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Apr 6, 2023 16:03:49   #
Big dog
 
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.

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Apr 6, 2023 16:39:40   #
okie don
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyo... (show quote)

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As an Army vet, well stated.

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Apr 6, 2023 16:43:09   #
woodguru
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyo... (show quote)


Meanwhile the main issue about guns is a better degree of keeping them out of the hands of mentally unstable people, which is where the rub is in terms of unhinged right wingers.

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Apr 6, 2023 16:44:22   #
woodguru
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyo... (show quote)


What you believe has nothing to do with facts, and it is not your heart that does the thinking, but then neither does your head huh?

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Apr 6, 2023 17:21:06   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
Meanwhile the main issue about guns is a better degree of keeping them out of the hands of mentally unstable people, which is where the rub is in terms of unhinged right wingers.


All that has to be done is to have them adjudged mentally unstable in a court of law.

What’s the problem?

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Apr 6, 2023 17:28:41   #
Big dog
 
[quote=woodguru]Meanwhile the main issue about guns is a better degree of keeping them out of the hands of mentally unstable people, which is where the rub is in terms of unhinged right wingers.[/quote

Mentally unstable people exist along the entire spectrum of of v**ers, but obviously your only concerned about the right wing. Is that an admission that all Left wingers are, as you put it, mentally unhinged?

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Apr 6, 2023 18:08:43   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyo... (show quote)


Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the lack of gun regulations have led to hundreds of mass shootings including innocent children. I believe that assault style rifles, like the AR 15 should be outlawed for civilian use, along with high capacity magazines. A serious background check should be made of every gun sale. Red f**g laws should be made mandatory for every gun purchaser. There is nothing unconstitutional about outlawing dangerous weapons from sale. Machine guns are certainly outlawed because of the danger they represent, why not assault style rifles? I think that our children must be protected from the crazies that can easily purchase AR rifles.

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Apr 6, 2023 19:22:48   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the lack of gun regulations have led to hundreds of mass shootings including innocent children. I believe that assault style rifles, like the AR 15 should be outlawed for civilian use, along with high capacity magazines. A serious background check should be made of every gun sale. Red f**g laws should be made mandatory for every gun purchaser. There is nothing unconstitutional about outlawing dangerous weapons from sale. Machine guns are certainly outlawed because of the danger they represent, why not assault style rifles? I think that our children must be protected from the crazies that can easily purchase AR rifles.
Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the la... (show quote)


What sort of gun, BB? "Assault Style Rifles?" You mean those AirSoft things for paintball? Do you not realize that your mean old "Assault Style Rifles" are nothing but semi auto rifles that look like their military counterparts.
Do you mean the rifles that, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report are responsible for something like less than 2% of the murders each year? Those "Assault Style Rifles?"
The rifles that each year for the past ten years according to that same FBI annual report are responsible for fewer murders each year for the past ten years than knives? Or clubs? Or bare hands? How about we ban those, Skippy?
Do you propose scrapping the SCOTUS AND the Constitution? Have you ever read the Constitution? Of course not; what was I thinking? If you had you would have come across Article I Sections 9 & 10 which prohibit ex post facto laws. Let me guess, you have no effing idea what those are either.
You have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. You spout feel good drivel and probably don't even realize what you wish to implement is illegal as hell. You know nothing about firearms, nothing about the law, nothing about real life statistics compiled by Federal law enforcement and you don't want to know.

Gun owner my butt. Would you like to know how long it takes to change a magazine in a rifle if the shooter, unlike you even sort of knows what they are doing? I can do it in 3-4 seconds. It took me two or three hours of practice one afternoon while on active duty to acquire this arcane sk**l that clueless Liberals know nothing about. Did it ever occur to you that when your target can't shoot back it doesn't matter if you have a five or fifty round magazine? When I was on active duty forty plus years ago I preferred the 20 round mags over the 30s because they were less prone to magazine spring problems.

I support red f**g laws. For people like you. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to report a Fudd as a danger and watch him be arrested and his guns confiscated without due process, which is what you wish on everyone else.

