Immigration on the left, bigotry on the right (Page 7): I noticed you didn't seem offended by what Jon Stewart did...

VladimirPee

I noticed you didn't seem offended by what Jon Stewart did

Anigav6969 wrote:

Obsess much ?

VladimirPee

I found the post about white birth rates. Did you actually read the post I was responding to where Straighup seems to blame Christians and Republicans for out of control birth rates due to their religious beliefs when in fact white birth rates are down across the board. The increases are coming from those who are not closely aligned with the Religious Right. I am sure this is not too difficult for you to grasp

Anigav6969 wrote:

Yes...you are king ! Of what ? Who knows ........w... (show quote)

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DennisDee wrote:

I found the post about white birth rates. Did you actually read the post I was responding to where Straighup seems to blame Christians and Republicans for out of control birth rates due to their religious beliefs when in fact white birth rates are down across the board. The increases are coming from those who are not closely aligned with the Religious Right. I am sure this is not too difficult for you to grasp

I promise I'll look that up later....if you are right, you're right...I have no problem in saying so

Anigav6969

DennisDee wrote:

I noticed you didn't seem offended by what Jon Stewart did

It doesn't look like he did anything....I guess he was pointing out what someone else did...I can't really even tell what that is.......I will say this....you certainly couldn't offend the muslim religion like that.....without expecting death threats..

I don't watch Jon Stewart much, but I do find him pretty funny

VladimirPee

He showed a photo of the nativity in front of a Vagina

Anigav6969 wrote:

It doesn't look like he did anything....I guess he was pointing out what someone else did...I can't really even tell what that is.......I will say this....you certainly couldn't offend the muslim religion like that.....without expecting death threats..

I don't watch Jon Stewart much, but I do find him pretty funny

Anigav6969

DennisDee wrote:

I found the post about white birth rates. Did you actually read the post I was responding to where Straighup seems to blame Christians and Republicans for out of control birth rates due to their religious beliefs when in fact white birth rates are down across the board. The increases are coming from those who are not closely aligned with the Religious Right. I am sure this is not too difficult for you to grasp

So I checked.....I didn't see it the same as you....he quoted the birth rate in America....you brought up Latinos , which is irrelevant

He did say, maybe the republicans should change their views on family planning......you even said.." It seems " like you're blaming the religious right...I didn't see that

Anyway, I actually enjoy reading the posts between you and straightup ....I'm biased of course because he basically has the same views as me, and I feel he communicates them very well...better than I can....most people on here can't hang with him at all in my opinion...you do better than most...but like I said, I'm biased, that's why there is no such thing on here as a fair debate

Anigav6969

DennisDee wrote:

He showed a photo of the nativity in front of a Vagina

Oh...ok......what did he say ? Is that inherently offensive ? It's hard for me to say....I don't find vaginas offensive

VladimirPee

Destabilize? You mean peaceful protest?

How about ignoring existing i*********n l*w like Obama is doing?

robert66 wrote:

When you are attempting to destabilize the government you are a d******c t*******t. You don't have to be planting bombs or mailing anthrax.

VladimirPee

You need to think a little bit more about his post. He is speaking of abstinence. Which is more of a religious right position than a GOP position. Even that claiming the GOP is responsible for rising birth rate is ridiculous since and not based in fact. Straightup usually makes up his own facts or tosses out talking points. You actually present better arguments.

"So if you want to curb the population maybe a better bet would be to change the Republican positions on family planning. I think conservative parents should know that if they're stupid enough to think abstinence is the solution, then chances are their children will be too stupid to actually stick with it. As the song goes, "only stupid people are breeding". Perhaps an exaggeration but there's certainly an underlying t***h to that. "

Anigav6969 wrote:

So I checked.....I didn't see it the same as you..... (show quote)

Anigav6969

DennisDee wrote:

You need to think a little bit more about his post... (show quote)

Yes, that paragraph doesn't represent the people having the majority of the children in my opinion....I don't have stats to prove that, but it's a fair point that you make...if the Republican Party changed its position on family planning tomorrow , I doubt Latinos would be having less children...so, point taken

I do like the way straightup writes...I'm always impressed by people who are well written , on both sides....it doesn't seem to matter though....have you seen anyone on either side change their mind on anything substantial ? I haven't ....it makes me wonder, why we are here for this....personally, I think there are more people on the right than the left, that are just here to vent....you, at least argue the points.....do you agree ?

VladimirPee

Sometimes it is not about changing minds more than correcting falsehoods like the ones posted by Straightup which are numerous. I don't find his comments are well thought out.

Anigav6969 wrote:

Yes, that paragraph doesn't represent the people h... (show quote)

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DennisDee wrote:

Sometimes it is not about changing minds more than correcting falsehoods like the ones posted by Straightup which are numerous. I don't find his comments are well thought out.

I thought the one you corrected was just one point he made....out of many....I thought most of his points were good ones.....that being said, do you see some of these threads ? Some of these people are just ranting, and they take over the thread....it gets ridiculous

VladimirPee

I can go back and rip apart all of his claims if you wish but he seems to be gone from OPP so its not fair

Anigav6969 wrote:

I thought the one you corrected was just one point he made....out of many....I thought most of his points were good ones.....that being said, do you see some of these threads ? Some of these people are just ranting, and they take over the thread....it gets ridiculous

straightUp Loc: California

DennisDee wrote:

I can go back and rip apart all of his claims if you wish but he seems to be gone from OPP so its not fair

Try it. I'm right here, big talker. I have a lot to today in the real world (we can't all sit around sucking up welfare and doing OPP all day). But I'll be checking in.

VladimirPee

Ah welcome back. Sucking up welfare? Your program not mine

straightUp wrote:

Try it. I'm right here, big talker. I have a lot to today in the real world (we can't all sit around sucking up Welfare and doing OOP all day). But I'll be checking in.