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Dec 27, 2022 22:20:46   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.

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Dec 28, 2022 01:39:22   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Zemirah wrote:
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as... (show quote)


Good post. I agree to be cautious of Zalinskey. And question the large amount of cash the U.S. is throwing at Ukraine. For What?

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Dec 28, 2022 02:25:01   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Good post. I agree to be cautious of Zalinskey. And question the large amount of cash the U.S. is throwing at Ukraine. For What?


I agree also, they're never gonna beat the Russians.

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Dec 28, 2022 06:28:07   #
Big dog
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I agree also, they're never gonna beat the Russians.


Amen !

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Dec 28, 2022 08:01:14   #
Gatsby
 
Zemirah wrote:
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as... (show quote)


Personally, I don't give a damn about Putin or Zelensky; I care only for the Ukrainian People,

who are sacrificing their Lives by the thousands, for their Nation and their Freedom. God Help THEM!

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Dec 28, 2022 09:37:09   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Zemirah wrote:
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as... (show quote)


I don't trust Zelensky at all.
Putin is a violent thug.
The USA has no interest other than corrupt Americans...i.e. Biden Crime Family

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Dec 28, 2022 10:11:48   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Good post. I agree to be cautious of Zalinskey. And question the large amount of cash the U.S. is throwing at Ukraine. For What?


December 28, 2022 Analysis: The Billions Sent to Ukraine Could Have Built Seven 450-Mile Border Walls Along the U.S.-Mexico Border, or nearly two border walls covering the entirety of the nearly 2,000-mile border.

However, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), in agreement with Joe Biden, has said the GOP's "number one priority" is aiding Ukraine in its war against Russia.

Since February of 2022, Republicans and Democrats in Congress have now authorized more than $110 billion in American taxpayer money to be sent to Ukraine, in support of the nation’s ongoing war against its neighbor, Russia, which began in 2014.

Meanwhile, most of the nearly 2,000-mile United States-Mexico border remains without any barrier against the two year old invasion we are experiencing from the "refugees" of 150 countries, who are pouring across our open border in full expectation of free housing, food, medical care and a free education for all children at the expense of U.S. taxpayers, as the Biden administration has promised, to entice them to come.

As part of a year-end $1.7 trillion spending package, 18 Senate Republicans and nine House Republicans v**ed with Democrats to throw another $45 billion in taxpayer money at Ukraine — bringing the total amount of taxpayer money sent to Ukraine, authorized by Congress, to more than $110 billion.

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Dec 28, 2022 10:46:08   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Zemirah wrote:
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as... (show quote)


Zemerah,In my view, Zelenskyy is a hero of the first magnitude. He stood up to the Russian invaders of his country, and so far is doing very well. If we continue to support him, he will no doubt whip the Russian military establishment.
What truly amazes me is that Ukraine, has a long history of anti-Semitism. Ukrainian Waffen SS guarded death camps, and were terrible murderers. Compare that history with today. Ukraine has democratically elected Zelenskyy, a Jew to the Presidency of that brave country. The Ukraine has even classified an ancient Torah to be a national treasure.
This turn around in Ukraine gives me hope that r****m can be beaten in every country. The Ukraine deserves to be supported by the West, not only because it is a victim of Russian aggression, but because it serves as an example of real democracy in a dangerous place.

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Dec 28, 2022 12:20:06   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I agree also, they're never gonna beat the Russians.


And that's a Fact Jack!



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Dec 28, 2022 13:41:43   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Zelenskiy is a puppet, just like Biden, they're raking in the $$$$, while the rest suffer.

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Dec 28, 2022 14:02:14   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Gatsby wrote:
Personally, I don't give a damn about Putin or Zelensky; I care only for the Ukrainian People,

who are sacrificing their Lives by the thousands, for their Nation and their Freedom. God Help THEM!


Does that include those ethnic Russian Ukrainians from the Donbas who have fought against the Ukrainians of the west ever since 2014, because of the illegal c**p sponsored by the West?

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Dec 28, 2022 14:08:05   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Zemerah,In my view, Zelenskyy is a hero of the first magnitude. He stood up to the Russian invaders of his country, and so far is doing very well. If we continue to support him, he will no doubt whip the Russian military establishment.
What truly amazes me is that Ukraine, has a long history of anti-Semitism. Ukrainian Waffen SS guarded death camps, and were terrible murderers. Compare that history with today. Ukraine has democratically elected Zelenskyy, a Jew to the Presidency of that brave country. The Ukraine has even classified an ancient Torah to be a national treasure.
This turn around in Ukraine gives me hope that r****m can be beaten in every country. The Ukraine deserves to be supported by the West, not only because it is a victim of Russian aggression, but because it serves as an example of real democracy in a dangerous place.
Zemerah,In my view, Zelenskyy is a hero of the fir... (show quote)


***This turn around in Ukraine gives me hope that r****m can be beaten in every country.
>>>What about his r****m against the Ukrainians of Russian descent living in the Donbas that he was unleashing the N**i Azov battalion to attack and destroy just before Putin moved in? Or are you a selective r****t?

