The RC Church is in grave trouble
Mar 17, 2023 13:57:46 #
martsiva wrote:
There is no pretrib-rapture. Matthew: 24 - 22.
He’s talking to the Jews. Not the church. The gospels didn’t touch the church much. Our apostle is Paul.
Mar 17, 2023 14:00:55 #
padremike wrote:
This is such a sad article. Protestants need to b... (show quote)
You’re right about the need to stand up against immorality.
Mar 17, 2023 14:10:57 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Rose42 wrote:
You’re right about the need to stand up against immorality.
Rose, faithful Christians have got to persevere and keep the faith together. We've lost so many already. I still find myself in disbelief of how far we've fallen in a relative short time, 60 years. One thing in our favor is that everytime Christians were persecuted in the past we became stronger.
Mar 17, 2023 14:20:34 #
padremike wrote:
Rose, faithful Christians have got to persevere and keep the faith together. We've lost so many already. I still find myself in disbelief of how far we've fallen in a relative short time, 60 years. One thing in our favor is that everytime Christians were persecuted in the past we became stronger.
Why do you think it’s strange that we’ve fallen so far so fast? The great falling away will occur before the man of sin is revealed.
I believe that we are on the precipice of that action.
Mar 17, 2023 14:58:17 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Marty 2020 wrote:
Why do you think it’s strange that we’ve fallen so far so fast? The great falling away will occur before the man of sin is revealed.
I believe that we are on the precipice of that action.
I believe that we are on the precipice of that action.
Every generation has believed there were signs of the Parousia for their time. In WW1 the machine gun, for example, was thought to be the end of mankind. Every Pastor worth his keep should emphasize to always be prepared as Christ taught, not to be like Hal Lindsay and try to predict the end times based on a personal interpretations of scripture. Christ, in his perfect humanity, did not know. Now, having said this, man would be a fool not to keep a weather eye open and seeing the signs we're seeing today get his unruly house in order. My personal thoughts, I stress my personal thoughts, is that it's going to get so much worse than now that mankind will fall on their knees begging for mercy. It was not that long ago in my life span that America enjoyed a life of innocence compared especially to today.
Mar 17, 2023 15:07:57 #
Marty 2020 wrote:
He’s talking to the Jews. Not the church. The gospels didn’t touch the church much. Our apostle is Paul.
So His words only applied to Jews?? Is that what you are saying??
Mar 17, 2023 15:11:14 #
martsiva wrote:
So His words only applied to Jews?? Is that what you are saying??
Nope, just that the Mathew verse, in context, applies to the Jews, during the time of Jacobs trouble.
If you want to know what Jesus said directly to the church, read the Pauline epistles.
Mar 17, 2023 15:58:56 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Marty 2020 wrote:
He’s talking to the Jews. Not the church. The gospels didn’t touch the church much. Our apostle is Paul.
You're making a grievious mistake thinking the Gospels weren't directly for the Church, His Church. Jesus choose His Apostles, His ambassadors who He would take aside and personally teach "that faith once delivered for all times." The Gospels are the good news for His Body, the Church, as well as for all mankind - as He intended. The Gospels are easier to understand compared to Paul who has run on sentences and may change the subject in the middle of the stream. I personally like John's Gospel. John was a thinker. He thought for a long time about what he'd witnessed & heard. Then he wrote about it and gave it to an already prospering Church.
Mar 17, 2023 17:59:36 #
Marty 2020 wrote:
He’s talking to the Jews. Not the church. The gospels didn’t touch the church much. Our apostle is Paul.
Very true...
The rapture is most certainly a Pauline theory...
Mar 17, 2023 18:34:55 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Very true...
The rapture is most certainly a Pauline theory...
The rapture is most certainly a Pauline theory...
Enoch and Elijah are the two examples of it. They will be the 2 lampstands.
Mar 17, 2023 19:21:58 #
padremike wrote:
Rose, faithful Christians have got to persevere and keep the faith together. We've lost so many already. I still find myself in disbelief of how far we've fallen in a relative short time, 60 years. One thing in our favor is that everytime Christians were persecuted in the past we became stronger.
We know who wins in the end.
Mar 17, 2023 19:32:36 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Rose42 wrote:
We know who wins in the end.
Exactly, 2000 years ago the final battle was won. Calvary was a convention for repentant & forgiven sinners. Still, we must fight and resist evil and I know that you are in that battle.
Mar 17, 2023 23:21:26 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Very true...
The rapture is most certainly a Pauline theory...
The rapture is most certainly a Pauline theory...
Thats a secular argument. ‘Pauline’
Mar 17, 2023 23:22:20 #
Rose42 wrote:
Thats a secular argument. ‘Pauline’
What’s that mean?
Mar 17, 2023 23:24:04 #
Rose42 wrote:
Thats a secular argument. ‘Pauline’
Not at all...
Merely an observation that the rupture doctrine relies solely on the words of Paul...
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