son of witless

You brought up something I wanted to start a topic on, but screw it, I want to continue now since the subject has shifted to the mini topic of experts. Most of us do not have technical expertise to know everything. We must rely on these so called alchemists, magicians, medicine men, witch doctors, etc to tell us amateurs if something is real or f**e. Most of the time these wise men do not agree, so we unwashed are rather royally screwed.

So we look for consensus. If a majority of experts tell us something, they must be right. The big consensus of experts who tell us the " t***h " is on the subject of g****l W*****g. Our little Liberal brothers and sisters scream at us C*****e C****e deniers that the overwhelming consensus of climate experts is that unless we destroy our country by shutting down f****l f**ls and shifting to g***n e****y which does not work, then we are doomed.

Now lets us go back and see how often the experts in the fields that are too complicated for us peons to understand have saved us from impending doom. Now to me Wall Street is a perfect field to compare to C*****e C****e because the average Joe and Jane does not understand Mortgage Backed Securities and Collateralized Debt Obligations anymore than they understand the interactions of wind and ocean currents on the weather.

Now we have technical experts in the government who are supposed to be able to spot danger in the financial markets, plus financial fraud. None of us peons have the experience and education to under stand it, but they allegedly do. Well the various bankruptcies and financial meltdowns of the last 25 years shows that these great financial scientists never see the next disaster coming. The latest of these was FTX Sam Bankman-Fried collapse. The worst one was the 2007-09 real estate and financial market collapse. And who can forget Enron ?

However, all of these did not just have government experts fooled, but also the smartest wizards of wall street missed it too. Now I want to talk about the Bernie Madoff fraud. Everyone believes that Bernie Madoff was an evil genius to fool so many smart people. They figure he had to be. Well he wasn't. Not compared to Sam Bankman-Fried or the Enron guys. What they pulled off was complicated and only extremely smart and technical experts could have understood it enough to foresee it and stop it.

What Bernie pulled off was far less sophisticated and should have been stopped decades earlier. Madoff's empire collapsed because during the 2008 financial crisis money got tight, which is what always k**ls a Ponzi Scheme. Madoff was reported to the SEC in the early 1990s and then several times later before his 2008 collapse. Unlike the FTX and Enron guys Bernie did not have super sophisticated computer software and evil geniuses working with him to fool the government and others. He had some of the most primitive software and Laurel and Hardy types helping him. They made up flimsy paperwork and aged it in comical ways to fool the experts from the SEC.

If the SEC experts had done even the most rudimentary exams of Bernie's operations they would have caught him. They even had private financial experts from Bernie's competitors pleading with them that mathematically Bernie had to be running a Ponzi scheme. None of it mattered to the " Experts " at the SEC. Bernie always bluffed his way through on the strength of his personality.

My point in all of this is that the C*****e C****e experts are no smarter than the SEC experts. They are being bluffed by those with financial stakes in the Climate Crisis. The Climate Crisis experts have made dire predictions for decades that have failed. When numbskulls like John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Al Gore preach G****l W*****g, I think it has to be f**e.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I’m an Investment Advisor. I start every morning watching the various business channels. I listen to the “experts” with a grain of salt. Why? Because most are still in the business. Playing down negative economic numbers protects their jobs. Most economists on these shows differ on everything. Just have to know what the indicators really are.

son of witless

I am a big Jim Cramer cheer leader. A lot of people h**e him and he isn't always right, but even when he is wrong, I learn something.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

He's a joke. He's nothing more than a carnival barker. He is more wrong than correct. However; he is entertaining.

son of witless

Alas, I am the only Jim Cramer fan on OPP. Perhaps to a professional such as yourself who knows the ins and outs of Wall Street he not impressive, but to a financial peon such as me he is a wealth of important information. Granted he missed the 08 collapse, but he called the March 09 bottom.

He also let me know about the fracking revolution in the Bakken Shale formation, years before any other talking head.

Sure he can be wrong, but he sticks his neck out a lot. It took a long time for me to become a fan, and I don't like his politics, but from a news viewpoint he tells me a lot, such as what the business climate is in China. I don't get stuff like that from other places.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Stuart Varney, Fox business. Maria Bartiromo and Charles Payne are excellent forecasters. Remember; all these guys were geniuses from 2010 to 2018. An advisor, IMO, "makes his bones" not in a huge bull market but how well they manage your portfolio on the way down (bear).

pegw

I am on some scientific news source email lists I also read Scientific American every month, and I haven't heard a word about wind farms interfearing with whale's echo location. Please reveal your sources.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Varying opinions so far, but of course, if the politicians on the left and their paid scientists (grants) say the farms aren't to blame you will believe them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-29/endangered-whales-at-risk-from-offshore-wind-us-scientist-warns
https://www.downbeach.com/2023/01/09/six-dead-whales-are-offshore-wind-farms-to-blame/

RickyDCUSMC

You need to understand organic science before you spout stupidity. Wales navigate with sonar and Earth's magnetics. Windmills disrupt sonar and magnetic signals that the wales emit and sense. Oil rigs are stationary and do not disrupt sonar and magnetics. Windmills are already responsible for k*****g millions of fish and predatory birds.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I would not get very excited about and communication problem for the whales.. It is not the first and will not be that last to cause them difficulty..