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Dec 28, 2022 14:09:38   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Zemirah wrote:
Common sense tells us that we should not accept as t***h everything we are shown or told on media... Nor should we believe anything national leaders and their spokesmen say they are going to do, until there is verifiable proof they have actually done it.

In modern America, we are all being ask to live under a set of illusions. We see the t***h right in front of us, and we are told to ignore it, not to believe what we know to be accurate, and if we don’t pretend and go along with wh**ever delusions we are being fed, like "the borders are secure," and "there is no recession," then we can expect to be ridiculed, reviled and belittled... to, in other words, suffer the consequences. This imposed pretense, the utter loss of t***h, if we accept it, will destroy us as a free people.

The biggest reason to be skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his legend as a "hero of democracy" is being propped up by corporate media, Democrats, and the behind the scene g*******t powers-that-be. Most of us have learned time and again over the last few years to question everything. If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is.

He has only one thing in his favor: He speaks better English than the President. And the Vice President. And the Speaker of the House,” podcast host Gerry Callahan wrote on Twitter, mocking President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Zelensky dresses better than the slob that Pennsylvanians just sent to the Senate,” Callahan added, referencing Sen.-elect John Fetterman (D-Pa.), one of the New York Times’ “most stylish” people of 2022.

What can we learn from the leadership styles on display for the world by Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin?

Toxic masculinity is a ridiculous and dangerous concept. We love men, real men! All women want and appreciate real men, good men who are strong men, decisive men, men that love women, and are good fathers, men that can cuddle a baby, teach their boys how to do manly things, and to respect girls. Where did those men go?

The war in Ukraine is a historical event that impacts directly on the lives of Ukrainians and Russians, but also on the political geography of Europe and on international politics globally. The war marks the end of a period that could be termed “post-Soviet” in the region and the start of an as yet unnamed but so far tragic period for Europe and Eurasia.

Zelensky went through several stages of popularity. As a decisive winner in the 2019 p**********l e******ns, he united Ukraine’s East and West, city dwellers and rural inhabitants, rich and poor. However, in both January 2021 and January 2022 his approval ratings fell well below 30 percent, as most Ukrainians thought the country was going in the wrong direction.

Under Biden, the US is giving this man another $45 Billion; bringing total U.S. assistance to over $100 billion. - more dollars for a war that can easily go awry and involve us in a nuclear war. Instead of protecting our Southern Border from an escalating invasion, instead of completing the border wall, we’re protecting the Ukraine??

Why, and for whom?

This is an extension of a "financial pass-through" that was already in place. ... the "bribery" that caused Ukraine, China, and others to pay the Biden family millions of dollars, (before Ukraine's war with Russia began, and before Joe Biden was given the U.S. presidency). Now, Biden is simply repaying Ukraine, paying them back, and including "hush" money (but with "our" tax dollars). Billions of American tax dollars.

Did you agree to this? Who assigned American taxpayers the responsibility for Ukraine? Americans are no more responsible for Ukraine, than we are responsible for the people illegally crossing our southern border. No one is serving American interests. Not the democrats. Not Biden. - And the republicans only make perfunctory noises, objections "for appearance only," resulting in no action.

It's called dismantling the United States through bankruptcy, the World Economic Forum now have the people in Washington they wanted, and they're going to destroy America; it'll be disassembled so quickly, the history books will be unable to keep up.

The sordid history of Volodymyr Zelensky should forewarn us that the g*******t future of a rising Zelensky is a major concern.

Most of us didn’t trust the corporate media’s portrayal of Russiagate or the alleged pee tape that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s operatives to falsely malign Donald Trump. At last half the country laughed when they told us the H****r B***n laptop was Russian disinformation. We were skeptical of the narratives surrounding the after-dark counting of b****ts following the 2020 e******n, as well as the dismissal of mountains of evidence of massive, widespread v***r f***d. We didn’t buy the J****** 6th “i**********n” narrative. We haven’t fallen for P******c Panic Theater, or the endless series of C***d masks, Deathvax and boosters.

Why, then, are so many people buying into the notion that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is some sort of good guy in the Russia-Ukraine fiasco? The answer is found in human nature; we tend to look at things as “A vs B.” If Vladimir Putin is presented to us as the bad guy, then his opposition must be the good guy. Governments and corporate media networks across the globe are playing on this false notion and persuading even lucid patriots into believing that Zelenksy is fighting the good fight.

Zelensky is not a good guy, and while it’s extremely unfortunate that Ukrainian civilians as well as both militaries are inevitably suffering fatalities as a result of the decisions of their two leaders, there is no reason to believe Zelenksy’s actions serve the long term interests of the Ukainian people. Most importantly, there is no upside for American involvement.

When Mitch McConnell mirrors Joe Biden in declaring the Ukraine to be America's first concern, something is wrong!

If NATO becomes further involved militarily in any function, the loss of life will increase exponentially. We cannot save Ukraine through military action without going all-in and declaring war on Russia. Any “major” assistance such as no-fly zones or drone strikes will result in a shooting war with Russia at best, possibly cyberwar, which could be worse, or in the worst possible outcome - nuclear war.

