F******l: Yes, It's A Crisis: I wish I had written the following article. The situation with F******l in this country is far worse than most people realize. Failures and Failing Trust...

Smedley_buzkill

I wish I had written the following article. The situation with F******l in this country is far worse than most people realize.

Failures and Failing Trust
ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON
DEC 12

My friend Joe Cunningham sent me this piece. He said it was a must-read. I think he’s right that it probably is the most important story of the day.

We are in a f******l crisis in the country and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die and many millions more will be affected.

If you don’t understand the problem, let me put it very simply from a story I was reading the other day — with cocaine, marijuana, 1990’s methamphetamine, or a lot of other drugs, the addiction does not start the first time. Sure, you are more susceptible to addiction, but you could snort a small bit of cocaine and walk away, assuming you don’t have a heart attack or it is not laced with something.

With the form of meth being brought into the United States now and, especially with f******l, addiction is immediate at consumption. The addiction is so powerful that you will be willing to sell your children for sex, your house, your car, quit your job, live in a gutter, and prostitute yourself for just one more fix. It will eventually k**l you, and you, more likely than not, will ever be rid of the addiction, no matter how hard you fight it.

F******l is so addictive that the United States no longer has a heroin problem. F******l outperforms heroin, with a higher addiction rate and a higher chance of no recovery.

Read that last paragraph again. Seriously.

Now, f******l is being used to lace other drugs to make those drugs more addictive and potent. So the cocaine that you might have once been able to walk away from is now the addictive gateway drug to f******l.

From the Washington Post:

The American f******l crisis deepened during the c****av***s p******c. From 2019 to 2021, fatal overdoses surged 94 percent, and an estimated 196 Americans are now dying each day from the drug — the equivalent of a fully loaded Boeing 757-200 crashing and k*****g everyone on board.

This is not the failure of one p**********l administration. This is the failure of three. The crisis began during the Obama years and is still running. Neither the administrations of Obama, Trump, or Biden could stem the tide.

Yes, it has a lot to do with an insecure border. But that is not the only problem. It has to do with agency turf wars, failures to disseminate information, etc.

When Rome entered the crisis of the third century, the Roman bureaucracy was able to keep the empire going. America might not make it to a third century if we do not fix our bureaucracy.

Reform should be a bipartisan issue, but both sides have entrenched views and lobbyists who don’t want bipartisan reform. Instead, both sides seek concessions to their friends and donors.

President Donald Trump took office just as the f******l epidemic was about to explode. He promised to build a wall along the U.S. southern border that he said would stop drugs. But Mexican traffickers were sneaking f******l right through the front door, hidden in passenger vehicles and commercial trucks passing through official ports of entry in California and Arizona. Today, the partisan border debate in Washington remains fixated on a physical structure that is virtually useless for stopping the deadliest drug U.S. agents have ever faced.

Since President Biden took office, his administration has amplified a public messaging campaign to warn about f******l’s mortal threat — “One Pill Can K**l.” He has stepped up efforts to improve scanning technology at border crossings and repair a broken counternarcotics partnership with Mexico. But with Republicans blaming Biden’s border policies for record numbers of immigration arrests, the president and many of his top officials have said little about the skyrocketing amount of f******l entering the country.

Our government is failing us. The failure is both bipartisan and bureaucratic. This is just one of the issues.

We’ve seen C***D policy failures at the state and federal levels. We’re seeing an entirely new social contagion sweep through public health systems whereby they embrace and encourage children to commit g*****l m********n. We’ve seen a collapse of our public education system.

Some of them are failures of progressivism. But a common thread runs through — our bureaucrats are failing. The nonpartisans have become partisan. The open has become closed. The agencies have become fiefdoms unwilling to share and collaborate. That last is not a new problem, but it is worse today.

A president should not need a new czar to make Washington work. It should be done because it is the right and good thing to do. But something must happen and some one or some group must be empowered to stop the spread of f******l into the United States.

For all the other problems from which progressives and conservatives can be divided, there should be no division here. The flow must be stopped. The tide must be made to recede.

This is a crisis, and leaders across the aisle need to rise to the occasion.

pegw

Biden has very little to do with the f******l crisis. It was in full swing by the time he became vice president. It is smuggled into the US by the cartels, usually across legal border crossings, not through immigrants crossing the border. I don't belive f******l is more or less adictive than opiates. It is unlikely that it is adictive after just once time that you have had it. I was given f******l twice in my life, in a hospital setting, and although it was really pleasant, I never got addicted, nor did I have any cravings. The real problem with f******l is that it is so concentrated. A grain of salt sized dose can k**l you. So a sandwich sized baggie full of f******l can be a life time supply.
My point is can't we stop this at the point of manufacture? The drug companies re selling it to the cartels

American Vet

pegw wrote:

Biden has very little to do with the f******l crisis. It was in full swing by the time he became vice president. It is smuggled into the US by the cartels, usually across legal border crossings, not through immigrants crossing the border.