In the past Submarines, the military world wide communications, part of which was in norther Wisconsin, may have been replaced, satellite communications, even high fi music has been accused and often correctly of harming whales ability to communicate..

What should we do about it?? more research is needed, may be as simply as changing comm bands.. or maybe we just do away wiith all the whales..

What do you thing should be done??

RickyDCUSMC

Perma that's Brilliant!!! Brilliantly stupid!!! Save the planet, but k**l the Wales to do it? Isn't that defeating the purpose? How about "look before you leap"! Marine Biologists already understand Wale and Dolphin communications. (1) We can use different frequencies to map the sea floor. (2) There are alternatives to our unreliable wind power (that does deplete resources and currently is not recyclable). (3) There are alternatives to solar panels (Solar panels DO, by the way deplete natural resources and are currently non recyclable).

There are things like Geothermal (we will never run out of that) and a lot of untapped hydroelectric (for one it's called Ocean waves and currents). Hydrogen Fusion is being developed and since 80% of the atmosphere is Hydrogen I don't think we would deplete that. The world needs to start being honest (I know that is impossible) and stop the made up panic and develop real alternatives to the current status. We are not ever going to alter the climate! As I have said before "we (human population) occupy 10% of the 30% land mass of the 100% of this planet. Volcanic eruptions and Sun Solar flairs are going to primarily effect climate as they have for millions of years.

Humans are like an ant farm on this planet and the CO2, methane and other heat or cold claims are just as stupid. Ask all your "scientist alarmists" if they have ever calculated how much above ground and underwater volcanic eruptions contribute to all gases and heat and they will tell you NO! Why because there is no possible way to do that! There are many underwater volcanoes that we haven't yet discovered. For all you climate alarmists, educate yourself with the real science of the earth (everything that contributes) and you will find that all this climate crap is just that crap, created to control you.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

It is clear Ricky that I misjudged the calber of the target audiance.. My bad.. it was supposed to be satire and I evedently missed the target..

As for your post. some of the things you mention are very good, some very bad.. Volcanoes have been used by the bad side as excuse to do nothing for decades and no matter how many times your are shown how inaccurate that comment is, it keep coming up.. show your smarts and stop using it.. it is false..

Recycling of green materials is treated as if the people involved never thought of them.. wrong as always, that problem and many many other are being worked on and solved as we type..

The population problem is not about how much space each person needs in order to stand on it.. it is about resource, both for people and all the other creatures in the world..

Geothermal, currents, and waves are all in the mix.. Hydrogen should be much more involved that it is, but progress is being made and is one of my favorites.

so, to the people like you who do not want to help.... at least get the hell out of the way..

RickyDCUSMC

Perme, I had hoped a little satire, and I love people like you that have no idea who I am or what I know. I helped develop solar heated pools back in the late 1970s, it was easy, black PVC on the roof attached to metal sheets, regulated with a bypass valve, thermistor and a thermostat. As an engineer I helped develop heat exchangers in the early 1980s. They were developed to create clean intake heated air from dirty exhaust air saving companies millions in natural gas savings. Even before 2010 I worked on systems to use solar, geothermal and glycerol to heat and cool large public facilities. Check out Springs Preserve in Las Vegas Nevada just for one.

Many of the chemicals used to make solar panels are single use, that means one and done. You cannot separate chemicals that have been mixed and heated together. As far as wind turbines the 80 gals of oil is not as of yet recyclable. A company is grinding up the blades and yes burning them like coal to generate steam electricity. The blade movement create a shock wave that k**ls fish. (Proven)

As I said before people like you don't understand and with what you just said to me don't want to learn the t***h. I have a military electronics background and degrees in earth science, civil and mechanical engineering, finished with an MBA. I have worked with PhD Organic Chemists and Volcanologists, very smart people. They know the t***h about volcanic heat and gasses expelled. I had an uncle that was an astrologist who studied sun spots and solar flairs for sixty years! I unfortunately lost him many years ago to cancer. I have designed a home, what I call a "waterfall generator" that will create 220 vac @ 200A and am currently building said for my own home. When I am successful each home could have a generation system that will sustain that home with electrical power off the grid for decades. So the only people who needs to get out of the way are short sided arrogant people like YOU!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You will learn on this site that permafool has no expertise on any subject. He’s nothing but a copy and paste troll. If the idea is woke or progressive he agrees with it. A real dumba**.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Now that you have spent a lot of toner patting yourself on the back, do you have anything to contribute to any discussion or of any material object which can be of help before civilization dies as your side is working on???