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Mar 22, 2023 18:23:32   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I don’t buy it!
More Catholic bs.
Trying to elevate Mary.
Jesus is not called the Son of the Holy Ghost/Spirit!
John 3:16 doesn’t say “The Holy Spirit so loved the world…”!
No disrespect intended, but really! Come on!

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https://www.saintmarys.edu/files/Second%20Monday.pdf
Luke 1:26-38
So, whose son is Jesus according to you?

That's according to your interpretations. I differ from yours.
Quarrelling about it does not make us holy.

It is okay Marty. I am confident God loves the Catholics, and me also.
Since I have received blessings from God great and small. Thank you Lord.

I don't demonize the faith of others. God judges all of us.
And I don't h**e you, God asks us to love one another.
That is his Commandment. And I follow that.

Peace be with you!

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Mar 22, 2023 18:49:08   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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https://www.saintmarys.edu/files/Second%20Monday.pdf
Luke 1:26-38
So, whose son is Jesus according to you?

That's according to your interpretations. I differ from yours.
Quarrelling about it does not make us holy.

It is okay Marty. I am confident God loves the Catholics, and me also.
Since I have received blessings from God great and small. Thank you Lord.

I don't demonize the faith of others. God judges all of us.
And I don't h**e you, God asks us to love one another.
That is his Commandment. And I follow that.

Peace be with you!
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I’m sure that your sentiments go both ways. But, there’s always a but, and frequently it’s me!
But if a new believer hears that he’s supposed to be praying to Mary for forgiveness of sins, he’s toast!

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Mar 22, 2023 18:50:57   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Ricktloml wrote:
No more than the RC Church. There is no single gospel that is taught throughout any religious organization...gee that might indicate that each individual might just be responsible for study/their own salvation. Not blindly follow ANY mere man


Really? You claim that no single Gospel that' is the t***h is taught throughout any religious organization - commonly called the Church. That says Christ failed, God failed. Or is " a little bit of T***h" sufficient for salvation? And to pile on the absurdity, you'd eliminate the means of salvation that Christ established, thru His Church, and leave it up to each individual to work out their salvation without a credible spiritual guide.

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Mar 22, 2023 18:55:20   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
padremike wrote:
Really? You claim that no single Gospel that' is the t***h is taught throughout any religious organization - commonly called the Church. That says Christ failed, God failed. Or is " a little bit of T***h" sufficient for salvation? And to pile on the absurdity, you'd eliminate the means of salvation that Christ established, thru His Church, and leave it up to each individual to work out their salvation without a credible spiritual guide.

Don’t forget that Abraham was saved by faith through grace. Not church! Enoch walked with God, not the presbytery!
We confess our sins to the HS, not a priest!
In fact Hebrews 10:20 did away with the need for an intercessor, to be able to talk directly to God!
However, I’m not touching the gospel part! No way!

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Mar 22, 2023 19:33:45   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I’m sure that your sentiments go both ways. But, there’s always a but, and frequently it’s me!
But if a new believer hears that he’s supposed to be praying to Mary for forgiveness of sins, he’s toast!

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Wrong interpretations. We don't pray to Virgin Mary as God. We pray for her intercession because she is the mother of God.

So many Evangelical Pastors and E.g. Benny Hinn pray to heal. Then he collects millions of dollars for this ministry. That I don't believe. But that is not my business.

I believe in Mary's intercession. We all pray for each other to God for guidance and forgiveness. I don't care if you don't believe in the Virgin mother. I do, and I love her as the mother of Christ. Thank you Lord.

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Mar 22, 2023 19:34:48   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Don’t forget that Abraham was saved by faith through grace. Not church! Enoch walked with God, not the presbytery!
We confess our sins to the HS, not a priest!
In fact Hebrews 10:20 did away with the need for an intercessor, to be able to talk directly to God!
However, I’m not touching the gospel part! No way!

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I won't interfere with your faith. Do what you want!

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Mar 22, 2023 19:58:02   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I’m sure that your sentiments go both ways. But, there’s always a but, and frequently it’s me!
But if a new believer hears that he’s supposed to be praying to Mary for forgiveness of sins, he’s toast!


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We don't pray to the Virgin Mother for the forgiveness of sins. God forgives the sins. We pray to Mary for the intercession to help us. I have received lots of those.

First, we pray the Our Father Who Art in Heaven.
Then I pray the Hail Mary.
This is our prayer to the Virgin Mother of God.
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. "

If you despise this prayer, it is up to you. But I love this prayer. And I am blessed by the Lord. Thank you Lord for your love .

Still the Lord says, love one another as I love you!

My Catholic faith taught me lots of virtues, and the love for one another. I am grateful for all of those.

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Mar 22, 2023 19:59:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Don’t forget that Abraham was saved by faith through grace. Not church! Enoch walked with God, not the presbytery!
We confess our sins to the HS, not a priest!
In fact Hebrews 10:20 did away with the need for an intercessor, to be able to talk directly to God!
However, I’m not touching the gospel part! No way!


Christ had not established His Church in the OT. So don't use the authority of the OT to justify the NT. Use the NT to justify and verify the OT.

You may confess your sins to the Holy Spirit yet Christ is the only mediator, He alone will judge you and forgive your sins. He alone paid the price for our sins. Furthermore, you want Him and only Him to sit in judgment of you because He was fully man & fully God and as such knows the trials and temptation we face every day as mere mortals. Not to be overlooked is the authority He gave to the clergy of His Apostolic Church to forgive sins in his name, applicable to both heaven & here on earth. Also given is the authority to deny forgiveness if a penitent is found to not be sincere. Shocked? It's all found in scripture. Also found in scripture is when the clergy are called for the anointing of the sick (Holy Unction) the sick person's sins are remitted with the anointing & prayers of the clergy. Now tell me honestly, did you know this is all found in Holy Scripture?