Total BS: FJB could shut down the border - that would go a long way to solve several of the problems immediately.

I don't belive f******l is more or less adictive than opiates. It is unlikely that it is adictive after just once time that you have had it. I was given f******l twice in my life, in a hospital setting, and although it was really pleasant, I never got addicted, nor did I have any cravings. The real problem with f******l is that it is so concentrated. A grain of salt sized dose can k**l you. So a sandwich sized baggie full of f******l can be a life time supply.
My point is can't we stop this at the point of manufacture? The drug companies re selling it to the cartels

Again total BS: The cartels make their own.

Big Bass

pegw wrote:

Biden has very little to do with the f******l cris... (show quote)

Why don’t you swallow a handful of f******l and find out just how addictive this stuff is?

Big Bass

American Vet wrote:

i Biden has very little to do with the f******l c... (show quote)

The drug companies don’t manufacture the drug, the Chinese do.

American Vet

Big Bass wrote:

The drug companies don’t manufacture the drug, the Chinese do.

Both - the Chinese do and the cartels have their own 'farms' in Mexico, etc.....

Big Bass

American Vet wrote:

Both - the Chinese do and the cartels have their own 'farms' in Mexico, etc.....

It must be relatively easy to make.

American Vet

Big Bass wrote:

It must be relatively easy to make.

Most drugs can be made 'at home' - some fairly easily. Many places have problems with 'meth labs'.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

I wish I had written the following article. The situation with F******l in this country is far worse than most people realize.

Failures and Failing Trust
ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON
DEC 12

My friend Joe Cunningham sent me this piece. He said it was a must-read. I think he’s right that it probably is the most important story of the day.

We are in a f******l crisis in the country and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die and many millions more will be affected.

If you don’t understand the problem, let me put it very simply from a story I was reading the other day — with cocaine, marijuana, 1990’s methamphetamine, or a lot of other drugs, the addiction does not start the first time. Sure, you are more susceptible to addiction, but you could snort a small bit of cocaine and walk away, assuming you don’t have a heart attack or it is not laced with something.

With the form of meth being brought into the United States now and, especially with f******l, addiction is immediate at consumption. The addiction is so powerful that you will be willing to sell your children for sex, your house, your car, quit your job, live in a gutter, and prostitute yourself for just one more fix. It will eventually k**l you, and you, more likely than not, will ever be rid of the addiction, no matter how hard you fight it.

F******l is so addictive that the United States no longer has a heroin problem. F******l outperforms heroin, with a higher addiction rate and a higher chance of no recovery.

Read that last paragraph again. Seriously.

Now, f******l is being used to lace other drugs to make those drugs more addictive and potent. So the cocaine that you might have once been able to walk away from is now the addictive gateway drug to f******l.

From the Washington Post:

The American f******l crisis deepened during the c****av***s p******c. From 2019 to 2021, fatal overdoses surged 94 percent, and an estimated 196 Americans are now dying each day from the drug — the equivalent of a fully loaded Boeing 757-200 crashing and k*****g everyone on board.

This is not the failure of one p**********l administration. This is the failure of three. The crisis began during the Obama years and is still running. Neither the administrations of Obama, Trump, or Biden could stem the tide.

Yes, it has a lot to do with an insecure border. But that is not the only problem. It has to do with agency turf wars, failures to disseminate information, etc.

When Rome entered the crisis of the third century, the Roman bureaucracy was able to keep the empire going. America might not make it to a third century if we do not fix our bureaucracy.

Reform should be a bipartisan issue, but both sides have entrenched views and lobbyists who don’t want bipartisan reform. Instead, both sides seek concessions to their friends and donors.

President Donald Trump took office just as the f******l epidemic was about to explode. He promised to build a wall along the U.S. southern border that he said would stop drugs. But Mexican traffickers were sneaking f******l right through the front door, hidden in passenger vehicles and commercial trucks passing through official ports of entry in California and Arizona. Today, the partisan border debate in Washington remains fixated on a physical structure that is virtually useless for stopping the deadliest drug U.S. agents have ever faced.

Since President Biden took office, his administration has amplified a public messaging campaign to warn about f******l’s mortal threat — “One Pill Can K**l.” He has stepped up efforts to improve scanning technology at border crossings and repair a broken counternarcotics partnership with Mexico. But with Republicans blaming Biden’s border policies for record numbers of immigration arrests, the president and many of his top officials have said little about the skyrocketing amount of f******l entering the country.

Our government is failing us. The failure is both bipartisan and bureaucratic. This is just one of the issues.

We’ve seen C***D policy failures at the state and federal levels. We’re seeing an entirely new social contagion sweep through public health systems whereby they embrace and encourage children to commit g*****l m********n. We’ve seen a collapse of our public education system.

