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Apr 23, 2023 12:56:12   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
ksaves wrote:
Big Kahuna, respectfully, you're an i***t. Period.

Ummmmmmm...... The patient has to institute healthy habits to have an optimal length of life. I spent my primary care medical career ranting and raving to them to do so but they just..............Continued their lousy health habits. I then had to struggle with manipulating diabetic and anti-hypertension meds until they die. All the while trying to educate them what they need to do and know they are ignoring me. Oh, did I mention the obesity problem? It is effing rampant!

I could preach until I was blue in the face and the vast majority "eat chit and die". PERIOD!! No matter what I told them!!!

Don't give me your B.S. about the medicos "not" trying to care for people. It's the PEOPLE'S fault for living unhealthy lives and ignoring their M.D.'s advice!! You're a F.O.S. a-hole in my book for your attitude and can go to where the devil lives and I mean that royally.

I did have patients who had problems, followed my advice and busted their buns to do so. They did well. Well yeah, I had to use drugs on them but at least they didn't stroke out, have a heart attack or have their legs cut off. A wise person will know what meds I needed to use prevent the above conditions. It was so gratifying to see a patient who followed my advice early on and did well taking, oh my gosh "gasp" drugs! They lived a long life even if they were older before I put them on meds. Jesus Christ, I didn't put anyone on a med who didn't need it. When I came "online" there was a lot of stuff with minimal side effects that I liked using to help folks.

Some of my best patients were the ones I knew had "something" but I wasn't able to pin it down. I'd send them off to a nearby medical center with specialists or sometimes to Mayo's and man when they got the diagnosis they came back and were so grateful I put them where they needed to be. Once the diagnosis was made, most of the time I could manage it and they would follow up with the specialists every now and then to make sure we kept the care fine tuned with a chronic problem. These folks had a treatable and sometimes chronic medical condition.

Bad cancer was easily diagnoseable when C.T. and later MRI imaging came online at the local hospital level and I and my local specialists could diagnose that unfortunate situation. It was the worst thing and sad for me tell a person they "most likely" had a terminal cancer. They say "chit" rolls downhill. It was usually up to the primary care guy to break the bad news to the patient.

That took a toll on my emotionality. I remembered in my surgical days the adage, "Good people get bad disease."
I saw a lot of folks suffer through no fault of their own. Glad I was able to retire from this a couple of years ago. I just couldn't stay up all night long answering phone calls and running to the hospital anymore. Time to go and I'm so much happier now though I miss my deceased wife. She died young through no fault of her own. Kurt (yeah a retired M.D.)
Big Kahuna, respectfully, you're an i***t. Period.... (show quote)


Sounds like you might be one of the good ones. But if you think that there isn't failed/bad medical tx out there, you're wrong. I loss a brother at 29 years old. His first major heart attack was at 27 when he waited in an emergency room for care and staff assumed he was there for "drugs", over heard by patient in waiting room. He was an owner/operator cross country driver, not a drug addict, not an alcohol. A hard worker who was able to become his own boss at age of 25 yrs. A home owner, married with one child. He wasn't obese, he played tennis like he drank water so I would say he lived pretty healthy life style. No, not all medical people set aside "presumptions" and do the right thing. They have biases also, make assumptions and send people home who should be monitor. So don't blame it all on the patient although I do believe some contribute to their own health problems. But as a doctor, if that's what you were, it's not your job to judge, educate yes, judge no.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:43:24   #
Big Kahuna
 
Justice101 wrote:
I would like to point out that those lawyers who you say are so-called "die hard l*****ts" turn out to be fair judges who interpret the U.S. Constitution the way it is written, and it really depends on which type of law practices are considered more left leaning than others. Government and civil rights lawyers are considered to be the most l*****t.


Okay 20% of attorneys are Conservative leaning and 80% lean left. The scale of justice is unbalanced.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:44:08   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The Federalist Society is not die hard l*****ts.


There are a few exceptions to every rule.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:46:18   #
Big Kahuna
 
microphor wrote:
Sounds like you might be one of the good ones. But if you think that there isn't failed/bad medical tx out there, you're wrong. I loss a brother at 29 years old. His first major heart attack was at 27 when he waited in an emergency room for care and staff assumed he was there for "drugs", over heard by patient in waiting room. He was an owner/operator cross country driver, not a drug addict, not an alcohol. A hard worker who was able to become his own boss at age of 25 yrs. A home owner, married with one child. He wasn't obese, he played tennis like he drank water so I would say he lived pretty healthy life style. No, not all medical people set aside "presumptions" and do the right thing. They have biases also, make assumptions and send people home who should be monitor. So don't blame it all on the patient although I do believe some contribute to their own health problems. But as a doctor, if that's what you were, it's not your job to judge, educate yes, judge no.
Sounds like you might be one of the good ones. Bu... (show quote)


You are right. The word doctor means teacher and teaching should be a priority of medical personnel.

