   #
Grugore
 
marjorie wrote:
grugore This is truly a pacifists beyond reason. Self defense is my take and with a gun preferably. That's why I practice weekly at a gun range. I can also say "God loves you. "Have a MERRY CHRSTMAS"


And a white one too?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Dec 9, 2014 18:32:09   #
Singularity
 
Grugore wrote:
Self defense is not murder. If someone dies as a result of attacking me or my loved ones, they brought it on themselves. I had nothing to do with it. Their death would be a direct result of their own actions, and I would consider myself blameless. I'll never understand pacifists.

I am saying I am physically incapable of k*****g an aggressor at this point in my life. So do I send my SONS to risk precious life and limbs in my defense? When my first baby was placed in my arms, I KNEW that if he were in the path of a speeding locomotive, no prob, my invincible MOM body would repel the train and I would not have hesitated to throw myself over him to protect him expecting no resulting injury to myself or him! Should I now allow myself to become that locomotive? Demand that they now perish for me and what little time I have left?

I'm a little more sensible now. I know I do not have the power to k**l an aggressor in combat. I have alternatives.

A few years ago I was in the hospital to withdraw from massive amounts of pain meds following orthopedic surguries. A man, 300+ lb 6+ ft, began harassing the four women at our table. I asked him to leave us alone. He became excited, jumped up and grabbed my cane, swinging it and stating he would teach us all a lesson. As the cane swooshed over my head, I grabbed his left middle finger with my right hand, walked it under his armpit turned it backwards to his back with only a slight amount of pressure. I told him, "It takes as much pressure to break your knuckle as to snap a popsicle stick." He answered correctly, "Yes, ma'am?" We negotiated the return of my cane and an apology to my companions. I thanked him to leave our presence. He left.

If its important to you to not take a human life, you can find a way to survive, or you will die for your beliefs. You do understand dying for your beliefs?

I, too, would consider you blameless, but even justified homicide leaves a permanent hole in one's heart.

You are the alpha male protector, forceful, direct and ruthless when needed. I am the mysterious Earth Mother, nurturing female life force, a secret source of hidden strengths, working in mysterious ways behind the scenes.

I suspect both are vital in the whole scheme of things. And perhaps neither of us can handle the t***h, bear the pain of the whole of this question's answer.

Still. I love you.

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Dec 9, 2014 19:10:06   #
Grugore
 
Singularity wrote:
I am saying I am physically incapable of k*****g an aggressor at this point in my life. So do I send my SONS to risk precious life and limbs in my defense? When my first baby was placed in my arms, I KNEW that if he were in the path of a speeding locomotive, no prob, my invincible MOM body would repel the train and I would not have hesitated to throw myself over him to protect him expecting no resulting injury to myself or him! Should I now allow myself to become that locomotive? Demand that they now perish for me and what little time I have left?

I'm a little more sensible now. I know I do not have the power to k**l an aggressor in combat. I have alternatives.

A few years ago I was in the hospital to withdraw from massive amounts of pain meds following orthopedic surguries. A man, 300+ lb 6+ ft, began harassing the four women at our table. I asked him to leave us alone. He became excited, jumped up and grabbed my cane, swinging it and stating he would teach us all a lesson. As the cane swooshed over my head, I grabbed his left middle finger with my right hand, walked it under his armpit turned it backwards to his back with only a slight amount of pressure. I told him, "It takes as much pressure to break your knuckle as to snap a popsicle stick." He answered correctly, "Yes, ma'am?" We negotiated the return of my cane and an apology to my companions. I thanked him to leave our presence. He left.

If its important to you to not take a human life, you can find a way to survive, or you will die for your beliefs. You do understand dying for your beliefs?

I, too, would consider you blameless, but even justified homicide leaves a permanent hole in one's heart.

You are the alpha male protector, forceful, direct and ruthless when needed. I am the mysterious Earth Mother, nurturing female life force, a secret source of hidden strengths, working in mysterious ways behind the scenes.

I suspect both are vital in the whole scheme of things. And perhaps neither of us can handle the t***h, bear the pain of the whole of this question's answer.

Still. I love you.
I am saying I am physically incapable of k*****g a... (show quote)


Wh**ever works for you. Personally, I hope I never have to shoot someone. Usually, the mere presence of a firearm is enough to stop someone. It's the stupid ones you need to pull the trigger on.

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Dec 9, 2014 19:23:49   #
Singularity
 
Grugore wrote:
Wh**ever works for you. Personally, I hope I never have to shoot someone. Usually, the mere presence of a firearm is enough to stop someone. It's the stupid ones you need to pull the trigger on.

I hope neither of us face that situation.

We agree! OPP magic?&#128079;

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Dec 9, 2014 20:16:25   #
marjorie
 
singularity For me its not magic. Its God with me as in "MERRY CHRISTMAS".

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Dec 9, 2014 21:20:39   #
Singularity
 
marjorie wrote:
singularity For me its not magic. Its God with me as in "MERRY CHRISTMAS".


Merry Christmas, dear!

May your belief in God comfort and keep you.

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Dec 10, 2014 00:18:11   #
marjorie
 
singularity Its more than a belief. Its a LIFE. Its a life of love beyond one's understanding. To think Christ gave HIS LIFE that my faith in HIM will give me a LIFE EVERLASTING. That is AWESOME. Only (2) places to go. Heaven or hell and I chose the one where I will meet my SAVIOUR and also those who have chosen JESUS CHRIST that were in my family. What a reunion that will be!!!!!!!!!and the remembrance of MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Dec 10, 2014 02:03:54   #
W8_4_It
 
Kevyn wrote:
If you want to see a real h**eful monster take a look at Grugore, he wants to exterminate 1.57 billion men women and children.


Well what can you say to that?

Except for "Merry Christmas" Kevyn.

"Merry Christmas Muslims" and "Merry Christmas" to 'Barack Hussein Obama".

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