Some of them are failures of progressivism. But a common thread runs through — our bureaucrats are failing. The nonpartisans have become partisan. The open has become closed. The agencies have become fiefdoms unwilling to share and collaborate. That last is not a new problem, but it is worse today.

A president should not need a new czar to make Washington work. It should be done because it is the right and good thing to do. But something must happen and some one or some group must be empowered to stop the spread of f******l into the United States.

For all the other problems from which progressives and conservatives can be divided, there should be no division here. The flow must be stopped. The tide must be made to recede.

This is a crisis, and leaders across the aisle need to rise to the occasion.

I wish I had written the following article. The si... (show quote)

Do what Singapore, China, Japan, or other Asian nations do and crack down on dealers AND users...

Or go the Philippine route

Big dog

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

I wish I had written the following article. The situation with F******l in this country is far worse than most people realize.

Failures and Failing Trust
ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON
DEC 12

My friend Joe Cunningham sent me this piece. He said it was a must-read. I think he’s right that it probably is the most important story of the day.

We are in a f******l crisis in the country and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die and many millions more will be affected.

If you don’t understand the problem, let me put it very simply from a story I was reading the other day — with cocaine, marijuana, 1990’s methamphetamine, or a lot of other drugs, the addiction does not start the first time. Sure, you are more susceptible to addiction, but you could snort a small bit of cocaine and walk away, assuming you don’t have a heart attack or it is not laced with something.

With the form of meth being brought into the United States now and, especially with f******l, addiction is immediate at consumption. The addiction is so powerful that you will be willing to sell your children for sex, your house, your car, quit your job, live in a gutter, and prostitute yourself for just one more fix. It will eventually k**l you, and you, more likely than not, will ever be rid of the addiction, no matter how hard you fight it.

F******l is so addictive that the United States no longer has a heroin problem. F******l outperforms heroin, with a higher addiction rate and a higher chance of no recovery.

Read that last paragraph again. Seriously.

Now, f******l is being used to lace other drugs to make those drugs more addictive and potent. So the cocaine that you might have once been able to walk away from is now the addictive gateway drug to f******l.

From the Washington Post:

The American f******l crisis deepened during the c****av***s p******c. From 2019 to 2021, fatal overdoses surged 94 percent, and an estimated 196 Americans are now dying each day from the drug — the equivalent of a fully loaded Boeing 757-200 crashing and k*****g everyone on board.

This is not the failure of one p**********l administration. This is the failure of three. The crisis began during the Obama years and is still running. Neither the administrations of Obama, Trump, or Biden could stem the tide.

Yes, it has a lot to do with an insecure border. But that is not the only problem. It has to do with agency turf wars, failures to disseminate information, etc.

When Rome entered the crisis of the third century, the Roman bureaucracy was able to keep the empire going. America might not make it to a third century if we do not fix our bureaucracy.

Reform should be a bipartisan issue, but both sides have entrenched views and lobbyists who don’t want bipartisan reform. Instead, both sides seek concessions to their friends and donors.

President Donald Trump took office just as the f******l epidemic was about to explode. He promised to build a wall along the U.S. southern border that he said would stop drugs. But Mexican traffickers were sneaking f******l right through the front door, hidden in passenger vehicles and commercial trucks passing through official ports of entry in California and Arizona. Today, the partisan border debate in Washington remains fixated on a physical structure that is virtually useless for stopping the deadliest drug U.S. agents have ever faced.

Since President Biden took office, his administration has amplified a public messaging campaign to warn about f******l’s mortal threat — “One Pill Can K**l.” He has stepped up efforts to improve scanning technology at border crossings and repair a broken counternarcotics partnership with Mexico. But with Republicans blaming Biden’s border policies for record numbers of immigration arrests, the president and many of his top officials have said little about the skyrocketing amount of f******l entering the country.

Our government is failing us. The failure is both bipartisan and bureaucratic. This is just one of the issues.

We’ve seen C***D policy failures at the state and federal levels. We’re seeing an entirely new social contagion sweep through public health systems whereby they embrace and encourage children to commit g*****l m********n. We’ve seen a collapse of our public education system.

Some of them are failures of progressivism. But a common thread runs through — our bureaucrats are failing. The nonpartisans have become partisan. The open has become closed. The agencies have become fiefdoms unwilling to share and collaborate. That last is not a new problem, but it is worse today.

A president should not need a new czar to make Washington work. It should be done because it is the right and good thing to do. But something must happen and some one or some group must be empowered to stop the spread of f******l into the United States.

For all the other problems from which progressives and conservatives can be divided, there should be no division here. The flow must be stopped. The tide must be made to recede.

This is a crisis, and leaders across the aisle need to rise to the occasion.