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Apr 23, 2023 13:52:22   #
Justice101
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Okay 20% of attorneys are Conservative leaning and 80% lean left. The scale of justice is unbalanced.


Let's get rid of the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU, and we may even it out to 50-50? (sarc)

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Apr 23, 2023 15:23:30   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
You are right. The word doctor means teacher and teaching should be a priority of medical personnel.


Thank you Kanua

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Apr 23, 2023 17:14:11   #
son of witless
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The Federalist Society is not die hard l*****ts.


And your point is ?

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Apr 23, 2023 19:43:23   #
ksaves
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
I could turn you in to admin for calling me an i***t but I won't. You have some good points and might be a good guy but the medical profession promotes toxic v**xes, the suppression of break through cures,,over prescribes pharmaceuticals for every illness, harvesting of internal organs,, political correctness and surgery for the t***sformation of a 5 year old from a girl to a boy, medical studies skewed to favor big daddy l*****t government instead of factual scientific studies paid for by big daddy government. The list is endless. The allopathic model is now outdated and corrupted by left wing fools.
I could turn you in to admin for calling me an i**... (show quote)


I didn't threaten you but I spent a career in medicine trying to get people to change their habits and they didn't. Some did and had good outcomes. Ummmm, some folks are genetically programmed to have horrendous cholesterol levels and are programmed to die young. Some are genetically programmed to get diabetes but weight is a factor here. I had folks with Type 2 diabetes and were at normal weight. Not their fault but they needed meds to lower their blood sugar and sometimes lipids for a long life. Use meds and they achieve a normal lifespan. Yeah, one has to watch for side effects and we worked with that and monitored them carefully. To say that docs throw meds willy-nilly at patients is an absolute insulting, ludicrous and naive view. That's how you jerked my chain.

Blaming medical people for the poor health in this country is totally WRONG! To use the old adage, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink!" holds true here. Mind you, it's nothing personal but I think your attitude is wrong to blame the medical establishment for the lousy health of a nation. It's the patients fault because, "THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR ADVICE PERIOD!!". q.e.d. Kurt

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Apr 24, 2023 06:28:31   #
Big Kahuna
 
ksaves wrote:
I didn't threaten you but I spent a career in medicine trying to get people to change their habits and they didn't. Some did and had good outcomes. Ummmm, some folks are genetically programmed to have horrendous cholesterol levels and are programmed to die young. Some are genetically programmed to get diabetes but weight is a factor here. I had folks with Type 2 diabetes and were at normal weight. Not their fault but they needed meds to lower their blood sugar and sometimes lipids for a long life. Use meds and they achieve a normal lifespan. Yeah, one has to watch for side effects and we worked with that and monitored them carefully. To say that docs throw meds willy-nilly at patients is an absolute insulting, ludicrous and naive view. That's how you jerked my chain.

Blaming medical people for the poor health in this country is totally WRONG! To use the old adage, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink!" holds true here. Mind you, it's nothing personal but I think your attitude is wrong to blame the medical establishment for the lousy health of a nation. It's the patients fault because, "THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR ADVICE PERIOD!!". q.e.d. Kurt
I didn't threaten you but I spent a career in medi... (show quote)


I agree that people are responsible for their own health and can't blame the doctors. There is enough good info on the internet too if patients want to look it up. What I have a problem with is the AMA dictating to docs how they have to practice or their licenses are revoked. This W***n v***s was just 1 example of how the AMA suppressed doctors who knew Ivermectin and HCQ worked to prevent the v***s from replicating. I had friends that were severely harmed by the toxic W***n mandated jab.. Ine friend lost his hearing in both ears after the jab and now wears hearing aids. Another friend lost vision in both eyes from the jab and now wears thick glasses to see.. Some of my friends have had myocarditis and hematomas from the toxic jab.. So much for medicine.. The studies were out there but big daddy government, big pharma and the corrupt media suppressed the data and cures for the v***s. The ads on TV get nauseating with big pharma promoting their meds every minute on the boob tube with the phrase, "ask your Dr" being said over and over. Docs are so busy the patient can't even ask his doctor any questions and the docs are out of the room going to their next patient. Docs have to write too many notes to make sure they cover their a$$es in case of a law suit. The medical associations suppress info on natural cures, natural nutrition and anything that would infringe on their territory or take away their profits. How long will we throw billions at the cure for cancer and the medics still can't figure it out? Maybe it's time to let others try and figure out the cure for cancer. The allopathic model has been an utter disaster when it comes to prevention. They have fought the usage of vitamins, minerals and alternative treatments from day 1. The medics have k**led millions with their iatrogenic diseases, botched surgeries, misdiagnosis, and the over prescribing of drugs with the side effects worse than the disease. If you want the figures on how bad the medical field is in harming patients I will be happy to supply those to you. By the way, you don't have to threaten someone to be kicked off this site. Using derogatory terms can get you probation or ostracizism.

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