Haski123

Reference my post on Time for a Love Revolution. Americans have always had p***e in our Democratic Republic. The basis is free speech, each eligible v**ers ability to v**e for their representatives in Govt.(local, state & federal- congressman, President & VP). Making v****g easily, accessible, yet controlled and auditable so it represents the v**ers accurately is a key government fundamental responsibility-this was demonstrated in 2020 until conspiracy theory’s tried to undermine e******n integrity without any signify t facts to support conspiracies combined with first candidate in approximately 200 years to not support peaceful t******r of p***r-extended refusal to accept facts/court rulings by continuing unfounded conspiracy theory support. We need to have faith in our elected officials that they will continue to embrace needs of the people( not be influenced by big money, PACs , paid lobbyists-rules to give t***sparency to sources and amounts donated to these big money interests need to be reinstated so majority v**ers not special interests v**e and influence elected official’s especially at Federal level) their constituents. Official can provide sincerity and hope for our democracy and citizens. Discard h**eful speech, fear mongering, anger and replace with civil listening and cooperation and what’s best for citizens. Replace confusion and conspiracy theories with action based on facts vs opinions, miss information, and “alternate facts”. Use facts to disarm conspiracies. News agencies need to police there own more with actions to insure freedom of speech but clearly separate and ID facts from opinions. Then we can start to trust elected officials, support bi partisan legislation, trust media( f**e news is a facist tactic to control narrative and spread distrust) and tolerate( not necessarily agree) those with differing views. If we all embrace respect for each other, faith that most people( especially those the people elect) are good, we can sustain this great democratic nation and bring back the p***e, inspiration and hope that this experiment in democracy will continue long into the future. America truely is the best country in the world to live in . Each of us can contribute to keeping it the best! We need to start these changes now to correct the decades of fear mongering, h**e, corruption and doubt and v**e those out that use these techniques to fire up their constituents to violence.

LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)

Thankyou for a very good post. It should giveALL of us time things to think about.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Excellent post .
I think we need to start with breaking down the Wall of Lies the right is fed every day.

LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)

Where should we start? My concern is finding reliable sources that support the ideas for things that need to be addressed. Since the Conservatives here see the sources provided by the Liberals are f**e news, Extreme L*****t bias etc. By the same token the Left/Liberals see sources from the right as the same. F**e news, bias...etc. I have Never seen Fox as a news outlet but an entertainment outlet. I still see MSNBC, CNN, and the three commercial non cable networks as still being more reliable for news than OAN or NewsMax.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

More obvious now than it ever was .

Haski123

. I’ve attached two charts that have been analyzing media bias for use. All have some level of bias but clearly you can see most reliable and least bias sources. Add government tracking data bases and these can be used to demonstrate “ non f**e” news. Obviously opinion portions of main stream media are usually highly bias and require further research before believing, accepting and or forwarding. Hope this helps. Far right and left will still take issue with source regardless who it is if source states something contrary to their opinion or belief. Their right to do so.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You have a dream.
You dream of a love revolution and cloak it with prejudices,
you dream of a perfect world and color it with liberalism,
you provide a laundry list of what you think must be done,
but offer no ideas, proposals or solutions on how your dream can be realized.

I have news for you, pal, creating Utopia is an impossible dream.

Here is an excerpt from Byron Sunderland’s introduction to Benjamin Morris’ magnum opus titled,
“The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States”.

. . . While every period has exhibited the signs of public degeneracy, none in our history presents more fearful proofs of the impiety and obduracy of great masses of people. We have abandoned, in great measure, the faith and the practice of our ancestors, in putting aside from their lawful supremacy the Christian ordinances and doctrines. The natural result is, that we have corrupted our ways in all circles of society and in all pursuits of life. We have become as a field rank with the growth of all vices and heaped with the pollution of mighty crimes.

The rigid training of former times through family government, discipline, and instruction has been greatly relaxed, if not in many cases wholly neglected. Indeed, there are multitudes of parents in the land who from physical and moral causes are totally unfit to have the care of children to whom they have given birth: so that a generation of human beings is growing up in one of the most favored regions of the globe, whose pr********n for the responsibilities of their age and mission has been sadly at fault, and whose precocity in levity, mischief, and insubordination already equals the vitiating examples that are set before them.. The education of the nation is going forward with rapid strides, but it is in a lamentable degree under the auspices of immorality and irreligion, alike in the high and low places of the community.