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Mar 22, 2023 20:07:07   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
padremike wrote:
Christ had not established His Church in the OT. So don't use the authority of the OT to justify the NT. Use the NT to justify and verify the OT.

You may confess your sins to the Holy Spirit yet Christ is the only mediator, He alone will judge you and forgive your sins. He alone paid the price for our sins. Furthermore, you want Him and only Him to sit in judgment of you because He was fully man & fully God and as such knows the trials and temptation we face every day as mere mortals. Not to be overlooked is the authority He gave to the clergy of His Apostolic Church to forgive sins in his name, applicable to both heaven & here on earth. Also given is the authority to deny forgiveness if a penitent is found to not be sincere. Shocked? It's all found in scripture. Also found in scripture is when the clergy are called for the anointing of the sick (Holy Unction) the sick person's sins are remitted with the anointing & prayers of the clergy. Now tell me honestly, did you know this is all found in Holy Scripture?
Christ had not established His Church in the OT. ... (show quote)

Nope and I don’t buy it!
You’re taking liberties with the scriptures and that can be costly!
Here’s one reply:
https://www.gotquestions.org/confession-sin-priest.html
Only God can forgive sins in the context of its wage which is death.

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Mar 22, 2023 20:31:48   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Nope and I don’t buy it!
You’re taking liberties with the scriptures and that can be costly!
Here’s one reply:
https://www.gotquestions.org/confession-sin-priest.html
Only God can forgive sins in the context of its wage which is death.


That article is wrong. To begin with we read plainly the scriptual requirements for choosing Bishops, priest and Deacons in Christ's Apostolic Church which stood for 1500 years before Protestantism and continues unbroken to this very day. The extant ancient history of the Christian Church stands firmly in opposition to your article. We can engage in continued disagreement but it serves no purpose. So, what's the point? It's precisely this sort of crap that divides Christians when we'd better stand united against sin the world & Satan.

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Mar 22, 2023 20:50:32   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
padremike wrote:
That article is wrong. To begin with we read plainly the scriptual requirements for choosing Bishops, priest and Deacons in Christ's Apostolic Church which stood for 1500 years before Protestantism and continues unbroken to this very day. The extant ancient history of the Christian Church stands firmly in opposition to your article. We can engage in continued disagreement but it serves no purpose. So, what's the point? It's precisely this sort of crap that divides Christians when we'd better stand united against sin the world & Satan.
That article is wrong. To begin with we read plai... (show quote)

Good point!
See you tomorrow sir!

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Mar 23, 2023 00:09:47   #
Radiance3
 
padremike wrote:
That article is wrong. To begin with we read plainly the scriptual requirements for choosing Bishops, priest and Deacons in Christ's Apostolic Church which stood for 1500 years before Protestantism and continues unbroken to this very day. The extant ancient history of the Christian Church stands firmly in opposition to your article. We can engage in continued disagreement but it serves no purpose. So, what's the point? It's precisely this sort of crap that divides Christians when we'd better stand united against sin the world & Satan.
That article is wrong. To begin with we read plai... (show quote)

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Mar 23, 2023 00:53:28   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I thought you only read your bible.

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Mar 23, 2023 01:37:02   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I thought you only read your bible.


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Same Bible except Catholic has 7 more in the OT.
The Catholic Bible is composed of 73 books: an Old Testament of 46 books (including 7 deuterocanonical books and additional deuterocanonical content in 2 books) and a New Testament of 27 books.

The OT of the Protestant is 39 books. NT is same as Catholic 27 books.

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Mar 23, 2023 06:59:15   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I partially understand your seeming lack of knowledge of how badly Roman Catholic teaching actually contradicts and even defies God's written word, the Bible.

However, the Apostle Peter wouldn't step foot in the Vatican. The ruling of the hierarchy of Roman Catholicism has long denied and forbidden the laymen who are RCC members the God-given freedom to investigate Scripture for themselves as the Bereans were praised for doing.

Acts 17:1 "When they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a Jewish synagogue. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

In contradiction to that Scripture:

"The Catechism of the Catholic Church - Paragraph # 100: The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him."

The Roman Catholic Church has ruled that when it comes to faith, morals, and doctrine, Catholics and Christians in general are not allowed to interpret Scripture in contradiction to how the Roman Catholic Church interprets it.

This means there is no way for obedient Catholics to know whether the Roman Catholic Church is false because they are obligated to never contradict the Roman Catholic Church when examining Scripture. They must submit to wh**ever it says is proper biblical interpretation. This means the Catholic must yield to any and all official teachings that his church proclaims in the areas of faith, morals, and doctrine.

(Trent, Session 4, “Decree Concerning the Edition, and the Use, of the Sacred Books”):
” . . . no one, relying on his own sk**l, shall,– in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine,– wresting the sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which holy mother Church,– whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy Scriptures,– hath held and doth hold,”


Radiance3 wrote:
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The Catholic Church is not going down the drain. the Vatican Cardinals are trying to oust him. Or the Pope resigns. But he is supported by Barack to stay. How long, this C*******t Pope stay? Hope it is shorter. But this will take a little while.

Please don't jump and condemn the whole Catholic Church without knowing the facts going on. Jesus knows what is going on. We majority of the Catholics don't want Pope Francis! What he is doing is not Catholic, not according to what Jesus asked Saint Peter to teach the people of God.

Jesus blesses Peter’s confession, “for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven” (Matt. 16:17). God’s revelation gives Peter “holy joy.”5 Jesus continues, “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18). Jesus will build his church on Peter’s confession.

Saint Peter at the Vatican will continue, and rid of this Pope of Barack Obama.
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