This Frigging Baldwin Crap...He Has Zero Responsibility: I know how to handle guns, and wouldn't think of not clearing a gun someone hands me before handling it, we all know that.

woodguru

I know how to handle guns, and wouldn't think of not clearing a gun someone hands me before handling it, we all know that. Baldwin was on a movie set, the guns on that set are 100% the responsibility of the armorer, who's job it is to set the blanks or rounds in the guns used on that set.

If an actor were to try to open a loading port, cylinder, slide, or magazine, the armorer is required by protocol to take the gun back and properly clear it for the scene being filmed.

Baldwin, regardless of what you think of him or his politics, was using a set gun that was 100% the responsibility of the armorer. There are a lot of questions here, but they center on the armorer and why there were live rounds on the set...and why one was in a gun she had cleared and handed to Baldwin.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3819549-alec-baldwin-to-face-involuntary-manslaughter-charges-over-rust-shooting/?email=efe571ef5256093f41ddc38748f117b2e17c959d&emaila=c9f53ef4f79d401cfaf066ddb80ea001&emailb=8253f47e4ed477155249a07be8172fe918415676e024fc1ab4e32ba083861cc0&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Rust%20shooting

Liberty Tree

woodguru wrote:

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When you get to be the D.A. your opinion will matter. If he were not a flaming liberal you would have a different opinion.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

woodguru wrote:

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He literally pointed that gun and pulled the trigger. That by law makes him liable. First thing you learn in gun safety...never point a gun at someone and NEVER have your finger on the trigger. Had they been in the middle of filming and that happened it would be different but he wasn't and accidents happen even with blanks. They should have rendered the trigger useless( still pull but not engage unless safety is off.

Gothredneck Loc: Cousin loving Bama

woodguru wrote:

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Nonsense, Baldwin was well aquainted with firearms and this one was no different ....... Don't care who you are, pull a trigger and you own the consequences of it good or bad.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

keepuphope wrote:

He literally pointed that gun and pulled the trigger. That by law makes him liable. First thing you learn in gun safety...never point a gun at someone and NEVER have your finger on the trigger. Had they been in the middle of filming and that happened it would be different but he wasn't and accidents happen even with blanks. They should have rendered the trigger useless( still pull but not engage unless safety is off.

Throughout the history of the movie industry, the number of times an actor has "pointed a gun" at others and pulled the trigger has to be in the millions.

vernon

woodguru wrote:

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That could all be true but if someone hands me a weapon the first thing I do is check it and make sure the barrel is clear also. I have found weapons handed too me that were supposed to be empty and they were loaded. I never point a weapon at anyone ,its just a stupid thing to do.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

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Wow....you're standing in defense of, and making excuses for a man who broke the first two critical laws of gun safety. Pretty pathetic excuses at that.
Your buddy Alec, and the armorer are BOTH 100% at fault for this, and should do time for it.
It just blows my mind that you would excuse ANYONE dry firing a gun without PERSONALY clearing it first.
Don't talk about guns anymore, dude. You know nothing, and have ZERO credibility.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

woodguru wrote:

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I almost agree with you...
Except I was trained in basic gun safety...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

archie bunker wrote:

Wow....you're standing in defense of, and making excuses for a man who broke the first two critical laws of gun safety. Pretty pathetic excuses at that.
Your buddy Alec, and the armorer are BOTH 100% at fault for this, and should do time for it.
It just blows my mind that you would excuse ANYONE dry firing a gun without PERSONALY clearing it first.
Don't talk about guns anymore, dude. You know nothing, and have ZERO credibility.

Fact

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

woodguru wrote:

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here's the "SIMPLE T***H"!

Regardless of who's responsibility it is to check, & re-check.....: "WHOEVER IS GOING TO *PULL THE TRIGGER....HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF *CHECKING FOR LIVE AMMO!...[ End of story!}

That is 1+1=2 Black & white....[ Moral: if Baldwin, had done that, this person would still be alive! ]

Ricktloml

keepuphope wrote:

He literally pointed that gun and pulled the trigger. That by law makes him liable. First thing you learn in gun safety...never point a gun at someone and NEVER have your finger on the trigger. Had they been in the middle of filming and that happened it would be different but he wasn't and accidents happen even with blanks. They should have rendered the trigger useless( still pull but not engage unless safety is off.

Agreed...I doubt manslaughter will stick...more like negligence, but Baldwin should be held accountable for HIS actions. And usually DAs don't file charges unless there is some proof...otherwise he/she doesn't keep his/her job

Justice101

archie bunker wrote:

Wow....you're standing in defense of, and making excuses for a man who broke the first two critical laws of gun safety. Pretty pathetic excuses at that.
Your buddy Alec, and the armorer are BOTH 100% at fault for this, and should do time for it.
It just blows my mind that you would excuse ANYONE dry firing a gun without PERSONALY clearing it first.
Don't talk about guns anymore, dude. You know nothing, and have ZERO credibility.

Amen to that!

son of witless

woodguru wrote:

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I actually would almost agree with your premise. I have sympathy for Baldwin. It was an accident. He did not intend to have this woman come to harm, and the armorer should have done their job. However, you are leaving out an important fact or even a whole group of facts.

Baldwin was not just some actor who was ignorant of gun safety and relied on an expert. He was a producer on this film project. The film had some serious incidents where crew members walked off the set because of safety issues, before the shooting. Whomever was in charge of production did not take actions to correct the safety issues.

Maybe Baldwin's producer responsibilities absolve him of this tragedy. Maybe they make him more responsible. The trial will bring all of that out. I am not condemning him. I think at this time things are murky.

https://news.yahoo.com/alec-baldwin-credited-producer-rust-004442465.html

maryla

woodguru wrote:

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I heard he will be charged and go to jail!!

Samael

woodguru wrote:

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I agree with you for a change there’s no question you’re correct