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Mar 7, 2023 11:38:14   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.

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Mar 7, 2023 11:42:54   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)



Ramblings of a delusional mind

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Mar 7, 2023 11:55:52   #
EmilyD
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)


Watch the videos that are coming out with Tucker....so far we've seen that officer Sicknick, who the media AND the committee claimed was hit over the head and k**led at the Capitol, was walking around the Capitol inside escorting people down the hall towards the Senate chambers AFTER he was supposed to be dead. He died the next day of natural causes.

Next we see the "Shaman Man" being escorted down the hall and right to the door of the Senate chambers - so he would know where they were. Also, he walked by no less than NINE C*****l p****e who ignored him, didn't cuff him and did't arrest him the whole time he was walking around looking for the right room.

I wonder which video will be next?

Here's one question I have...why are the C*****l p****e so lax with these hundreds of people calmly wandering through the building taking snaps of the pictures on the wall and the statues - like tourists. The cops just stand around watching them, encouraging them. Who told them to stand down like that???

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Mar 7, 2023 12:15:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)


If you actually examined the evidence and did due diligence, you would probably be far less Liberal.

A word about the 2020 e******n. You DO realize that the E*******l College determines the winner, correct? You DO realize that Biden won five tossup states and their E*******l v**es by a little over 40,000 v**es spread over five states? That is the real margin of victory. Fewer than 10,000 v**es per state out of millions cast.
Here in GA, much was made of the GA Sec/State Ratburger (oops! I meant Raffensperger) deleting about 100,000 names of ineligible v**ers from the rolls. The usual suspects conveniently forgot to mention he did this AFTER January of 2021.

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Mar 7, 2023 12:20:48   #
okie don
 
They are finally showing the videos on TV.
The Democrats lied, as usual,about the
" i**********n".
This was a "protest" , not " i**********n".
No weapons were found. The Shaman ex Navy American citizen was led around by the C*****l p****e. The cop that passed away the following day died of a heart attack not being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.
The lies of Peeloosely and Chaney are all bold face lies.
This is our current leadership in DC.
An embarrassment.

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Mar 7, 2023 13:17:50   #
WEBCO
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)


Last two sentences are your opinion, and demonstrativly wrong. What you believe about Trump is actually true of the Democratic Party

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Mar 7, 2023 13:32:24   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
EmilyD wrote:
Watch the videos that are coming out with Tucker....so far we've seen that officer Sicknick, who the media AND the committee claimed was hit over the head and k**led at the Capitol, was walking around the Capitol inside escorting people down the hall towards the Senate chambers AFTER he was supposed to be dead. He died the next day of natural causes.

Next we see the "Shaman Man" being escorted down the hall and right to the door of the Senate chambers - so he would know where they were. Also, he walked by no less than NINE C*****l p****e who ignored him, didn't cuff him and did't arrest him the whole time he was walking around looking for the right room.

I wonder which video will be next?

Here's one question I have...why are the C*****l p****e so lax with these hundreds of people calmly wandering through the building taking snaps of the pictures on the wall and the statues - like tourists. The cops just stand around watching them, encouraging them. Who told them to stand down like that???
Watch the videos that are coming out with Tucker..... (show quote)


Emily, The C*****l p****e had many, many less people than the invaders. Trump watched the invasion for a few hours, and never called on any other police to help. Lots of C*****l p****e were injured in this " peaceful " walk through the Capitol.
I don't think that your post is what actually happened. If you are watching the

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Mar 7, 2023 13:34:02   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Ramblings of a delusional mind


nonalien, It's so easy to post insults and stupid remarks, but so difficult to make a reasonable argument when none exist.

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Mar 7, 2023 13:38:21   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)


Your first paragraph was correct. Then, you went off the rails.

Curious, in the larger perspective, what do you think an average "conservative" is or what policies do you think an average "conservative" supports?

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Mar 7, 2023 13:39:01   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
If you actually examined the evidence and did due diligence, you would probably be far less Liberal.

A word about the 2020 e******n. You DO realize that the E*******l College determines the winner, correct? You DO realize that Biden won five tossup states and their E*******l v**es by a little over 40,000 v**es spread over five states? That is the real margin of victory. Fewer than 10,000 v**es per state out of millions cast.
Here in GA, much was made of the GA Sec/State Ratburger (oops! I meant Raffensperger) deleting about 100,000 names of ineligible v**ers from the rolls. The usual suspects conveniently forgot to mention he did this AFTER January of 2021.
If you actually examined the evidence and did due ... (show quote)


Smedley, I can't help but notice that eighty courts threw out Trumps cases out of court, for not showing any evidence. Many Republican e******n officials said that it was the fairest in US history. It's high time that the MAGAs stop supporting this loser and s*******s i**********nist, and back a respectable Republican for POTUS.

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Mar 7, 2023 13:42:09   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)


***It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest.
>>>That is a lie.
*** It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
>>>It wasn't. That also is a lie

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Mar 7, 2023 13:46:04   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
nonalien, It's so easy to post insults and stupid remarks, but so difficult to make a reasonable argument when none exist.


***but so difficult to make a reasonable argument when none exist.
>>>But you keep trying.

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Mar 7, 2023 13:53:48   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
okie don wrote:
They are finally showing the videos on TV.
The Democrats lied, as usual,about the
" i**********n".
This was a "protest" , not " i**********n".
No weapons were found. The Shaman ex Navy American citizen was led around by the C*****l p****e. The cop that passed away the following day died of a heart attack not being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.
The lies of Peeloosely and Chaney are all bold face lies.
This is our current leadership in DC.
An embarrassment.
They are finally showing the videos on TV. br The ... (show quote)


okie don, I assume that you are talking about the tapes that were handed over to Fox commentators. That was no protest, it was a s*******s i**********n, organized, managed by, and fully supported by Trump. I saw it in real time, and listened to the Jan Sixth Committee witnesses.

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Mar 7, 2023 14:02:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance of the conservative movement in our political system. When the Democrats go too far to the left, the American people v**e for Republicans and vice versa. It is a built in safety measure. They are two sides of the same coin.
Having recognized this important t***h, I do not consider former President Trump conservative. I think that this person doesn't give a damn about the conservative movement, only his own power and money. As anybody that has read my posts knows, I truly believe that he is a sociopath, criminal and, f*****t. The t***h is out there for all to see.
I do watch Fox News on rare occasions, and know that they rarely if ever write the t***h. I wasn't shocked when it was revealed that Fox commentators didn't believe that T***p w*n the P**********l e******n. Lets all never forget that Fox News is the opinion of one man, Rudolph Murdoch. Paul Simon wrote in his song, The Boxer that a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest. He has admitted this, and said that it's all about money. He was afraid of losing his watchers to other even more far right media sources.
It is also true that many of the extreme far right committed s******n, and i**********n at Trump's behest. It is also true that Trump tried to overturn what many Republican state officials called the fairest and most secure P**********l e******n in U.S. history.
While I am a liberal, I recognize the importance o... (show quote)

Salt, worry not what others write. Rest assured that many (over 81 million U.S. citizens) stand with you.

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Mar 7, 2023 14:05:15   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
okie don, I assume that you are talking about the tapes that were handed over to Fox commentators. That was no protest, it was a s*******s i**********n, organized, managed by, and fully supported by Trump. I saw it in real time, and listened to the Jan Sixth Committee witnesses.


The witnesses were all republicans.
Sworn in to tell the t***h.
Everyone involved was Republican.
Ratting each other out for bit of their own safety and comfort.
All your pals.
Are the witnesses lying ?
We’re they really just there for
tea and crumpets ?

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