ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

India is a huge market for v*****e manufacturers. So why would a profit driven company forgo such a large profit opportunity? Two Reasons:


https://rumble.com/v28pb44-why-did-p****r-never-sell-its-m**a-product-in-india.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=2

pegw

Rumble is a very far right wing with a low degree of reliability. I searched for "did P****r sell m**A v*****es to India" and I got a Reiters article on how India felt that they would be able to protect their ciizens with v*****es made in India. Nothing nefarious here..

pegw

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4522chief

Nice try but with what has come out about the problems with the UNTESTED v*****e I think India saw the handwriting on the wall.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

Your missing the point. P****r required immunity against any harm their v**x did to people. They got that immunity here because 2 years out the evidence is mounting on the harm their v**x could do to people and they literally will not be held accountable. And what's more egregious is their still pushing a v**x that doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it or keep you from dying. That is the definition of fraud.

guzzimaestro

And yet, they are still pushing this poison on the people

4522chief

Anything to make a buck and the sock puppet in the White House is still pushing it.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Keep your eye on Thailand. They may be the first country to invalidate the liability shield based upon fraud.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

They used ivermectin

guzzimaestro

So did Africa, which why their infection rates are so low

ksaves

Ivermectin is a drug not a v*****e. Yeah I know the controversy surrounding it's use but if I was sick with the C****-** v***s back then, I'd give it a shot. I have too many reports from compatriots who practiced medicine who saw positive effects until the "gubbermint" took that option off the table.

Now there are many I.V. drugs to treat C****-** for hospitalized patients though nothing specifically for out-patient oral use I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Besides v*****es but that is supposed to be pre-emptive.)

Before I retired MD'ing from medicine, my associates would see potential C***d patients that came through the E.R. to protect me as I was an older guy, even when I was on call so I could make it to retirement. It was very early on in the epidemic and all of the patients back then didn't have C***d yet by testing in our small town. They were sick but didn't have C***d at the time. I'm eternally grateful for that gesture.

I was retired 6 months and the rural hospital was jammed during the December after I left with folks on respirators dying right and left of C****-** (before v*****es mind you). Man that would of been a big stress for me as I stressed out with COPD'ers and folks with c****ary artery disease when I was on duty, oncall in the "older" days. I had a long medical residency and could handle ventilators but I was told by my associates it was good for me to be retired before the onslaught of C***D. I didn't retire out of fear, I left because I was older and didn't have the stamina to keep up operating 36 to 48 hours awake anymore. Plus I'm a widower and had to take care of a mentally handicapped son I have guardianship of. On one hand, I'm glad my lovely wife didn't live to see this. On the other hand, I'd probably would have been able to reassure her adequately. If she was still alive I'd tell her to use precautions and she'd be o.k. with it. I'd rather my wife still be alive mind you. We had our ups and downs but she was the best thing that happened to me. At least I was able to tell her that on her death bed.

The impression I have is if a person has a v*****e specific for C****-** and gets C****-**, they don't progress as often to a terminal death. Sure, if one has bad heart disease, COPD and the other big kicker is obesity, they are at higher risk of death no matter immunized or not.

My sources told me that obesity was a really big gigantic risk factor for death from C****-**. Could be a "healthy" obese person and still succumb to the disease if they got it more so than someone who was of lean body mass.

The other thing is if there are issues with the current v*****es. The makers ARE going to try to refine them and improve the immunogenicity and try to decrease side effects. (ie. That means make them more effective with less side effects.)

I remember some years ago in the 90's, some parents in a southern part of this "Illinois" county I live in, didn't get their kids immunized with the standard DPT v*****e. Kids that didn't get the appropriate immunizations started a mini Diptheria epidemic. With modern antibiotics they were treated as out-patients and recovered without issue.

Diptheria, Pertussis and Tetanus. Diptheria can cause a pseudo-membrane to occur in the back of the throat and obstruct the airway resulting in a "k**l" for the bacteria left untreated by asphyxiation. Back prior before the 40's that was common without antibiotics. Perhaps persisting into the 1950's

Before v*****es, that occurred often. Pertussis is whooping cough that can permanently damage lungs/heart and handicap a person for life. I took care of adult survivors of that in the early to late 80's when I was a practicing primary care physician. Back in the day when these folks were kids, there were no v*****es for the problem and I didn't hold it against them.

I think the survivors are all dead by now. Well I suspect most know tetanus can k**l. Look at this site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus for details. All these diseases are preventable with reliable v*****es and I received them in the late 50's early 60's. Ahhhhh, I'm still alive as I expect most of you oldsters reading this will attest to.

The C****-** thing? O.k.I felt bad after the third "shot" for a day but I survived. My mentally handicapped son told me it didn't bother him in the least bit. (To paraphrase him.) I remember as I was laying on a couch in the all seasons room at my house aching all over from the third shot. I was retired so no big deal for me.

I was involved with a mass v******tion at the local high school gym, when the Sabin polio v*****e came out in the early to mid 60's. My parents marched us down to the Wheaton Central High School gym to drink the Sabin v*****e in a mass v******tion. They also drank it too.
V*****e was contaminated with monkey SV-40 v***s as I learned in college in the mid 70's but I don't think that was a big deal. I'm still alive!

My mother was terrified of us kids getting polio as she knew the ramifications of the disease back in the 30's, 40's and early 50's and feared having a kid living in an "iron lung". I remember kids walking with crutches when I was in grade school back in the early to late 60's and early 70's. Parents didn't get them immunized or they caught the disease before they could get "shot" or drink the v*****e.

Now the oral v*****e has been out for a looooonggg time and the injectable polio v*****e has been deemed more effective for kids and given as a part of routine immunizations for kids. Once one makes it to adulthood, for some reason that eludes me, polio is not an issue. Comments welcomed on this.

At 66, I'm still alive and happy about it though they tore down my high school years ago and replaced it with a nice grocery store that the midtown needed. The sports fields persist and are still used for little league and what have you.

Kurt Savegnago, M.D. (retired 2.5 years)

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

Low degree of "reliability"? ? ? ? ?

How about "your party" *Demoncrats party of EVIL, & HUMAN A******N, Criminality, Ineptness?

The Pot, Calling the Kettle black?

"Stupid"..... run in your family? Or, did you get all of it?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

I enjoyed reading your post. I appreciated your comment on Ivermectin. We may differ on our view of v*****es, but I can't argue with your medical degree and experience over the years. Best wishes to you and your son.

Borantob

exactly. wtf?

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Thanks for a nice post.