By the way, you are a liar. Machine guns and selective fire weapons are not outlawed, they are just expensive to own.

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Apr 6, 2023 19:23:55   #
Big dog
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the lack of gun regulations have led to hundreds of mass shootings including innocent children. I believe that assault style rifles, like the AR 15 should be outlawed for civilian use, along with high capacity magazines. A serious background check should be made of every gun sale. Red f**g laws should be made mandatory for every gun purchaser. There is nothing unconstitutional about outlawing dangerous weapons from sale. Machine guns are certainly outlawed because of the danger they represent, why not assault style rifles? I think that our children must be protected from the crazies that can easily purchase AR rifles.
Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the la... (show quote)


1) machine guns are not outlawed, only heavily regulated.
2) strict background checks are fine, provided it’s applied equally to other rights, especially V****g.
3) if those same scary black plastic barrel shrouded, accessory adaptable, nightmare weapons only good for military use, were made out of wood, the anti gun lobby would approve of the wooden guns, just to weaken the American public.
4) this country is going to need every able bodied person that believes in and wants to protect our Constitution and our way of life with everything we have at our disposal. The gauntlet has been dropped when Biden said we would need not ar15’s but F15’s to keep our Nation.
(And as a side note, the Taliban didn’t have F15’s , and they sure as hell beat both the USA and the USSR! ) (F15’s, who says we can’t get a few 😎).
5) If and when you and all the talking heads actually want to make our nation safe again, protect and harden the soft targets that these mentally ill people choose as targets, just to increase their own ( dead) egos.
Get around to mental health, not pushing the blame off on someone inanimate object.

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Apr 6, 2023 19:45:34   #
American Vet
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Big Dog, I am a gun owner, but believe that the lack of gun regulations have led to hundreds of mass shootings including innocent children. I believe that assault style rifles, like the AR 15 should be outlawed for civilian use,


Just to educate you (if possible)



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Apr 6, 2023 20:31:08   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
woodguru wrote:
Meanwhile the main issue about guns is a better degree of keeping them out of the hands of mentally unstable people, which is where the rub is in terms of unhinged right wingers.


You sure about that?



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Apr 6, 2023 20:39:47   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
youngwilliam wrote:
You sure about that?


All freaks!
Perverts!
Losers!
Democrats!
Hellbound!

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Apr 6, 2023 22:28:46   #
okie don
 
woodguru wrote:
What you believe has nothing to do with facts, and it is not your heart that does the thinking, but then neither does your head huh?

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You've probably never served as many of us have.

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Apr 6, 2023 22:34:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyone that wants to take away my gun is to be considered in trustworthy. For me it’s that simple.
When I enlisted I took an oath which I believe lasts as long as I live.
For me, it’s EXTREMELY simple. I know that the only thing protecting all my other rights is my 2nd amendment rights. It’s also the only thing that keeps the enemies of my nation wary of trying to destroy my nation.
Furthermore, I believe, in my heart, that every politician that wants to infringe, and/or abolish my second amendment rights, and has taken an oath to defend our Constitution, is therefore someone that is party to the true i**********n taking place today.
I will continue to defend our Constitution and our nation against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. And right now, the Foreign enemies aren’t even on the horizon.
That’s how I’ve felt since I was 9 years old. Anyo... (show quote)
When you swear the Oath to defend our Constitution and our nation, as James Madison implies in his essay "Property", you own it. No one can take that away.

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Apr 6, 2023 22:44:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Meanwhile the main issue about guns is a better degree of keeping them out of the hands of mentally unstable people, which is where the rub is in terms of unhinged right wingers.
The main issue, woody, is people like you who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the gun control hype.

I do not know a single shooter of guns who isn't adamant about finding ways to keep guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed people. But our hands are tied.

It is the l*****t gun grabbers, by their insane anti-gun legislation, their onerous regulations,
their legal machinations and their judicial malfeasance, who have opened the flood gates to violent crime.

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