I wish I had written the following article. The si... (show quote)

I’ll say it again; f******l is a chemical warfare agent and the United States is under attack! The Chinese are supplying it to the Mexican cartels and the cartels are spreading it north through the open border!
It’s an attack that could be stopped, if we had a serious POTUS that would be willing to send our troops into Mexico and force a change to our south, for as far south as necessary!!

MidnightRider

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

I wish I had written the following article. The situation with F******l in this country is far worse than most people realize.

Failures and Failing Trust
ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON
DEC 12

My friend Joe Cunningham sent me this piece. He said it was a must-read. I think he’s right that it probably is the most important story of the day.

We are in a f******l crisis in the country and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die and many millions more will be affected.

If you don’t understand the problem, let me put it very simply from a story I was reading the other day — with cocaine, marijuana, 1990’s methamphetamine, or a lot of other drugs, the addiction does not start the first time. Sure, you are more susceptible to addiction, but you could snort a small bit of cocaine and walk away, assuming you don’t have a heart attack or it is not laced with something.

With the form of meth being brought into the United States now and, especially with f******l, addiction is immediate at consumption. The addiction is so powerful that you will be willing to sell your children for sex, your house, your car, quit your job, live in a gutter, and prostitute yourself for just one more fix. It will eventually k**l you, and you, more likely than not, will ever be rid of the addiction, no matter how hard you fight it.

F******l is so addictive that the United States no longer has a heroin problem. F******l outperforms heroin, with a higher addiction rate and a higher chance of no recovery.

Read that last paragraph again. Seriously.

Now, f******l is being used to lace other drugs to make those drugs more addictive and potent. So the cocaine that you might have once been able to walk away from is now the addictive gateway drug to f******l.

From the Washington Post:

The American f******l crisis deepened during the c****av***s p******c. From 2019 to 2021, fatal overdoses surged 94 percent, and an estimated 196 Americans are now dying each day from the drug — the equivalent of a fully loaded Boeing 757-200 crashing and k*****g everyone on board.

This is not the failure of one p**********l administration. This is the failure of three. The crisis began during the Obama years and is still running. Neither the administrations of Obama, Trump, or Biden could stem the tide.

Yes, it has a lot to do with an insecure border. But that is not the only problem. It has to do with agency turf wars, failures to disseminate information, etc.

When Rome entered the crisis of the third century, the Roman bureaucracy was able to keep the empire going. America might not make it to a third century if we do not fix our bureaucracy.

Reform should be a bipartisan issue, but both sides have entrenched views and lobbyists who don’t want bipartisan reform. Instead, both sides seek concessions to their friends and donors.

President Donald Trump took office just as the f******l epidemic was about to explode. He promised to build a wall along the U.S. southern border that he said would stop drugs. But Mexican traffickers were sneaking f******l right through the front door, hidden in passenger vehicles and commercial trucks passing through official ports of entry in California and Arizona. Today, the partisan border debate in Washington remains fixated on a physical structure that is virtually useless for stopping the deadliest drug U.S. agents have ever faced.

Since President Biden took office, his administration has amplified a public messaging campaign to warn about f******l’s mortal threat — “One Pill Can K**l.” He has stepped up efforts to improve scanning technology at border crossings and repair a broken counternarcotics partnership with Mexico. But with Republicans blaming Biden’s border policies for record numbers of immigration arrests, the president and many of his top officials have said little about the skyrocketing amount of f******l entering the country.

Our government is failing us. The failure is both bipartisan and bureaucratic. This is just one of the issues.

We’ve seen C***D policy failures at the state and federal levels. We’re seeing an entirely new social contagion sweep through public health systems whereby they embrace and encourage children to commit g*****l m********n. We’ve seen a collapse of our public education system.

Some of them are failures of progressivism. But a common thread runs through — our bureaucrats are failing. The nonpartisans have become partisan. The open has become closed. The agencies have become fiefdoms unwilling to share and collaborate. That last is not a new problem, but it is worse today.

A president should not need a new czar to make Washington work. It should be done because it is the right and good thing to do. But something must happen and some one or some group must be empowered to stop the spread of f******l into the United States.

For all the other problems from which progressives and conservatives can be divided, there should be no division here. The flow must be stopped. The tide must be made to recede.

This is a crisis, and leaders across the aisle need to rise to the occasion.

I wish I had written the following article. The si... (show quote)

Hell, f******l was coming in 'great guns' as they say, under GW. So go back further.

Smedley_buzkill

MidnightRider wrote:

Hell, f******l was coming in 'great guns' as they say, under GW. So go back further.

F******l was invented in 1959. It did not start becoming a problem until about 2010. It has exploded during the Senile S**tweasel's administration.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10890

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/f******l-seizures-border-continue-spike-making-san-diego-national-epicenter-f******l