The unblushing venality and brazen wickedness of a large portion of the conductors of the public press and of the public men of the country have strongly tended to demoralize the nation, to undermine the foundations and destroy the influence of Christian discipline, and to turn the mind and heart of many to infidelity and licentiousness. The same baleful spirit has moved upon the fountains of human learning and science, and so secularized the philosophy of the times as to have set the high faculty of human reason at variance with the sacred majesty of religion, and to have plunged thousands upon thousands of our young men and women into a sea of splendid sophistry and subtlety and all the ruinous speculation of a proud but vain imagination.

Meanwhile, from the hearts of multitudes the dignity of honest labor and the dictates of a sober and frugal economy have died out, on the one hand increasing pauperism and crime and lending to misfortune the aggravation of human improvidence, and the other fostering habits of false show, and thus increasing the temptation to deception, fraud, peculation, and all the dishonesties of the most high-pampered extravagance and excess. Moreover, the wanton neglect or abuse of our providential blessings, and the unconscious apostasy from from every sentiment of purity and virtue, have served greatly to defile and degrade the mind of a large portion of the community, and ill the centers of population with a low and vulgar herd, who throng the open temples of obscenity and infamy. Thus the materials are prepared for human guilt and wretchedness, whose catalogue of crimes and woes exhausts the power of language to express them.

Beyond all this, political controversy and partisan strife for the reins and spoils of power, conducted without principle, and reeking with abuse, have taken so fierce a form as often to have driven the best men from the arena and left the worst upon the field. The selfish and the profligate stand forward to control the nominations and e******ns to office, and afterwards gamble with its duties and obligations without shame and without remorse.

Reverend Morris began compiling the materials for his book in 1857.
Sunderland wrote his introduction in Washington DC on April 14, 1863
The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States was published in 1864.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

1857 -1864
??????!!!!!
What exactly was the character of
Civil Institutions in that Day and Age.?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

We should Padlock the doors on all in the bright red R column.
Set up new guidelines for their parameters.
How long could a teacher be expected to put up with 3 or 4 little johnnys screaming
Obscenities from the back of the room, while they are trying to teach ?????
Thus is who the Teapublitaryans have morphed into .
A party of little johnnys .
Or MTGs , Jim Jordan’s , Kevin McCarthys ,
Boebberts , all little Johnny’s , only there for the attention they never got at home.
Making sure nothing gets done .
For what ??????
That’s a puzzler .
Every time they get what they want ,
They , in turn , want something else.
Keeping the ball rolling on nothing getting done.

Haski123

Thanks for your response and opinion, If you read my note there were clearly ideas for change, obviously not the total solution but a start. Where are your examples to improve the current polarised, name calling, Mud slinging environment we are currently in. 1857 Reverend Morris states his observations at the time, do you feel that it totally applies to today and is the solution or path?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Enroll in a remedial reading course, then read:

The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
Benjamin Franklin Morris' book has been out of print for over 100 years. If you can find an original copy, it's only because you have looked in the deep recesses of university libraries where the volume is likely collecting dust on dimly lit library shelves. Organizations like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State have done their best to ignore the content of the massive compilation of original source material found in this book. If Americans ever become aware of the facts assembled by the author in this historic encyclopedia of knowledge, arguments for a secular founding of America will turn to dust. Don't miss out on the fantastic wealth of information this 1000+ page book has in store. Your children and grandchildren are not being taught the t***h of history in public school, and this book will correct that travesty! Christian Life and Character could very well be responsible for the rediscovering of the t***h of America's foundation in Christianity. This book should be the cornerstone of any personal, professional, church or school library.

Haski123

Blade Runner, I read your Morris reference , while overall philosophy and observations are enlightening, how do you relate it to actions we need to take today, so maybe I need remedial reading courses as well. Your remedial reading course statement I feel is an uncalled for, non necessary comment- slam that does not forward civil discussion. Basically calling someone you don’t even know illiterate.

Rose42

You’re a zealot and zealots only see what they want to see which is not t***h

Sorry to burst your bubble but we are lied to by both sides. Until people realize that neither party is working for us nothing will change.

Rose42

And the democrats fix nothing when they have the chance.

People like you are part of this country’s problem and it has nothing to do with you being a democrat.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, you presented a lot of ideas for change, but you failed to provide any ideas on how those changes could be made.

How do you change a person's core beliefs? By force?
How do you change a person's political affiliation? By threats and intimidation?
How do you change a r****t's hatred to love?
How do you inspire the media to embrace the ethical standards of professional journalism?

You say "We need to have faith in our elected officials".
Why? The problems we face transcend politics, they defy a political solution, they cannot be legislated out of existence.

So, who should we trust? In whom should we place our faith?

It is better to trust in the Lord, than to put confidence in man.
Psalm 118:8