Volodymyr Zelensky has been documented as a puppet of George Soros. He has worked closely over the years with Klaus Schwab, as a graduate of his school of thought, as have Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau. Those two blaring klaxons alone should make everyone question the mainstream narrative that this charismatic and defiant leader in his army green t-shirts is operating from an agenda that will benefit either his people, or the world. He is a pawn who has been set up as a false messiah. There’s only one Messiah, and Zelenksy is not Him.

Invariably many on the right will consider any attack on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as tantamount to declaring one a Putin-apologist or Russian spy. The obligatory disclaimer reads like this:

"I support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, only in their defense of beleaguered Russian speaking people who have been murdered in their homes by the thousands since 2014. I support the Ukrainian people in their plight against tyranny, whether from Ukraine or from Russia. I want the war to end as soon as possible because I do not want Americans or anyone else drawn into this war or harmed any more than has already occurred.”

The number one reason for not trusting Zelensky follows, after first listing the secondary reasons he should not be trusted.

He is a g*******t. Listen to his speech in Davos and the kudos he received for it from Klaus Schwab.
He was propped up by Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky, who had produced the former comedian’s television show in which he auditioned for his present position by playing the President of Ukraine.
He is corrupt, having been one of the world’s elites exposed in the famous Pandora Papers. An article in The Guardian several months before the war exposed his penchant for corruption, including ties with Russian oligarchs.
He was central to the Trump impeachment, but did not lift a finger to debunk the Democrats’ narrative that Trump committed crimes in his "perfect call" with him.
George Soros, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all backed his e******n!!

The biggest reason I am skeptical of Volodymyr Zelensky is that his projected image as a “hero of democracy” is being supported by corporate media, Democrats, and the global powers-that-be. Over the last few years, if nothing else, everyone should have learned to question these sources.

Free West Media tells a very different story about Zelensky and his actions than that which we have been told by corporate media. There is a reason that a concerted effort has been made to universally block Russian media throughout the western world.

Just as no one ever completely trusted Russian media, there has been no reason to completely trust western media. Today, we receive only one side of the story. Hearing both sides enables fair minded people to question everything.

Vladimir Zelensky is gambling with the lives of Ukrainians to save face, His own face: “I don’t see anything heroic about the man. And I think the most heroic thing he can do right now is to come to terms with reality,” Colonel Douglas MacGregor told Fox Business News.

MacGregor said Zelensky was a “puppet” who was putting his people at “unnecessary risk” by d**gging out the conflict with Russia, rather than engaging in peace talks. MacGregor also said he saw nothing “heroic” about the Ukrainian leader.

According to retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Zelensky has pursued the same strategy as ISIS in Syria by using civilians as human shields. “They are now mingling with the population, much as we’ve seen in the Middle East... they ran into cities, used people as shields – the civilian population – in an attempt to avoid being annihilated.”

The Russo-Ukrainian War has been ongoing between Russia and Ukraine since February 2014, when Russia forcibly annexed Crimea, previously a part of Ukraine, but home to a major Russian navy base. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists in the war in Donbas against Ukrainian government forces; Fighting for the first eight years of the conflict also included naval incidents, cyber warfare, and heightened political tensions.

The Donbas region of eastern Ukraine has remained an area of fighting between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian forces ever since the 2014 invasion; according to Ukrainian intelligence, there are an estimated 35,000 Russian separatists in the region, supported by 3,000 Russian soldiers;

MacGregor also underscored that Putin's original intent was not to “flatten” Ukraine into rubble. “Absolutely not. In fact, he [Putin] worked hard to capture most of it intact, with little damage… Much less damage than we inflicted on Iraq when we went in in ’91 and again in 2003.”

“And quite frankly, most of what comes out of Ukraine is debunked as lies within 24 to 48 hours,” according to MacGregor. “The notions of taking and retaking airfields, all of this is nonsense. It hasn’t happened.”

"Zelensky has thus far managed to avoid his presumed “inevitable” defeat, because America has come to his rescue.
President Biden has made it very clear that the U.S. military is not coming,” the Fox guest said, adding that Zelensky is merely a “puppet.” The Ukrainian leader has been spotted in the company of several other World Economic Forum puppets.

The math on this conflict is unclear: Russia has a much larger military, however, U.S. aid to Ukraine eclipses most world military budgets. If Ukraine survives the conflict, it will not be due to the disconnect between Putin’s ideological leadership and his people’s tangible practical needs, as has been claimed, but because the Biden regime has chosen to treat this as a "proxy" war between the U.S. and Russia, and are willing to spend any amount to triumph over Vladimir Putin.
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Zemerich, a lot of good cold hard facts there. Thanks for posting that.

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Dec 28, 2022 14:50:28   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Gatsby wrote:
Personally, I don't give a damn about Putin or Zelensky; I care only for the Ukrainian People,

who are sacrificing their Lives by the thousands, for their Nation and their Freedom. God Help THEM!


At some point you have to realize your being brainwashed.





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Dec 28, 2022 15:02:28   #
Gatsby
 
Weasel wrote:
At some point you have to realize your being brainwashed.


That lies squarely upon Biden's shoulders, and changes nothing.

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